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Brian K
Jun 27, 2014, 9:47:13 PM6/27/14
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Is there an about:config for Thunderbird and how do I access it? I want
to hard code the Character Encoding to Unicode (UTF-8) utilizing a
User_Pref. Why? No matter how many times I go into Options > Display >
select Unicode then click *Advanced* and untick "allow messages to use
other fonts" and select Unicode (UTF-8) for both Incoming and Outgoing Mail.
When I open a new message it is encoded as Western (ISO-8859-15). That
Character Encoding produces the wrong characters for certain things like
quotes and other characters as what appears instead are characters with
diacritical marks that aren't even the right letters of the alphabet for
the words.
So I want a way to hard code Unicode (UTF-8), especially for incoming mail.
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Brian M. Kochera ABCDT
Certified Dog Trainer and Behavioral Consultant
Sit Stay And Beyond LLC
Dog Manners Not Mayhem
"The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the
foremost to defend" - Lord Byron
____
To contact me about dog training e-mail me: Sit.Sta...@gmail.com
to hard code the Character Encoding to Unicode (UTF-8) utilizing a
User_Pref. Why? No matter how many times I go into Options > Display >
select Unicode then click *Advanced* and untick "allow messages to use
other fonts" and select Unicode (UTF-8) for both Incoming and Outgoing Mail.
When I open a new message it is encoded as Western (ISO-8859-15). That
Character Encoding produces the wrong characters for certain things like
quotes and other characters as what appears instead are characters with
diacritical marks that aren't even the right letters of the alphabet for
the words.
So I want a way to hard code Unicode (UTF-8), especially for incoming mail.
--
____
Brian M. Kochera ABCDT
Certified Dog Trainer and Behavioral Consultant
Sit Stay And Beyond LLC
Dog Manners Not Mayhem
"The poor dog is the firmest of friends, the first to welcome the
foremost to defend" - Lord Byron
____
To contact me about dog training e-mail me: Sit.Sta...@gmail.com
Good Guy
Jun 27, 2014, 10:08:07 PM6/27/14
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On 28/06/2014 02:47, Brian K wrote:
> Is there an about:config for Thunderbird and how do I access it? I
> want to hard code the Character Encoding to Unicode (UTF-8) utilizing
> a User_Pref. Why? No matter how many times I go into Options > Display
> > select Unicode then click *Advanced* and untick "allow messages to
> use other fonts" and select Unicode (UTF-8) for both Incoming and
> Outgoing Mail.
>
> When I open a new message it is encoded as Western (ISO-8859-15). That
> Character Encoding produces the wrong characters for certain things
> like quotes and other characters as what appears instead are
> characters with diacritical marks that aren't even the right letters
> of the alphabet for the words.
>
> So I want a way to hard code Unicode (UTF-8), especially for incoming
> mail.
Tools >> Options >> Advanced >> General >> Config Editor
> Is there an about:config for Thunderbird and how do I access it? I
> want to hard code the Character Encoding to Unicode (UTF-8) utilizing
> a User_Pref. Why? No matter how many times I go into Options > Display
> > select Unicode then click *Advanced* and untick "allow messages to
> use other fonts" and select Unicode (UTF-8) for both Incoming and
> Outgoing Mail.
>
> When I open a new message it is encoded as Western (ISO-8859-15). That
> Character Encoding produces the wrong characters for certain things
> like quotes and other characters as what appears instead are
> characters with diacritical marks that aren't even the right letters
> of the alphabet for the words.
>
> So I want a way to hard code Unicode (UTF-8), especially for incoming
> mail.
See this picture:
<http://content.screencast.com/users/JT19560819/folders/Jing/media/8e970eb3-61bd-40de-9a25-f46f12dc6372/2014-06-28_0305.png>
Good luck.
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Good Guy
Jun 27, 2014, 10:19:40 PM6/27/14
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On 28/06/2014 02:47, Brian K wrote:
> Is there an about:config for
Thunderbird and how do I access it? I
> want to hard code the Character Encoding to Unicode (UTF-8) utilizing
> a User_Pref. Why? No matter how many times I go into Options >
> Display > select Unicode then click *Advanced* and untick "allow
> messages to use other fonts" and select Unicode (UTF-8) for both
> Incoming and Outgoing Mail.
>
> When I open a new message it is encoded as Western (ISO-8859-15).
> That Character Encoding produces the wrong characters for certain
> things like quotes and other characters as what appears instead are
> characters with diacritical marks that aren't even the right letters
> of the alphabet for the words.
