TB: How to reduce header info shown?

Chuck in MI

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Mar 19, 2010, 2:56:53 PM3/19/10

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I have TB 3.0.1 on Win XP. When I view a message in a newsgroup, the
header information is kind of tall. I am showing "normal" headers,
not "All" under the View menu.

How do I reduce the headers shown in this area of the message? I
just want to show From and Date.

I'd like to get rid of the buttons Reply, Forward, Archive, Delete
if possible too.

Thanks.

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Paul Mueller

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Mar 19, 2010, 3:51:10 PM3/19/10

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Chuck in MI wrote:

> How do I reduce the headers shown in this area of the message? I
> just want to show From and Date.

CompactHeader:
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/13564

> I'd like to get rid of the buttons Reply, Forward, Archive, Delete
> if possible too.

userChrome.css :

#header-view-toolbox,
#otherActionsBox {
display: none !important;
}

HTH
Paul

Ron Hunter

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Mar 19, 2010, 4:46:59 PM3/19/10

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Chuck in MI wrote:
> I have TB 3.0.1 on Win XP. When I view a message in a newsgroup, the
> header information is kind of tall. I am showing "normal" headers, not
> "All" under the View menu.
>
> How do I reduce the headers shown in this area of the message? I just
> want to show From and Date.
>
> I'd like to get rid of the buttons Reply, Forward, Archive, Delete if
> possible too.
>
> Thanks.
>

Find the extension Compact Headers. BTW, upgrade to 3.0.3 too.

Ken Whiton

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Mar 21, 2010, 3:55:08 AM3/21/10

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*-* On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, at 20:51:10 +0100,
*-* In Article <qIGdnU4Ysd4tSD7W...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Paul Mueller wrote
*-* About Re: TB: How to reduce header info shown?

> Chuck in MI wrote:
>
>> How do I reduce the headers shown in this area of the message? I
>> just want to show From and Date.
>
> CompactHeader:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/13564

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/13564

for the English language version.

>> I'd like to get rid of the buttons Reply, Forward, Archive, Delete
>> if possible too.
>
> userChrome.css :
>
> #header-view-toolbox,
> #otherActionsBox {
> display: none !important;
> }

That's part of what the CompactHeader extension can do. If
you're going to install the extension there's no need for the
userChrome.css entry.

Ken Whiton
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Herb

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Apr 13, 2010, 7:15:12 AM4/13/10

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I installed CompactHeader but I can't see an option to get rid of the
buttons - am I missing something?

Also, is there an option to get the date back where I feel it belongs,
i.e. on the left with the other header info, rather than being stuck on
the far right?

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www.HETranslation.co.uk

Ron Hunter

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Apr 13, 2010, 9:39:49 AM4/13/10

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The options for CompactHeader list '1 line header', and that will get
rid of the buttons.

Herb

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Apr 13, 2010, 11:31:41 AM4/13/10

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Thanks for the clarification.

I quite like the 2-line display though, and come to think of it the
buttons aren't really in the way, but I would really like to shift the
date back to the left - is it possible?

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Ken Whiton

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Apr 13, 2010, 1:51:56 PM4/13/10

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*-* On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, at 12:15:12 +0100,
*-* In Article <DLidnYVy64zcz1nW...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Herb wrote

*-* About Re: TB: How to reduce header info shown?

> On 21.03.2010 07:55 UK Time, Ken Whiton wrote:
>> *-* Paul Mueller wrote

>
>>> Chuck in MI wrote:
>
>>>> How do I reduce the headers shown in this area of the message? I
>>>> just want to show From and Date.
>
>>> CompactHeader:
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/13564
>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/13564
>>
>> for the English language version.
>
>>>> I'd like to get rid of the buttons Reply, Forward, Archive,
>>>> Delete if possible too.
>
>>> userChrome.css :
>>>
>>> #header-view-toolbox,
>>> #otherActionsBox {
>>> display: none !important;
>>> }
>
>> That's part of what the CompactHeader extension can do. If
>> you're going to install the extension there's no need for the
>> userChrome.css entry.
>

> I installed CompactHeader but I can't see an option to get rid of
> the buttons - am I missing something?

From the addons page I previously linked:

<quote>
A customization dialog can be opened for the toolbar in the header
pane (right mouse button context menu) to change the displayed buttons
and their style.
</quote>

> Also, is there an option to get the date back where I feel it
> belongs, i.e. on the left with the other header info, rather than
> being stuck on the far right?

In all the discussions of this extension I don't remember seeing
any discussion of that, so I would doubt it, but I don't know for sure.

Herb

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Apr 13, 2010, 2:49:58 PM4/13/10

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Thanks for your further reply - I didn't realise the buttons can be
dragged off the header pane into the customize window.

I got rid of them now which makes the header pane less cluttered, and it
also makes the date stand out more.

I would still like to see the date further to the left, but if it isn't
possible I dare say I'll learn to live with it stuck on the right.

Perhaps it's possible to show the date in bold font?

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Ron Hunter

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Apr 13, 2010, 5:07:11 PM4/13/10

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I don't think so, at the moment, but you might email the extension
author and 'put a bug in his ear'.

