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Jane

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:00:39 PM7/24/08
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I have a user who regularly sends email using
Japanese characters and always gets the message
asking to Send in UTF-8, Send Anyway, Cancel.

Is there a way to configure Thunderbird so that
when it discovers such situation it just sends
it in UTF-8 without the prompt?

til...@yahoo.de

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Jul 24, 2008, 7:43:31 PM7/24/08
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Hi, i copy&pasted the post below, i can't give you exact instructions
as i use german TB... You need to go to i think: Options or
preferneces or settings (second menu from right>the lowest menu) and
then follow instruciont below.

"The option to control this, is
of course to be found in the *Display* preferences.
From there, it's into
Fonts & Encodings: Fonts, where you'll find a "Character Encodings"
section."

Jane

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Jul 24, 2008, 9:21:23 PM7/24/08
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Perfect! Thank you very much!

Jeffrey Kaplan

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Jul 25, 2008, 1:36:39 AM7/25/08
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Previously on mozilla.support.thunderbird, til...@yahoo.de said:

> > Is there a way to configure Thunderbird so that
> > when it discovers such situation it just sends
> > it in UTF-8 without the prompt?
>
> Hi, i copy&pasted the post below, i can't give you exact instructions
> as i use german TB... You need to go to i think: Options or
> preferneces or settings (second menu from right>the lowest menu) and
> then follow instruciont below.
>
> "The option to control this, is
> of course to be found in the *Display* preferences.
> From there, it's into
> Fonts & Encodings: Fonts, where you'll find a "Character Encodings"
> section."

FYI, I have TB set to use UTF-8 for outgoing messages. I +still+ get
that prompt asking me if I want to use UTF-8 if there's a character
that can't be rendered in ISO-8859-x.

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Arivald

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Jul 25, 2008, 4:19:00 AM7/25/08
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Jeffrey Kaplan pisze:

> Previously on mozilla.support.thunderbird, til...@yahoo.de said:
>
>>> Is there a way to configure Thunderbird so that
>>> when it discovers such situation it just sends
>>> it in UTF-8 without the prompt?
>> Hi, i copy&pasted the post below, i can't give you exact instructions
>> as i use german TB... You need to go to i think: Options or
>> preferneces or settings (second menu from right>the lowest menu) and
>> then follow instruciont below.
>>
>> "The option to control this, is
>> of course to be found in the *Display* preferences.
>> From there, it's into
>> Fonts & Encodings: Fonts, where you'll find a "Character Encodings"
>> section."
>
> FYI, I have TB set to use UTF-8 for outgoing messages. I +still+ get
> that prompt asking me if I want to use UTF-8 if there's a character
> that can't be rendered in ISO-8859-x.
>

in same "Fonts & Encodings: Fonts", check most bellow check-box: "Use
default encoding in reply". This will force to change reply encoding to
your encoding (UTF-8), instead of original.

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Jeffrey Kaplan

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Jul 25, 2008, 11:58:06 AM7/25/08
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Previously on mozilla.support.thunderbird, Arivald said:

> > FYI, I have TB set to use UTF-8 for outgoing messages. I +still+ get
> > that prompt asking me if I want to use UTF-8 if there's a character
> > that can't be rendered in ISO-8859-x.
> in same "Fonts & Encodings: Fonts", check most bellow check-box: "Use
> default encoding in reply". This will force to change reply encoding to
> your encoding (UTF-8), instead of original.

It is.

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Nir

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Jul 25, 2008, 11:59:52 AM7/25/08
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Jeffrey Kaplan wrote, On 25/07/08 21:43:

> Previously on mozilla.support.thunderbird, Arivald said:
>
>>> FYI, I have TB set to use UTF-8 for outgoing messages. I +still+
>>> get that prompt asking me if I want to use UTF-8 if there's a
>>> character that can't be rendered in ISO-8859-x.
>> in same "Fonts& Encodings: Fonts", check most bellow check-box:

>> "Use default encoding in reply". This will force to change reply
>> encoding to your encoding (UTF-8), instead of original.
>
> It is.
>

"For more advanced control, you can define a "fallback" encoding to be
used when the selected charset doesn't cover all the characters in use.
You define a fallback for each character set you want to use. So, for
instance, you can define this preference:

intl.fallbackCharsetList.ISO-8859-1

to be UTF-8 or ISO-8859-15,Windows-1252


In the first instance, Moz will automatically convert an 8859-1 message
to UTF-8 without prompting; in the second case, it will convert the
8859-1 message to 8859-15, if that encoding works; if not, it will
convert to Windows-1252, if *that* encoding works; if neither works, it
will prompt you to convert to UTF-8 or return to select a different
character set."


"http://osdir.com/ml/mozilla.devel.windows/2005-07/msg00027.html"

Jeffrey Kaplan

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Jul 25, 2008, 4:34:19 PM7/25/08
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Previously on mozilla.support.thunderbird, Nir said:

> "For more advanced control, you can define a "fallback" encoding to be
> used when the selected charset doesn't cover all the characters in use.
> You define a fallback for each character set you want to use. So, for
> instance, you can define this preference:
>
> intl.fallbackCharsetList.ISO-8859-1
>
> to be UTF-8 or ISO-8859-15,Windows-1252
>
> In the first instance, Moz will automatically convert an 8859-1 message
> to UTF-8 without prompting; in the second case, it will convert the
> 8859-1 message to 8859-15, if that encoding works; if not, it will
> convert to Windows-1252, if *that* encoding works; if neither works, it
> will prompt you to convert to UTF-8 or return to select a different
> character set."
>
>
> "http://osdir.com/ml/mozilla.devel.windows/2005-07/msg00027.html"

Except that, as I already stated, my selected default is UTF-8. All
other charsets for "Western" languages are not a full-features. And I
occasionally get the prompt to use UTF-8 because a character cannot be
encoded in the selected charset.

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Andrew Price

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Jul 25, 2008, 6:53:37 PM7/25/08
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:34:19 -0400, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org>
wrote:

>Except that, as I already stated, my selected default is UTF-8. All
>other charsets for "Western" languages are not a full-features. And I
>occasionally get the prompt to use UTF-8 because a character cannot be
>encoded in the selected charset.

When writing in a European language?

Jeffrey Kaplan

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Jul 25, 2008, 11:14:29 PM7/25/08
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When writing in English. A reply to other messages also written in
English. But that is not the issue.

My settings are to send in UTF-8. I sometimes get a prompt about
characters being unable to be encoded in my selected charset and asking
if I want to send in UTF-8.

Am I not explaining things properly?

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Andrew Price

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Jul 26, 2008, 3:53:34 PM7/26/08
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:14:29 -0400, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org>
wrote:

>> >Except that, as I already stated, my selected default is UTF-8. All
>> >other charsets for "Western" languages are not a full-features. And I
>> >occasionally get the prompt to use UTF-8 because a character cannot be
>> >encoded in the selected charset.
>>
>> When writing in a European language?
>
>When writing in English. A reply to other messages also written in
>English. But that is not the issue.
>
>My settings are to send in UTF-8. I sometimes get a prompt about
>characters being unable to be encoded in my selected charset and asking
>if I want to send in UTF-8.
>
>Am I not explaining things properly?

Or I haven't understood properly. I took it that you were writing in
a language whose characters or diacritical accents could not be
rendered properly by 8859-1 or 8859-15, and *that* was the reason why
you'd opted for utf-8.

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