Add on to send unsent ,aial

[Polly the Parrott]

Scenario.

Unsent mail in Thunderbird.

Close Thunderbird.

Add on pops up message "Do you want to send unsent mail before
closing?" or similar.

Is there such an add on?

Thanks!

[VanguardLH]

Go to Mozilla's add-on site, select Thunderbird, and search for the
"Send Later" add-on. If you compose an e-mail while offline, "Send
Later" replaces the "Send" button in the compose window. You can then
choose to put the pending e-mail in the Outbox (to get sent when you
next load Tbird) or to schedule it to send later (when Tbird is
running).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/send-later-3/

By default, Thunderbird checks for unsent messages (sitting in the
Outbox folder) when it loads, not when it exits. Thunderbird will not
force a change from offline to online mode because you put items into
the Outbox while offline; i.e., Thunderbird will not override your
choice to put it into offline mode. If there is no network connection
when you send then it doesn't matter that there are items in the Outbox
because Thunderbird won't be able to send them no matter what prompt you
would like to see on exit.

[Polly the Parrott]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:47:42 -0600, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH> wrote:

>By default, Thunderbird checks for unsent messages (sitting in the
>Outbox folder) when it loads, not when it exits.

Thanks, but I need something that runs when exiting.

[VanguardLH]

Polly the Parrott wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> By default, Thunderbird checks for unsent messages (sitting in the
>> Outbox folder) when it loads, not when it exits.
>
> Thanks, but I need something that runs when exiting.

Why are the items getting stuck in the Outbox folder instead of getting
sent immediately? Doesn't that mean you put Thunderbird into offline
mode or you don't have Internet access?

[WaltS]

Because when you use "Send Later" they are put into the Outbox, to be
sent the next time you start Thunderbird.

I have "Always ask me when I go Online" checked, and get a pop-up when
Thunderbird starts up asking, "Do you want to send your unsent messages
now?". My choices are "Later" or "Send Now".

If I remove the check mark, I have to go to the Outbox and send the
message manually, or right-click on the Outbox and select "Send Unsent
Messages".

So I guess my question to the OP would be, why not write all the
messages you want to send later, then use "Send Unsent Messages" before
exiting Thunderbird, then exit Thunderbird.

[WaltS]

On 02/24/2014 10:48 PM, WaltS wrote:
> On 02/24/2014 10:24 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> Polly the Parrott wrote:
>>
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>
>>>> By default, Thunderbird checks for unsent messages (sitting in the
>>>> Outbox folder) when it loads, not when it exits.
>>>
>>> Thanks, but I need something that runs when exiting.
>>
>> Why are the items getting stuck in the Outbox folder instead of getting
>> sent immediately? Doesn't that mean you put Thunderbird into offline
>> mode or you don't have Internet access?
>>
>
>
> Because when you use "Send Later" they are put into the Outbox, to be
> sent the next time you start Thunderbird.
>
> I have "Always ask me when I go Online" checked, and get a pop-up when
> Thunderbird starts up asking, "Do you want to send your unsent messages
> now?". My choices are "Later" or "Send Now".
>
> If I remove the check mark, I have to go to the Outbox and send the
> message manually, or right-click on the Outbox and select "Send Unsent
> Messages".
>

Correction: You have to right-click the Outbox and select "Send Unsent
Messages". I don't see any way to select an individual message and send
it from the Outbox.

[VanguardLH]

WaltS wrote:

> On 02/24/2014 10:24 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> Polly the Parrott wrote:
>>
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>
>>>> By default, Thunderbird checks for unsent messages (sitting in the
>>>> Outbox folder) when it loads, not when it exits.
>>>
>>> Thanks, but I need something that runs when exiting.
>>
>> Why are the items getting stuck in the Outbox folder instead of getting
>> sent immediately? Doesn't that mean you put Thunderbird into offline
>> mode or you don't have Internet access?
>
> Because when you use "Send Later" they are put into the Outbox, to be
> sent the next time you start Thunderbird.

But since he stated that he wants to be prompted on exit of the
*current* session of Thunderbird then I figured he didn't deliberately
select Send Later (a feature in Thunderbird, not about the add-on by the
same name). If he wants to send them now then he should send later. Or
if he sends later then it is behooved upon him to remember to send
before exiting (by the method you explain next).

> I have "Always ask me when I go Online" checked, and get a pop-up when
> Thunderbird starts up asking, "Do you want to send your unsent messages
> now?". My choices are "Later" or "Send Now".

I'm also guessing that the OP doesn't leave Thunderbird always loaded to
continue polling his accounts. It's enough for him to find he has new
e-mails waiting whenever he chooses to next load Thunderbird. However,
by then those e-mails sitting in the Outbox might be too old. He
doesn't load Thunderbird very often and the interval between is too long
to bother sending those unsent e-mails in a later session of Tbird.

The OP needs a reminder that he chose to send later when he exits Tbird.
This compensates for his forgetfulness in sending them in the current
Tbird session. He may also be accustomed to other e-mail clients, like
Outlook, that will there are items sitting in the Outbox when that
e-mail is exited. He's come to rely on that safety net.

