Should I give up on Thunderbird?

[Wes Morgan]

Hi everyone,

My ISP is ATT. Recently they changed their software and said that their
new server is "pop.att.yahoo.com" I've changed all my sub accounts or
identities to this and I can't get any mail. When I call for support,
they tell me they only support MS Monopoly products! What's the right
way to set up Thunderbird for ATT? The old "mail.bellsouth.net doesn't
work anymore. How are you folks doing it?

Thanks,
Wes

[g]

Wes Morgan wrote:

> My ISP is ATT. Recently they changed their software and said that their
> new server is "pop.att.yahoo.com" I've changed all my sub accounts or
> identities to this and I can't get any mail.

at&t did not change their software, they gave email serving to yahoo.

problems is not fault of thunderbird, it is a fault of yahoo.

> When I call for support,

who did you call?

what did you set your security settings to?

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[Andrew DeFaria]

POP is a pretty simply protocol. You should look it up.

When you say "I can't get any mail" could you be a little more vague as to how you determined that you couldn't get any mail. I mean we almost figured it out!

Seriously though, unless you give us more details about what you changed, what you expected to happen and what actually happened we'd simply be guessing...

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[Mike Easter]

Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Content-Type: text/html;

This link explains to newbies why they should post to newsgroups with
plaintext instead of html http://www.anta.net/misc/nnq/nhtml.shtml
HTML-formatted postings are not welcomed in newsgroups.

Also seen in netiquette guidelines

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html The seven don'ts of
Usenet, ... Don't post anything but plain text to Usenet

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[Jay Garcia]

On 19.02.2009 04:37, Mike Easter wrote:

--- Original Message ---

We understand your concern here, however this isn't *usenet*. But most
importantly you're dealing with Andrew and instructing him regarding the
use of text/html is like instructing the Pope to convert to Buddhism.

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[Matthew Monaco]

Wes,

Try calling ATT and just telling them that you're using Outlook. Get the
details like pop server, pop server port, smtp server, smtp server port. Do
either of the pop/smtp server require/support SSL or TLS. Ask if you're
username should be "us...@att.com" or just "user".

Of course this information might also be online somewhere.

With the necessary settings you should be able to extrapolate the directions for
Outlook Express to Thunderbird.

One thing is certain, you certainly don't need to give up on the Bird.

[Matthew Monaco]

Try these servers, ports, and SSL settings:
http://mytechnotes.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/att-yahoo-sbc-dsl-email-settings/

Here's something else on the topic:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=548075

Good luck

[g]

Matthew Monaco wrote:

> Try calling ATT and just telling them that you're using Outlook.

not a good idea. all they have to do is pull his records and see from
headers what he is using.

if they ask him to send a test message to a special address. then that
could possibly drop him for false information.

a better bet would be insuring that he has *all* of his setup correct
as you suggest further in your posts.

[Jay Garcia]

On 19.02.2009 08:28, Matthew Monaco wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Please quote at least some previous text so that readers following this
have more than just an answer and have to go back to see what question
it relates to .. thanks

[Jay Garcia]

On 19.02.2009 08:31, Matthew Monaco wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Please quote at least some previous text so that readers following this

[clay]

Too late now, but you don't have to 'migrate'. ATT just taunts us into
believing we have to.

There are a few learned folks at sbcglobal.help.tech.email and some
posts there might provide insight.
iirc, it involves using ssl and authenticating your address and assorted
other gyrations.

clay
[still @pacbell.net]

[Bernie]

That is the POP server that I use. You must check the SSL box. I use
port 995. Username is your id@domain.

Bernie

[Andrew DeFaria]

Jay Garcia wrote:

We understand your concern here, however this isn't *usenet*. But most importantly you're dealing with Andrew and instructing him regarding the use of text/html is like instructing the Pope to convert to Buddhism.

And they say an old dog can't learn new tricks! You've finally learned, after all these years...

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[Andrew DeFaria]

g wrote:

Matthew Monaco wrote:

Try calling ATT and just telling them that you're using Outlook.

not a good idea. all they have to do is pull his records and see from headers what he is using.