>
> So I want a way to hard code Unicode (UTF-8), especially for incoming
> mail.
> want to hard code the Character Encoding to Unicode (UTF-8) utilizing
> a User_Pref. Why? No matter how many times I go into Options >
> Display > select Unicode then click *Advanced* and untick "allow
> messages to use other fonts" and select Unicode (UTF-8) for both
> Incoming and Outgoing Mail.
>
> When I open a new message it is encoded as Western (ISO-8859-15).
> That Character Encoding produces the wrong characters for certain
> things like quotes and other characters as what appears instead are
> characters with diacritical marks that aren't even the right letters
> of the alphabet for the words.
>
> So I want a way to hard code Unicode (UTF-8), especially for incoming
> mail.
I don't think you can hard code incoming emails because those emails
must have been hard coded using some other Character Encoding. I
don't think many people know how to encode their outgoing emails and
so they use defaults which is not nUTF-8. This email, which I am
sending is UTF-8 but it might not come out right if Mozilla servers
strips out my html.
VanguardLH
Jun 27, 2014, 10:47:06 PM6/27/14
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Brian K wrote:
> Is there an about:config for Thunderbird and how do I access it?
Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> General tab
> Is there an about:config for Thunderbird and how do I access it?
"Config Editor" button
Roger Fink
Jun 30, 2014, 3:33:43 PM6/30/14
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-------- Original Message --------
> Is there an about:config for Thunderbird and how do I access it? I want
> to hard code the Character Encoding to Unicode (UTF-8) utilizing a
> User_Pref. Why? No matter how many times I go into Options > Display >
> select Unicode then click *Advanced* and untick "allow messages to use
> other fonts" and select Unicode (UTF-8) for both Incoming and Outgoing Mail.
>
> When I open a new message it is encoded as Western (ISO-8859-15). That
> Character Encoding produces the wrong characters for certain things like
> quotes and other characters as what appears instead are characters with
> diacritical marks that aren't even the right letters of the alphabet for
> the words.
>
> So I want a way to hard code Unicode (UTF-8), especially for incoming mail.
>
both "character" and "encoding" produced next to nothing, and what
little there was had nothing to do with changing the default encoding.
EE
Jun 30, 2014, 4:07:51 PM6/30/14
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> General > Config Editor.
Roger Fink
Jun 30, 2014, 5:00:30 PM6/30/14
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Good Guy
Jun 30, 2014, 5:21:36 PM6/30/14
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On 30/06/2014 22:00, Roger Fink wrote:
>
>
> I should have been clearer. The search I did was from within
> about:config.
Does this old document help:
>
>
> I should have been clearer. The search I did was from within
> about:config.
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/configuration-options-character-encoding>
Good luck.
Good Guy
Jun 30, 2014, 5:25:39 PM6/30/14
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On 30/06/2014 22:00, Roger Fink wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I should have been clearer. The search I did was from within
> about:config.
I think you need this:
> about:config.
<http://content.screencast.com/users/JT19560819/folders/Jing/media/3f12a6f0-e48a-4e43-945c-62dd192802da/2014-06-30_2224.png>
Mike Easter
Jun 30, 2014, 5:36:48 PM6/30/14
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Roger Fink wrote:
> I tried to do the same thing to solve the same problem but a search of
> both "character" and "encoding" produced next to nothing, and what
> little there was had nothing to do with changing the default encoding.
I actually don't understand/get what problem you are trying to describe.
> I tried to do the same thing to solve the same problem but a search of
> both "character" and "encoding" produced next to nothing, and what
> little there was had nothing to do with changing the default encoding.
The settings in about:config are at various places; search on the string
charset.
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Mike Easter
Roger Fink
Jun 30, 2014, 5:50:34 PM6/30/14
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Roger Fink
Jun 30, 2014, 5:57:11 PM6/30/14
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Knowing that UTF-8 is set in Options as the default, when viewing some
messages the character encoding selection part of the drop down menu
will say ISO-8859-1. You can of course switch it to UTF-8, and when you
do that the problem goes away. But next time you look at the message the
selectable encoding will be ISO-8859-1.
VanguardLH
Jun 30, 2014, 6:33:41 PM6/30/14
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Roger Fink wrote:
<fixed Roger's screwup for an absent attribution line to Easter>
The OP left dangling the incomplete sentence:
"No matter how many times I <changed options>."
Then you claimed ditto. So did you yet search on "charset" (instead of
"character" and "encoding")?
<fixed Roger's screwup for an absent attribution line to Easter>
"No matter how many times I <changed options>."
