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John McWilliams via TB

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Sep 28, 2010, 11:27:16 AM9/28/10
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Nasty surprise last evening as I was helping a PC friend set up a mail
account on Thunderbird- seems blocked by Yahoo; mail can be sent but not
collected via POP. Is there a work around other than paying dough to Yahoo?

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john mcwilliams

Traveller

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Sep 28, 2010, 11:42:14 AM9/28/10
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Try the WebMail addon: http://webmail.mozdev.org/index.html

Peter Taylor

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Sep 28, 2010, 11:53:35 AM9/28/10
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Yahoo.com or Yahoo.ca? Those don't work. All others do. I use yahoo.es
and it works perfectly in any email program or POP.

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Peter Taylor

Tarkus

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Sep 28, 2010, 12:36:11 PM9/28/10
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Gmail? Free POP3, IMAP and Forwarding. And excellent spam filtering.

If Yahoo! Mail has free forwarding, they could always have it forwarded
to their Gmail account.

Traveller

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Sep 28, 2010, 12:37:31 PM9/28/10
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Actually, Yahoo.ca does work. I have several of them.

pop.mail.yahoo.com
Port 995
SSL/TLS
normal password
user name = full email address

These settings DO NOT work for yahoo.com addresses; you need to pay the
premium to connect via POP. I guess the Canadian market is too small for
Yahoo to get excited about.

Peter Taylor

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Sep 28, 2010, 12:47:16 PM9/28/10
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No, they hoped to do it for all their domains but it flopped so they didn't.

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Peter Taylor

s|b

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Sep 28, 2010, 1:01:49 PM9/28/10
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 08:42:14 -0700, Traveller wrote:

> Try the WebMail addon: http://webmail.mozdev.org/index.html

+1

Works fine over here.

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s|b

John H Meyers

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Sep 28, 2010, 1:40:53 PM9/28/10
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After reading, 2-3 months ago, of a posted procedure by means of which
you _can_ get free Yahoo accounts POP-enabled, even in USA,
I tested and verified that it worked, as of when I tried it,
although minor modifications were necessary
to adjust for re-arranged Yahoo settings:

http://picobit.wordpress.com

Click on the April 2009 article about
"Yahoo Mail free POP access"

I don't bother using it in real life, however,
since Gmail is IMO superior in every respect,
including free POP or even IMAP access
(intelligently designed to suit a primarily web-based architecture
and superior storage architecture).

Surely Yahoo knows all about this, and had done nothing
to alter it even as of early July 2010.

Another article on the above site explains how to leverage
free Yahoo POP a bit further,
to first transfer all the Yahoo mail to Gmail.

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John McWilliams via TB

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Sep 28, 2010, 2:43:15 PM9/28/10
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Which Yahoo! are you using? And am I right in thinking that the webmail
addon does not work on the US unpaid version?

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John McWilliams

John McWilliams via TB

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Sep 28, 2010, 2:45:49 PM9/28/10
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Yes, thanks, that is consistent with what I am learning. No wonder gmail
is eating their lunch, though I do wonder if we'll wake up some morning
with a note to say, BTW, effective in 30 days we will charge you X$ per
month for unencumbered Gmail....

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John Mcwilliams

s|b

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Sep 28, 2010, 4:04:33 PM9/28/10
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:43:15 -0700, John McWilliams via TB wrote:

> > Works fine over here.

> Which Yahoo! are you using?

yahoo.com (free; if not, I would be using POP)

> And am I right in thinking that the webmail
> addon does not work on the US unpaid version?

Should work though. Have you read the instructions?

<http://webmail.mozdev.org/setup.html>

You need WebMail /and/ WebMail Yahoo.

However, I just tried to update WebMail 1.3.9 to 1.3.10 and I'm getting
some error about corrupt download. They picked this up on their (Yahoo)
support group:

<http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension/browse_frm/month/2010-09>

So I hope it will be fixed soon...

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s|b

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Sep 29, 2010, 1:23:55 PM9/29/10
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:04:33 +0200, s|b wrote:

> However, I just tried to update WebMail 1.3.9 to 1.3.10 and I'm getting
> some error about corrupt download. They picked this up on their (Yahoo)
> support group:
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension/browse_frm/month/2010-09>
>
> So I hope it will be fixed soon...

I uninstalled 1.3.9, restarted and then installed 1.3.10 and now it's
working fine.

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MalcolmO

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Sep 29, 2010, 6:46:43 PM9/29/10
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> Actually, Yahoo.ca does work.

Oh, man! I got a yahoo.com instead of .ca figuring that the .com would
POP. It didn't. Got the webmail add-on and it NEVER worked. Not even
once. Don't use the Yahoo address or the Webmail add-on any more.

BIG THUMBS UP for Hotmail which is free AND lets you POP. (and BIG
THUMBS DOWN for Hotmail which puts my OWN emails into Junk and doesn't
let me turn off Junk filtering. It's always something...)
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Malcolm
"They should know they're the Grateful Dead now." -- Phil

MalcolmO

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Sep 29, 2010, 6:48:32 PM9/29/10
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> Gmail? Free POP3, IMAP and Forwarding. And excellent spam filtering.

Yeah, but your email is _theirs_ -- forever! G is evil.

Terry R.

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Sep 29, 2010, 8:25:50 PM9/29/10
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On 9/29/2010 3:48 PM On a whim, MalcolmO pounded out on the keyboard

>> Gmail? Free POP3, IMAP and Forwarding. And excellent spam filtering.
>
> Yeah, but your email is _theirs_ -- forever! G is evil.