That's if they even knew how to do that! Chances are they'll tell you to try chkdsk!

if they ask him to send a test message to a special address. then that could possibly drop him for false information.

Yeah right. What sort of law or EULA says that? (Hint: None).

a better bet would be insuring that he has *all* of his setup correct as you suggest further in your posts.

Of course. Better yet he could have spend 0.30 seconds to type in "att email settings pop server" into google.

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I always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific.

[g]

Mike Easter wrote:

> This link explains to newbies why they should post to newsgroups with
> plaintext instead of html http://www.anta.net/misc/nnq/nhtml.shtml
> HTML-formatted postings are not welcomed in newsgroups.
>
> Also seen in netiquette guidelines
>
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html The seven don'ts of
> Usenet, ... Don't post anything but plain text to Usenet

you could have added;
http://www.mozilla.org/community/etiquette.html

tho it is obvious that many subscribed to this list have never read it.

many subscribed to this list have little concern for subscribers who
are on 'dial up' or pay by minute for 'online time'.

[The Real Bev]

Jay Garcia wrote:

> On 19.02.2009 04:37, Mike Easter wrote:
>
>> Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>
>> This link explains to newbies why they should post to newsgroups with
>> plaintext instead of html http://www.anta.net/misc/nnq/nhtml.shtml
>> HTML-formatted postings are not welcomed in newsgroups.
>>
>> Also seen in netiquette guidelines
>>
>> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html The seven don'ts of
>> Usenet, ... Don't post anything but plain text to Usenet
>
> We understand your concern here, however this isn't *usenet*. But most
> importantly you're dealing with Andrew and instructing him regarding the
> use of text/html is like instructing the Pope to convert to Buddhism.

I seem to remember hearing that you can be a Buddhist along with whatever other
religion you might be. Or maybe that was Unitarianism...

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[Ron Hunter]

The Real Bev wrote:
> Jay Garcia wrote:
>
>> On 19.02.2009 04:37, Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>>> Content-Type: text/html;
>>>
>>> This link explains to newbies why they should post to newsgroups with
>>> plaintext instead of html http://www.anta.net/misc/nnq/nhtml.shtml
>>> HTML-formatted postings are not welcomed in newsgroups.
>>>
>>> Also seen in netiquette guidelines
>>>
>>> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html The seven don'ts of
>>> Usenet, ... Don't post anything but plain text to Usenet
>> We understand your concern here, however this isn't *usenet*. But most
>> importantly you're dealing with Andrew and instructing him regarding the
>> use of text/html is like instructing the Pope to convert to Buddhism.
>
> I seem to remember hearing that you can be a Buddhist along with whatever other
> religion you might be. Or maybe that was Unitarianism...
>

As I understand it, yes, you can. It is a philosophy, not, strictly, a
religion.

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[Andrew DeFaria]

g wrote:

Mike Easter wrote:

This link explains to newbies why they should post to newsgroups with plaintext instead of html http://www.anta.net/misc/nnq/nhtml.shtml HTML-formatted postings are not welcomed in newsgroups.

Also seen in netiquette guidelines

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html The seven don'ts of Usenet, ... Don't post anything but plain text to Usenet

you could have added;
http://www.mozilla.org/community/etiquette.html

tho it is obvious that many subscribed to this list have never read it.

You suffer from the delusion that 100% of the people who will bother to read that link will, of course, agree with that position 100%. However that will never be the case. IOW you fail to leave open possibility that some people will not agree with you. How pompous!

many subscribed to this list have little concern for subscribers who are on 'dial up' or pay by minute for 'online time'.

"Dial up" and "pay by minute" is so 20th century it isn't funny. Time to graduate to the 21st century or stfu!

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[Steven]

The problem is they changed their ports. pop.att.yahoo.com should be
set at port 995. It also requires encrypted connection SSL. Check that
off.

Second, the smtp.att.yahoo.com port should be set at 465. It also
requires encrypted connection SSL. Check that off.

That should help you.