Then you claimed ditto. So did you yet search on "charset" (instead of
"character" and "encoding")?
VanguardLH
Jun 30, 2014, 6:38:59 PM6/30/14
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those settings because I don't need the same setup as the OP.
VanguardLH
Jun 30, 2014, 6:41:35 PM6/30/14
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but also gives some help text.
Mike Easter
Jun 30, 2014, 6:49:26 PM6/30/14
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VanguardLH wrote:
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries lists the config entries
> but also gives some help text.
... and a MailNews set here
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries lists the config entries
> but also gives some help text.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_and_news_settings
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Mike Easter
VanguardLH
Jul 1, 2014, 12:22:14 PM7/1/14
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I'm wondering if what these users are asking about is the "View ->
Character Encoding" menu.
I've selected an e-mail that was encoded as:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
for the plain-text MIME part and:
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
for the HTML MIME part.
In the body, the poster used the upper ASCII "1/2" character. With my
current view of "Western (ISO-8859-1)", it is one character. When I
switch to UTF-8 view, it becomes a diamond-shaped character with black
fill and white text of "?". So it appears that Tbird using a view that
matches the encoding in the message is better than trying to force a
different encoding.
Despite setting UTF-8 for the fonts along with the character encodings
for outgoing and incoming mail (Tools -> Options -> Display ->
Formatting tab -> Advanced), my *view* was still set to "Western
(ISO-8859-1)". Switching the *view* to UTF-8 didn't help and actually
made the display worse for some characters in that e-mail.
Then I switched to viewing an e-mail that had (in the headers):
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
View -> Character Encoding was already set to UTF-8. So it looks like
Thunderbird is automatically switching the encoding in the view based on
what encoding was specified in the message which makes sense. Although
the encoding in the view seems to be automatically selected by Tbird,
View -> Character Encoding -> Auto-Detect is always "off". Go figure.
I found an e-mail with:
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Windows-1252"
and the default selected under View -> Character Encoding was, yep,
Windows-1252. I did finally find an e-mail that specified an encoding
that was not selected under View -> Character Encoding. The email had:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
but View -> Character Encoding had selected "Western (ISO-1859-1)". The
e-mail didn't look any different when I selected US-ASCII for view
encoding mode so maybe Tbird figures one is a superset of the other.
Note that I configured Tbird to use the Simple HTML view. It wasn't so
much for safety as Tbird can sometimes get damn slow if Original HTML
mode is used. I don't think that view mode affects what encoding Tbird
shows and instead Tbird is complying with the encoding specified in the
message (or maybe falling back to an encoding specified in the fallback
settings you find in the config editor).
Character Encoding" menu.
I've selected an e-mail that was encoded as:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
for the plain-text MIME part and:
Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
for the HTML MIME part.
In the body, the poster used the upper ASCII "1/2" character. With my
current view of "Western (ISO-8859-1)", it is one character. When I
switch to UTF-8 view, it becomes a diamond-shaped character with black
fill and white text of "?". So it appears that Tbird using a view that
matches the encoding in the message is better than trying to force a
different encoding.
Despite setting UTF-8 for the fonts along with the character encodings
for outgoing and incoming mail (Tools -> Options -> Display ->
Formatting tab -> Advanced), my *view* was still set to "Western
(ISO-8859-1)". Switching the *view* to UTF-8 didn't help and actually
made the display worse for some characters in that e-mail.
Then I switched to viewing an e-mail that had (in the headers):
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
View -> Character Encoding was already set to UTF-8. So it looks like
Thunderbird is automatically switching the encoding in the view based on
what encoding was specified in the message which makes sense. Although
the encoding in the view seems to be automatically selected by Tbird,
View -> Character Encoding -> Auto-Detect is always "off". Go figure.
I found an e-mail with:
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Windows-1252"
and the default selected under View -> Character Encoding was, yep,
Windows-1252. I did finally find an e-mail that specified an encoding
that was not selected under View -> Character Encoding. The email had:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
but View -> Character Encoding had selected "Western (ISO-1859-1)". The
e-mail didn't look any different when I selected US-ASCII for view
encoding mode so maybe Tbird figures one is a superset of the other.
Note that I configured Tbird to use the Simple HTML view. It wasn't so
much for safety as Tbird can sometimes get damn slow if Original HTML
mode is used. I don't think that view mode affects what encoding Tbird
shows and instead Tbird is complying with the encoding specified in the
message (or maybe falling back to an encoding specified in the fallback
settings you find in the config editor).
EE
Jul 1, 2014, 2:50:54 PM7/1/14
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