Tabs are lost on Thunderbird restart

[Herb@UK]

When I restart Thunderbird, any tabs that were open in the previous
session disappear.

Is there a setting to retain them?

Thank you.

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Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

[Tanstaafl]

On 4/10/2015 5:25 AM, Herb@UK <H...@UK.dca1.giganews.com> wrote:
> When I restart Thunderbird, any tabs that were open in the previous
> session disappear.
>
> Is there a setting to retain them?

They should be retained.

Sounds like your sessions file is corrupt...

Close Thunderbird, go to your profile folder, and delete the
session.json file, then restart Thunderbird.

Now it should remember open tabs between sessions.

[Herb@UK]

Splendid, thank you. Seems to have done the trick 8-)

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Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

[Onno Ekker]

Hmz... Seems I need to invalidate my father's sessions.json to disable
loading of old tabs :-)

Whenever I'm on my father's computer I notice a lot open tabs with
accidentally double clicked messages, that reopen after each restart. I
was planning on creating an add-on to stop this, but seems it can be
done more easily...

Onno

[Axel Grude]

Subject: Re: Tabs are lost on Thunderbird restart
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:44:55 +0200
From: Onno Ekker
To: Mozilla-support-thunderbird

I really wish someone would write an Add-on that shows the last 5 Sessions as
sometimes (especially when developing) a Tb crash can lead to all Tabs being lost.

Having emails open that I have in tabs is one of the BIG advantages over Outlook in my
experience and opinion. The only workaround in Outlook is to *never close it* which
runs into resource issues often (and obviously I can also never shut down Windows, but
have to put the machine into sleep mode, leading to memory fragmentation).

(Still Outlook) Using flags hasn't proven as a workable solution. Also using
Windowtabs to "simulate tabbed mail" can lead to multiple instances and is prone to
"clog up memory".

If we had a way to go back 2 or 3 sessions in Thunderbird this would be really really
helpful.

Axel

[Tanstaafl]

On 4/10/2015 1:44 PM, Onno Ekker <o.e....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whenever I'm on my father's computer I notice a lot open tabs with
> accidentally double clicked messages,

This was driving me crazy for a long time, trying to figure out how
users were accidentally doing this... especially since I had explicity
set Tools > Options > Advanced > Reading & Display > Open messages in

to 'A new message window'.

The users would swear to me they weren't accidenatlly double-clicking on
a message, that it would happen randomly pn messages that they never
(intentionally) clicked on.

Then one day I stumbled on the answer...

They (and I do this too) are always scrolling the message thread pane
with their mouse scroll wheel.

The problem is, the scroll wheel is also a middle mouse button, and
Thunderbird very annoyingly is hard coded to open a message in a new tab
when middle clicked.

So, the users were accidentally 'clicking' the mousewheel.

I searched and searched for a way to disable this in Thunderbird, to no
avail... so I created:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=935920

[Roger Fink]

You should be able to defeat Thunderbird's default middle button
behavior, or any other button behavior you don't like, by installing the
free X-Mouse button control program, which allows you to override the
default behavior of any button or wheel setting or hot key setting for
any program you have installed on a Windows machine. It works for any 5
button or 3 button mouse.
http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm
It takes awhile to get the hang of how to set it up but it works
flawlessly and I find it's well worth it, especially if you are a
mouse-oriented user.

http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm

Overall I use it on 8 programs. In T-bird I toggle the message pane with
the 5th button of my Intellimouse and toggle the folder pane with the 4th.

[Roger Fink]

> which allows you to override the
> default behavior of any button or wheel setting or hot key setting for
> any program you have installed on a Windows machine.

What I should have said there is that you can replicate the behavior of
any hot key on any mouse button, which is how I am able to toggle the
message and folder panes in Thunderbird using mouse buttons.

[Tanstaafl]

On 4/11/2015 9:20 PM, Roger Fink <fi...@manana.org> wrote:
> You should be able to defeat Thunderbird's default middle button
> behavior, or any other button behavior you don't like, by installing the

> free X-Mouse button control program, which allows you to override the

> default behavior of any button or wheel setting or hot key setting for
> any program you have installed on a Windows machine.

I'm pretty sure I looked at this one already when researching this problem.

Are you saying it will work on a per application basis? Id so, I'll
deinitely use it, thanks. Maybe it just isn't obvious how to do that and
I gave up before figuring that part out...

I know I can disable t he middle button globally, but I use it for
another things in other programs so that is not an option.

Thanks again for the pointer...

[Roger Fink]

When you set up X-Mouse you create a separate profile in the program for
every application you want to use it with. Any changes you make to the
default behavior of a button applies only to the specific application
profile.

Within the T-bird profile, if you select "Middle Button" and then select
"Disable", it sounds like that would be the minimalist solution, but I
confess I've never tried to disable a button. btw, "Wheel Up" and "Wheel
Down" are also included as separate options.

It is a bit confounding when you first try to set the program up, but
stick with it and the Eureka moment should come.

This program works on top of the native mouse driver for Windows. If you
have any other mouse software installed, such as some version of
Intellimouse, I don't know what the result would be, but I'd bet it's
probably not a good one.

[Herb@UK]

Unfortunately my tabs keep disappearing sporadically =-O :-( :'(

--
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

[Tanstaafl]

On 4/25/2015 4:33 PM, Herb@UK <H...@UK.dca1.giganews.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately my tabs keep disappearing sporadically =-O :-( :'(

Does it only happen when it crashes? Or between normal start/quit session?

If the latter it sounds like something is messing with your sessions
file... maybe an Addon?

[Herb@UK]

Thanks for your reply.

TB very rarely crashes on my PC (although on my laptop with 'identical'
setup it crashes quite regularly for some reason, but that's another
story...). In other words, the tabs disappear between normal start/quit
sessions, although it doesn't happen consistently. I'll try and keep an
eye on the situation.

Regards

--
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

[Herb@UK]

This still keeps happening, without obvious "pattern"...

Any further suggestions?

--
Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk

[Tanstaafl]

On 6/17/2015 10:39 AM, Herb@UK <H...@UK.dca1.giganews.com> wrote:
> On 27.04.2015 06:11 UK Time, Herb@UK wrote:

>> On 26.04.2015 15:16 UK Time, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>> On 4/25/2015 4:33 PM, Herb@UK <H...@UK.dca1.giganews.com> wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately my tabs keep disappearing sporadically =-O :-( :'(
>>>
>>> Does it only happen when it crashes? Or between normal start/quit
>>> session?
>>>
>>> If the latter it sounds like something is messing with your sessions
>>> file... maybe an Addon?

>> TB very rarely crashes on my PC (although on my laptop with 'identical'
>> setup it crashes quite regularly for some reason, but that's another
>> story...). In other words, the tabs disappear between normal start/quit
>> sessions, although it doesn't happen consistently. I'll try and keep an
>> eye on the situation.
>

> This still keeps happening, without obvious "pattern"...
>
> Any further suggestions?

I'd start over with a fresh/clean profile.

[Herb@UK]

Thanks, but I'll keep hoping for a while that there might be a less
drastic solution...

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Herbert Eppel
www.HETranslation.co.uk