Sending (forward) EML files?
Irv Spalten
think?) files. I get them and can see everything, however, when I go to
FORWARD that message, it goes out as an attachment, the message I'm
sending is blank (other than my signature) and the file name shows as
(null).EML which doesn't exist so the person I send the message to sees
nothing?
Is there a setting for this?
Irv
JoeS
Current nightly builds are much better, but still not flawless, especially if you want
to edit a saved html message that contains images.
I ran a few quick tests, and 1.5.0.4 does drop most of the forwarded data.
In nightly builds, forwarding does work at least with the eml as an attachment.
If you are brave, you could roll the dice and try a nightly, but be aware that
this is not for the inexperienced user.
Otherwise, you will just have to be patient. Improvements are coming.
JoeS
Irv Spalten
take a chance. At least I know it is a problem, not something I've done
wrong.
Thanks,
Irv
Mike Cowperthwaite
> It seems I've got a problem forwarding .EML (Outlook generated HTML I
> think?) files. I get them and can see everything, however, when I go to
> FORWARD that message, it goes out as an attachment, the message I'm
> sending is blank (other than my signature) and the file name shows as
> (null).EML
What's happening here is, I believe, that you are re-forwarding (inline)
a message that was forwarded to you as an attachment. Attachments are
not included in the forwarded text. Further, the mail client that your
correspondent used didn't add a filename to the attachment; whereas Moz
is implemented to always put a filename on MIME parts (unnecessary, but
that's what it does). So it adds a name to the attachment it's
forwarding, and the name is pretty much random:
http://mozillanews.org/bugzilla_warning.php3?id=188108
There's a patch waiting review at that bug which changes the behavior to
use the name "ForwardedMessage.eml" instead of "(null).eml" -- not the
ideal behavior, but I guess making the behavior smarter would require a
lot of re-writing.
A workaround with 1.5 is to save the attachment that was forwarded to
you as a .EML file, then open that (using File|Open from TBird), then
select Forward from that window. This doesn't include any text your
correspondent might have put in their message when forwarding to you.
With 2.0 and later, you'll also be able to Forward from the window you
get when you directly open the attachment into its own window (rather
than saving to disk and opening).
Another workaround is for you to use forward-as-attachment rather than
forward-inline.
> which doesn't exist so the person I send the message to sees nothing
This doesn't make sense to me; the recipient of your message ought to be
able to view the forwarded attachment even with the weird name.
Cal Tinson
Repeating a prior post of mine:
CTinCT
On 1/12/2006 9:01 AM eastern, Thanos wrote:
>> I received a message that has as an attachment an eml file, i.e.
>> another message. I right click in the attachments field the eml in
>> question and select "open". From the new window I click on the
>> forward button but nothing happens. The same for reply/reply to
>> all.
> >
> > Is it just me or this is how it works?
> >
> > Using TB 1.5 RC2.
>From a thread I started (TB 1.5 and .eml Files) on the other server
around the end of November (in essence, no one was able to provide an
alternative to this workaround):
CTinFL
PS: make sure you're set to use html for the reply.
I often receive forwarded jokes with images from a friend using AOL. On
occasion, I want to pass one on, but minus up to six levels of prior
forwards and a zillion e-mail addresses showing. (I know, I know, my
friend shouldn't do that, but I can't get him to edit before sending!!)
Only way I've found to do that with TB (thus avoiding having to screw
around with OE, ugh!) which will allow me to edit out headers while
retaining the images is to:
- start to reply to my friend, then replace his address with (bcc)
addresses I want to send to.
- edit out prior headers.
Only problem is that stuff goes out quoted. That's pretty minor.
Irv Spalten
Mike Cowperthwaite wrote:
> Irv Spalten wrote:
>> It seems I've got a problem forwarding .EML (Outlook generated HTML I
>> think?) files. I get them and can see everything, however, when I go
>> to FORWARD that message, it goes out as an attachment, the message I'm
>> sending is blank (other than my signature) and the file name shows as
>> (null).EML
>
> What's happening here is, I believe, that you are re-forwarding (inline)
> a message that was forwarded to you as an attachment.
Well it could have been in a specific instance, but I've located one
that isn't. Someone with an AOL account did forward a message to me but
the message and the forwarded message contained 'wallpaper'. This is the
primary part of the source with some data that might identify the
message contents removed.