Get real. Like no free email service from anyone else is any different.

What is evil is those who spread FUD.


Terry R.
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John H Meyers

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Sep 30, 2010, 8:28:55 PM9/30/10
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On 9/29/2010 5:48 PM, MalcolmO wrote:

>> Gmail? Free POP3, IMAP and Forwarding. And excellent spam filtering.
>
> Yeah, but your email is _theirs_ -- forever! G is evil.

You can transfer all your "gmail" elsewhere at any time
(plus your contacts), thanks to both the free POP and free IMAP access.

They also have a general policy on always making migration possible,
away from Google services (sorry I haven't time to find the direct URL).

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Terry R.

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Oct 4, 2010, 9:56:24 AM10/4/10
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On 10/2/2010 11:46 AM On a whim, MalcolmO pounded out on the keyboard

>> Get real. Like no free email service from anyone else is any different.
>

> Incorrect. Microsoft says if you don't use your email for 6 months they
> throw away your mail and account.
>

And you believe everything MS says? No wonder you write stuff like
this. They state they close your account.

>> What is evil is those who spread FUD.
>

> Or keep your email forever. And so many other things.

Bye.

Tonya Marshall

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Oct 5, 2010, 2:11:46 AM10/5/10
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On 10/03/2010 12:50 PM, Cheng Heng wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I have found another way to do all this without changing
> anything. You don't even "need to be in Asia". Just use imap
> servers and it works. They are all here:
>
> imap.mail.yahoo.com port 993 (SSL/TLS)
> smtp.mail.yahoo.com port 465 (SSL/TLS)
>
> It looks like Yahoo has decided to allow everybody to download and
> send messages using third party email clients.
>
> I have tried these imap servers on three accounts (these are yahoo
> dot com) and they seem to work. Yahoo hasn't made this public
> because they are not 100% ready to serve the global users.
>
> Please advise if anybody couldn't get it to work using these imap
> servers.
>
> hth
>
>

I set up Yahoo using your settings and it worked perfectly. I had
removed Yahoo from Thunderbird after they no longer allowed a free
account with POP.

Now it's back. Thank you.

John McWilliams via TB

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Oct 5, 2010, 1:08:21 PM10/5/10
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On 10/4/10 PDT 11:11 PM, Tonya Marshall wrote:
> On 10/03/2010 12:50 PM, Cheng Heng wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> I have found another way to do all this without changing
>> anything. You don't even "need to be in Asia". Just use imap
>> servers and it works. They are all here:
>>
>> imap.mail.yahoo.com port 993 (SSL/TLS)
>> smtp.mail.yahoo.com port 465 (SSL/TLS)
>>
>> It looks like Yahoo has decided to allow everybody to download and
>> send messages using third party email clients.
>>
>> I have tried these imap servers on three accounts (these are yahoo
>> dot com) and they seem to work. Yahoo hasn't made this public
>> because they are not 100% ready to serve the global users.
>>
>> Please advise if anybody couldn't get it to work using these imap
>> servers.
>>
>
> I set up Yahoo using your settings and it worked perfectly. I had
> removed Yahoo from Thunderbird after they no longer allowed a free
> account with POP.
>
> Now it's back. Thank you.

I also thank you, even though I've had no success. I am guessing that
there's something about being onna Mac.

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Cheng Heng

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Oct 5, 2010, 4:59:08 PM10/5/10
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You are welcome Tonya and thanks for the feedback. I think Yahoo
has decided to use imap servers and allow everybody to use free of
charge because of competition from Google and Hotmail.

Cheng Heng

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Oct 5, 2010, 5:02:35 PM10/5/10
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John,

I don't use MAC but I suspect you need to check your email
configuration again because once the settings are sent to Yahoo
servers, it does not matter whether you have MAC or Windows
because yahoo uses Unix/inux to process the instructions.

hth


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John H Meyers

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Oct 6, 2010, 5:29:45 AM10/6/10
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On 10/5/2010 12:08 PM, John McWilliams wrote:

> I am guessing that there's something about being on a Mac.

Should make no difference to the Yahoo web site,
nor to its mail servers.

By the way, I once again re-enabled my own Yahoo (USA) free account
for POP access, using the same reference as already posted on Sept 28
(I chose "Asia") and tested it successfully with TB:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/msg/24af4d6e484724af

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John McWilliams via TB

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Oct 6, 2010, 11:57:06 AM10/6/10
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On 10/5/10 PDT 2:02 PM, Cheng Heng wrote:
> John,
>
> I don't use MAC but I suspect you need to check your email
> configuration again because once the settings are sent to Yahoo
> servers, it does not matter whether you have MAC or Windows
> because yahoo uses Unix/inux to process the instructions.

Finally! Thanks for hanging in there, but a couple of anomalies held me
up: The UK did not work for me; after setting, logging out, resetting,
etc, I couldn't get the page to show where you can choose to POP....
consequently, I believe, I was unable to get the customization in T-Bird
to set up for an IMAP server.

However, once I chose Asia, I could choose to POP the mail, (did not see
a choice for IMAP) then I created a new account, and was able to
customize on the IMAP with port 993. I suspect that you and others
who've already POPed your accounts were able to switch to IMAP because
the settings on the Yahoo server already let you POP. So, for someone
going in new to create an IMAP in TBird, I bet they have to first choose
POP settings.

Thanks again.

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John McWilliams

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