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Kill file in Thunderbird?

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gapka

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 7:31:462013. 11. 10.
I just read an article on kill files in newsreader's software. Searching
the web I have found that the killfile feature is not available on
Thunderbird, but all search results were rather old (7-8 years).

So the question is: has that feature been added to Thunderbird?


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gapka

Peter Taylor

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 7:38:232013. 11. 10.
It's been available for a long time. I use self control myself.

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Peter Taylor

gapka

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 7:42:402013. 11. 10.
On 11/10/2013 02:38 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
>
> It's been available for a long time. I use self control myself.
>

Can you elaborate on this?
How can I use the kill file?

Didn't find anything relevant in the documentation.

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gapka

Peter Taylor

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 7:57:492013. 11. 10.
Select the message of the person you want to kill file. Go to
Message/Create Filter From Message and choose Delete Message which is
chosen by default.

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Peter Taylor

Wolf K.

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 8:50:332013. 11. 10.
"Kill file" is now a confusing term. It dates back to the antediluvian
age of personal computing. Filters manually created text files, hence
the term.

I know, I know, pedantry. Buy I like odd facts like these. ;-)
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Best,
Wolf K.
kirkwood40.blogspot.ca

Mike Easter

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 9:32:002013. 11. 10.
gapka wrote:
> Peter Taylor wrote:
>>
>> It's been available for a long time. I use self control myself.
>>
>
> Can you elaborate on this?
> How can I use the kill file?
>
> Didn't find anything relevant in the documentation.

A killfile in the context of newsreaders (or mail agents) is a set of
filter criteria which alter your view of the available message items so
as to interfere with that view to make certain messages seem to
'disappear' or not be available or alternatively to cause those messages
to be read.

Some newsreaders incorporate strong algorithms which involve scoring,
regular expressions, and wildcards; but Tb does not. Tb relies on its
spam management for mail and message filters for news messages.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Filters_(Thunderbird) Message Filters

Access the filter rules function: Tools/ Message filters and the
settings affect a file msgFilterRules.dat and its actions affect a log
file filterlog.html

Personally, as PT said, I would rather simply mentally ignore messages
fulfilling certain criteria than algorithmically cause them to disappear
or present as already read.



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Mike Easter

gapka

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 9:51:502013. 11. 10.
Thank you all for your kind and knowledgeable responds. I am a real
newbie in this Usenet world and Thunderbird (aka Icedove) is the reader
that I use because it is already open all the time for emails. Filters
are all that I need. Thanks.


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gapka

Chris Ilias

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 12:04:312013. 11. 10.
In the header pane, click on the sender' name/address. You'll get a menu
of options like "Add to Address Book", "Compose Message To", etc. Select
"Create Filter From".

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Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator

Ron Hunter

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 14:29:552013. 11. 10.
Not true!
Find the 'from' address, on the right side of the message header area of
a displayed message. Point to it, and right-click. Select 'create
filter from message, then click OK. Done.
Enjoy.

Ron Hunter

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 10. 14:32:122013. 11. 10.
I would agree for most message in these groups, but there are some
groups where I just don't want to see the crude, rude, and often obscene
posts of some people, so the killfile is used, very selectively in my
case, but I do have a few people in my list.

Moe DeLoughan

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 12. 9:15:212013. 11. 12.
On 11/10/2013 8:32 AM, Mike Easter wrote:
> gapka wrote:
>> Peter Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> It's been available for a long time. I use self control myself.
>>>
>>
>> Can you elaborate on this?
>> How can I use the kill file?
>>
>> Didn't find anything relevant in the documentation.

> Access the filter rules function: Tools/ Message filters and the
> settings affect a file msgFilterRules.dat and its actions affect a log
> file filterlog.html

You can also create custom filters in Thunderbird. In my experience,
the majority of cross-posting is done by cranks and kooks, so I
created a filter that looks for a comma in the newsgroup field. If it
finds the comma (which separates the newsgroups for crossposting), it
deletes the message. Works for me.

NFN Smith

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 12. 10:22:142013. 11. 12.
Filters are what you want.

In this context, "kill file" is a generic term, where it's been taken
from other newsreaders. But the concept is valid.

In Thunderbird, you can manually kill a thread (mark all messages in
thread as read, and in the future, don't display any additional messages
in the thread) with the 'K' key, and you can kill a sub-thread with Shift-k.

However a true "kill file" (to do the same kinds of things
automatically) is something you're going to need to do with filters.

Smith


Ron Hunter

olvasatlan,
2013. nov. 12. 11:59:292013. 11. 12.
But it is easy, just click 'create filter from message, and it will
default to putting that user in a killfile, which is to say adding him
to a filter to delete list. Right click on the sender's address in the
header of the message, and then select 'create filter from message',
then click 'OK'. Done.

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