Timo Pietilä

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Apr 13, 2010, 5:26:37 PM4/13/10

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Paul Mueller wrote:
> Chuck in MI wrote:
>
>> How do I reduce the headers shown in this area of the message? I
>> just want to show From and Date.

>> I'd like to get rid of the buttons Reply, Forward, Archive, Delete

>> if possible too.
>
> userChrome.css :
>
> #header-view-toolbox,
> #otherActionsBox {
> display: none !important;
> }

X-posted to dev, and Followup to there too.

If getting rid of those extra non-needed buttons is that easy, then
_PLEASE_ make it so that when users selects old toolbar that change is
also made.

Also if it is possible restore ability to collapse that header section.
With or without those buttons.

It really bugs me that this for this simple task that is feature of TB2
I would need an add-on in TB3. That is going backwards in development.

Timo Pietilä

Ron K.

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Apr 13, 2010, 5:30:08 PM4/13/10

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Herb on 4/13/2010 2:49 PM, keyboarded a reply:

> Thanks for your further reply - I didn't realize the buttons can be

> dragged off the header pane into the customize window.
>
> I got rid of them now which makes the header pane less cluttered, and it
> also makes the date stand out more.
>
> I would still like to see the date further to the left, but if it isn't
> possible I dare say I'll learn to live with it stuck on the right.
>
> Perhaps it's possible to show the date in bold font?
>

My understanding from when the XUL for the header pane was written, is that
there is a right aligned box that houses the date, Button Bar, and Digital
Signing icons. It may be possible for the extension author to write a new
XUL overlay that could move the date field. Generaly the designers of the
heaqdr pane were worried they would not have enough horizontal space to
display long strings of addresses or other extented content fields.

Personally I don't like the date positioning either. I'ts not so bad in
3-pane view, but those using a new window lose the thread pane context.

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Herb

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Apr 14, 2010, 1:34:21 AM4/14/10

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Thanks, will do.

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Herb

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Apr 14, 2010, 1:35:42 AM4/14/10

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Thanks for the info.

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Ken Whiton

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Apr 14, 2010, 4:10:46 AM4/14/10

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*-* On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, at 19:49:58 +0100,
*-* In Article <HfGdnWoQrNlKIVnW...@mozilla.org>,

*-* Herb wrote
*-* About Re: TB: How to reduce header info shown?

> On 13.04.2010 18:51 UK Time, Ken Whiton wrote:
>> *-* Herb wrote

[ ... ]

>>> I installed CompactHeader but I can't see an option to get rid of
>>> the buttons - am I missing something?
>
>> From the addons page I previously linked:
>>
>> <quote>
>> A customization dialog can be opened for the toolbar in the header
>> pane (right mouse button context menu) to change the displayed
>> buttons and their style.
>> </quote>
>
>>> Also, is there an option to get the date back where I feel it
>>> belongs, i.e. on the left with the other header info, rather than
>>> being stuck on the far right?
>
>> In all the discussions of this extension I don't remember
>> seeing any discussion of that, so I would doubt it, but I don't
>> know for sure.
>

> Thanks for your further reply - I didn't realise the buttons can be
> dragged off the header pane into the customize window.
>
> I got rid of them now which makes the header pane less cluttered,
> and it also makes the date stand out more.
>
> I would still like to see the date further to the left, but if it
> isn't possible I dare say I'll learn to live with it stuck on the
> right.
>
> Perhaps it's possible to show the date in bold font?

It can probably be done with a userChrome.css entry, but I don't
know the identifier name(s) involved. Would you settle for
highlighting the date with a colored background? I can give you css
code for that. Caveat: with all the changes to the header area in TB3
I don't know if the code will work, and since I don't use TB3 I can't
test it. The code works in earlier versions, however.

Paul Mueller

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Apr 16, 2010, 8:17:53 AM4/16/10

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Herb wrote

> Perhaps it's possible to show the date in bold font?

Yes it is. The following code works for me [1]

With CompactHeader installed:

#collapsed1LdateBox,
#collapsed2LdateBox,
#dateLabel {
font-weight: bold !important;
}

Without CompactHeader installed:

#dateLabel {
font-weight: bold !important;
}

[1] Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; de; rv:1.9.1.9)
Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.4

Paul

John Doue

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Apr 16, 2010, 9:20:35 AM4/16/10

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Works for me too, with Compact Header. Thanks

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G. R. Woodring

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Apr 17, 2010, 8:10:23 PM4/17/10

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I made a small change and it works! This isn't quite the same as moving
the date all the way to the left but it does get it off the right margin.

/* Set Date display to bold and move left */
#dateLabel {
font-weight: bold !important;
padding-right: 110px !important;
}

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Herb

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Apr 19, 2010, 2:45:53 AM4/19/10

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Thanks to Paul and G.R. for your replies.

Sorry about this basic question, but can you remind me where to put this
code - is it userChrome.css ?

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Paul Mueller

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Apr 19, 2010, 10:59:07 AM4/19/10

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Herb wrote:

Yes, userChrome.css is the correct place.

Paul

Herb

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Apr 20, 2010, 3:05:39 AM4/20/10

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Splendid, it works, thank you 8-)

G.R.'s padding-right instruction also works, thank you.

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