> If I remove the check mark, I have to go to the Outbox and send the
> message manually, or right-click on the Outbox and select "Send Unsent
> Messages".
>
> So I guess my question to the OP would be, why not write all the
> messages you want to send later, then use "Send Unsent Messages" before
> exiting Thunderbird, then exit Thunderbird.

It almost sounds like it might be a long time between when he composed
and pended the messages in the Outbox to when he next loads Tbird to get
the unsent prompt. That's why he needs a forgetfullness reminder on
exit. Waiting until whenever he next gets around to loading Tbird would
mean those unsent messages are stale and shouldn't be sent.

I search on "sent" in the config editor but nothing showed up where the
user could configure Tbird to prompt on exit regarding unsent messages
pending in the Outbox folder.

The Send Later add-on replaces the functionality of the "Send Later"
button shown in the new-mail compose window. When the user opts to send
later, and with the add-on, they would see a dialog letting them
configure how to delay the send operation. Alas, as with any scheduler,
it has to be running to be effective. That means Tbird would have to be
left loaded so the scheduler is available at the scheduled time. It
doesn't look like the OP wants to leave Tbird running all the time so he
can scheduled a delayed send.

I haven't found a config option to alter Tbird's behavior to prompt on
exit regarding unsent items. I haven't heard of an add-on to provide
that behavior. The Send Later add-on would do a delayed send but would
require Tbird be left running. Without an option, config setting, or
add-on to prompt on exit, about the only suggestion left is to use an
external app, like AutoHotkey or AutoIt, that scripts the "send unsent
messages" action, waits for some recognizable change to denote a status
meaning the action completed, and then exit Thunderbird. Alas, even
that could be difficult since I don't see a keyboard shortcut for "Send
Unsent Messages" content menu item for the Outbox folder.

There already exists a bug report asking for a prompt on exit for unsent
messages at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359136

It was opened back in 2006. Changes thereafter are irrelevant as the
issue itself was never addressed or even acknowledged. Since Mozilla
has stopped all development on Thunderbird other than security fixes or
updates from other products they can just roll into Thunderbird, there
will be no new features. That means this open ticket will not get
resolve and, if anything, will get closed without resolution. What the
OP wants won't happen unless someone writes an add-on to modify the
routines ran by Tbird when it exits but I don't know if add-ons can dig
in that far.

[VanguardLH]

Polly the Parrott wrote:

> I prefer to do replies and "Send Later", just a personal preference.
> By "Send Later" I want to send prior to closing Thunderbird. Quite
> often I forget.

That's what I figured in my reply to Walt. I noted there exists a bug
ticket requesting a prompt on exit feature for unsent messages dated
back in 2006 but didn't see anyone from Mozilla even looked at it.
Mozilla stopped doing any feature enhancements on Thunderbird back in
July 2012. What you get is all there will be.

I haven't seen an option to prompt on exit. I didn't find a setting
using the config editor that would enable a prompt on exit. I haven't
found an add-on to watch for an exit event in Thunderbird to prompt
before exit. I didn't even find a keyboard shortcut for "Send Unsent
Messages" on the Outbox folder so you might get in the habit of hitting
the hotkey before exiting Tbird (or use a script to do it and then
exit).

There is an old (last updated in March 2011) key config add-on that
would let you add keyboard shortcuts but the author doesn't list even at
his own web site the 42 actions he says his add-on will handle (so
there's no way to know if "Send Unsent Messages" is an available
action). Guess he thinks users are going to read his code to get a list
of actions. Considering he hasn't updated in 3 years, I suspect it's
yet another abandoned add-on that Mozilla keeps on their list but should
be removed. Although I selected Thunderbird and searched on "key",
Mozilla insists on listing add-ons for Firefox, so I'm not sure this
add-on works with Thunderbird.

[Onno Ekker]

Hi,
The MagicSLR add-on has an option to prompt or automatically send at
Thunderbird shutdown...
See <https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/magicslr> and
<http://www.thunderbird-mail.de/wiki/MagicSLR_%28English%29#At_Shutdown>
Onno

[David E. Ross]

I have the MagicSLR extension. I just tested it. It does not work.
Although I selected the radio button for "Ask me if I to send my unsent
messages" under "At program shutdown", I did not get any prompt for a
test "send later" message sitting in my Outbox.

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[Onno Ekker]

On 2/26/2014 6:30 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 2/25/2014 8:13 AM, Onno Ekker wrote:
>> On 2/24/2014 8:30 PM, Polly the Parrott wrote:
>>> Scenario.
>>>
>>> Unsent mail in Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> Close Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> Add on pops up message "Do you want to send unsent mail before
>>> closing?" or similar.
>>>
>>> Is there such an add on?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> The MagicSLR add-on has an option to prompt or automatically send at
>> Thunderbird shutdown...
>> See <https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/magicslr> and
>> <http://www.thunderbird-mail.de/wiki/MagicSLR_%28English%29#At_Shutdown>
>> Onno
>>
>
> I have the MagicSLR extension. I just tested it. It does not work.
> Although I selected the radio button for "Ask me if I to send my unsent
> messages" under "At program shutdown", I did not get any prompt for a
> test "send later" message sitting in my Outbox.
>

I saw a user review claiming that it doesn't work too.
Maybe it depends on the setting on Tools -> Options -> Network & Disk
Space -> Offline? Or maybe it's really borken...

Onno