On 3/27/21 8:55 PM, BillH wrote:
On 3/27/2021 1:20 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).
*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Thunderbird support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/thunderbird?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support
*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.
Sad news. I will miss the newsgroup. I have really enjoyed the helpful folks here. Everyone stay safe.
Yes, sad indeed. Maybe it's just because I'm old, but I've always preferred
information to be "pushed" to me, as with incoming email, rather than
"pulled" from a web forum. All my important information is pushed to my
one instance of Thunderbird, I would never be able to visit multiple web
sites to keep up-to-date with all my varied information sources. I would
never have seen this message if it appeared only in the web forum.
Regards,
Lew
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Agreed.
Getting information by forum is MUCH less efficient than just scanning subject lines and reading those of interest.
VERY sad decision . . . .
Am 28.03.21 um 06:31 schrieb Lew Wolfgang:
On 3/27/21 8:55 PM, BillH wrote:
On 3/27/2021 1:20 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:
*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).
*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Thunderbird support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/thunderbird?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support
*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.
Sad news. I will miss the newsgroup. I have really enjoyed the helpful folks here. Everyone stay safe.
Yes, sad indeed. Maybe it's just because I'm old, but I've always preferred
information to be "pushed" to me, as with incoming email, rather than
"pulled" from a web forum. All my important information is pushed to my
one instance of Thunderbird, I would never be able to visit multiple web
sites to keep up-to-date with all my varied information sources. I would
never have seen this message if it appeared only in the web forum.
Regards,
Lew
Same goes for me, I am following hundreds of Mailing lists and don´t think it is possible to do that with forums.
Good Bye,
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On 3/28/21 3:15 AM, Dave Royal wrote:
On 27 Mar 2021 16:20:04 -0400 Chris Ilias wrote:
*WHAT IS HAPPENING*There have been so few posts recently I began to think the feeds had
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) ..
already been turned off!
I can now dump this newsreader, which I wrote because I couldn't access
m.s groups on Android.
For anyone using my addon 'Limit non-BCC Recipients' and the old
'Use BCC Instead C', you may be pleased, and amazed, to know that it
should soon be obsolete. After 17 years Mozilla is implementing this
bug:
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271405>
Goodbye everyone.
I'm still confused as to whether Thunderbird is a Mozilla product, or just a product developed by the Thunderbird Council, which has a financial and legal home at MZLA Co, which is a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation AIUI.
Regardless of financial and corporate structure, Thunderbird
is absolutely not a Mozilla product. The development and
oversight was given over to the community in 2014.
First and foremost, the code is open source - so Mozilla
cannot own the code. The trademark however is owned by Mozilla
Foundation.
On 3/28/21 11:16 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 3/28/21 3:15 AM, Dave Royal wrote:
On 27 Mar 2021 16:20:04 -0400 Chris Ilias wrote:
*WHAT IS HAPPENING*There have been so few posts recently I began to think the feeds had
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) ..
already been turned off!
I can now dump this newsreader, which I wrote because I couldn't access
m.s groups on Android.
For anyone using my addon 'Limit non-BCC Recipients' and the old
'Use BCC Instead C', you may be pleased, and amazed, to know that it
should soon be obsolete. After 17 years Mozilla is implementing this
bug:
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271405>
Goodbye everyone.
I'm still confused as to whether Thunderbird is a Mozilla product, or just a product developed by the Thunderbird Council, which has a financial and legal home at MZLA Co, which is a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation AIUI.
Regardless of financial and corporate structure, Thunderbird is absolutely not a Mozilla product. The development and oversight was given over to the community in 2014.
Correction - given to the community in 2012. 2014 is when
volunteers organized and created the Thunderbird Council, and
things went uphill from there.
First and foremost, the code is open source - so Mozilla cannot own the code. The trademark however is owned by Mozilla Foundation.
I should ask, does this help people's understanding of the status of Mozilla in relation to Thunderbird?