============
--part1_4d4.126cf9d.31c1a16c_boundary
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="-----------------------------1150306156"
-------------------------------1150306156
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Do not forward
Stan
-------------------------------1150306156
Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>AOL Email</TITLE>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=3DGENERATOR>
<META
content=3Dhttp://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/stationery/symbls/heroes-st/nypd.ht=
m=20
name=3DStationery></HEAD>
<BODY style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: NimbusSanT"=20
bottomMargin=3D0 leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 rightMargin=3D0>
<DIV id=3Drole_document>
<TABLE id=3Drole_layout height=3D"100%" cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D7
widt=
h=3D"100%"=20
align=3Dcenter=20
background=3Dhttp://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/stationery/symbls/heroes-st/heroes/206=
-nypd=20
border=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR height=3D"100%">
<TD width=3D"100%">
<DIV id=3Drole_body=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:
NimbusSanT; HEI=
GHT: 100%">
<DIV><STRONG>Do not forward</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Stan</STRONG></DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>=
</BODY></HTML>
-------------------------------1150306156--
--part1_4d4.126cf9d.31c1a16c_boundary
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Disposition: inline
Return-path: zzzzz
From: zzzzz
Full-name: zzzz
Message-ID: <425.333694...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 13:23:13 EDT
Subject: zzzz
To: zzzz
CC: zzzzz
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="part2_4d4.126cf9d.31c1a001_boundary"
X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5027
--part2_4d4.126cf9d.31c1a001_boundary
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="-----------------------------1150305793"
-------------------------------1150305793
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Gentlemen,
=======
Data Removed, just message contents
======
-------------------------------1150305793
Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>AOL Email</TITLE>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=3DGENERATOR>
<META
content=3Dhttp://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/stationery/symbls/heroes-st/nypd.ht=
m=20
name=3DStationery></HEAD>
<BODY style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: NimbusSanT"=20
bottomMargin=3D0 leftMargin=3D0 topMargin=3D0 rightMargin=3D0>
<DIV id=3Drole_document>
<TABLE id=3Drole_layout height=3D"100%" cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D7
widt=
h=3D"100%"=20
align=3Dcenter=20
background=3Dhttp://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/stationery/symbls/heroes-st/heroes/206=
-nypd=20
border=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR height=3D"100%">
<TD width=3D"100%">
<DIV id=3Drole_body=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY:
NimbusSanT; HEI=
GHT: 100%">
<DIV>Gentlemen,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
=============
DATA REMOVED, message contents.
=============
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Respectfully. zzzz=20
zzzz</DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BODY></HTML>
-------------------------------1150305793--
--part2_4d4.126cf9d.31c1a001_boundary
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Disposition: inline
============
contents of forwarded message
============
--part2_4d4.126cf9d.31c1a001_boundary--
--part1_4d4.126cf9d.31c1a16c_boundary--
=========================
The 'wallpaper' and the entire message became (null.eml).
> Attachments are
> not included in the forwarded text. Further, the mail client that your
> correspondent used didn't add a filename to the attachment; whereas Moz
> is implemented to always put a filename on MIME parts (unnecessary, but
> that's what it does). So it adds a name to the attachment it's
> forwarding, and the name is pretty much random:
> http://mozillanews.org/bugzilla_warning.php3?id=188108
>
> There's a patch waiting review at that bug which changes the behavior to
> use the name "ForwardedMessage.eml" instead of "(null).eml" -- not the
> ideal behavior, but I guess making the behavior smarter would require a
> lot of re-writing.
>
> A workaround with 1.5 is to save the attachment that was forwarded to
> you as a .EML file, then open that (using File|Open from TBird), then
> select Forward from that window. This doesn't include any text your
> correspondent might have put in their message when forwarding to you.
>
> With 2.0 and later, you'll also be able to Forward from the window you
> get when you directly open the attachment into its own window (rather
> than saving to disk and opening).
>
> Another workaround is for you to use forward-as-attachment rather than
> forward-inline.
>
>
>> which doesn't exist so the person I send the message to sees nothing
>
> This doesn't make sense to me; the recipient of your message ought to be
> able to view the forwarded attachment even with the weird name.
Ahh, now I see it as I tested it. My problem was I didn't have the eml
extension set to open anything. Interestingly enough, I figured it would
open in OE, but it didn't? I did get 2 attachments, one (null).eml, and
the other subjectname.eml (where the forwarded subject, including the
re: was in the name). The (null) was the complete message, the other
part was the forwarded message only.
Now one other oddity. When I clicked on the (null).eml Windows asked
what to do with it? The check box said this setting can be changed at
TOOLS-OPTIONS-DOWNLOADS, but that doesn't exist? The closest I can find
is TOOLS-OPTIONS-ATTACHMENTS-DOWNLOAD OPTIONS, and under the VIEW AND
EDIT ACTIONS, I'd expect to have seen .eml, but it isn't there? Looks
like Windows is managing this for me as I see that for the extension as
to what program will be opened. I guess the person I did send it to
didn't have OE or TB? I do know they use Yahoo web mail and maybe that
didn't open it and could be the answer?
Irv