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TpL

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Aug 24, 2006, 6:43:45 PM8/24/06
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Hi gang!

It takes eeeeeons for thurnderbird to download my messages in the
inbox.

When it does it takes i get some very old (2004!) ones over and over,
along with some new ones on a good day.

Once it is open for a while, when i do open a message, i get a blank
screen. Even if the message was just viewed but a few minutes before.

My outgoing messages are fine.

My isp cannot figure this out and have been very patient checking
things out.

i tried chatzilla but well don't get how it works! helllp please!

TpL

Nir

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Aug 24, 2006, 6:50:58 PM8/24/06
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Completely close Thunderbird.
Goto your profile folder (
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile#Thunderbird ).
Open 'mail' folder , goto that mail account folder.
delete all '.msf' files.
restart Thunderbird

TpL

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Aug 24, 2006, 7:54:20 PM8/24/06
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Thank Nir!

Still not working!
I noticed another post on this topic and is seems that this did not
work for them either! I did not see the final solution noted there
though!

any other ideas.

cheers
t

Nir

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Aug 24, 2006, 8:06:45 PM8/24/06
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Please bottom post in this newsgroup. Thanks.

I think you are facing two problems :
1.repeated download of old messages - caused by
corrupted 'popstate.dat' file ( located in profile
folder )

2."when i do open a message, i get a blank.." -
caused by corrupted '.msf' files.
First compact folders through File>Compact Folders.
if it doesn't works then , goto profile folder ,
open mail folder , delete all '.msf' files
( also rename 'XUL.mfl' to 'XUL.mfl.bakup' )
Start Thunderbird.


Nir

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Aug 24, 2006, 8:09:11 PM8/24/06
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Completely close Thunderbird.
delete or rename or move this file.
Start Thunderbird .

TpL

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Aug 24, 2006, 8:19:22 PM8/24/06
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ok! i deleted them all


>
> 2."when i do open a message, i get a blank.." -
> caused by corrupted '.msf' files.
> First compact folders through File>Compact Folders.

I do not know how to do this one!

> if it doesn't works then , goto profile folder ,
> open mail folder , delete all '.msf' files

Got all these msf!

> ( also rename 'XUL.mfl' to 'XUL.mfl.bakup' )

the only one i could find is in mozilla not thunderbird

> Start Thunderbird.

I really appreciate your help. I reopened thunderbird and it is still
taking for ever for the mail to come in. My guess is still the old
messages will appear!

TpL

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Aug 24, 2006, 8:29:41 PM8/24/06
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Ok!

took 15 minutes for the inbox to load messages

same old messages as before

no new messages until i wen to the get mail - drop down menu and
selected the address!

ahhhhh!

right - don't panic

and

John McWilliams

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Aug 24, 2006, 8:52:07 PM8/24/06
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Deleting everything as a mixture of top and bottom posting results in
confusion.

All you need to do is delete the Popstate.dat file with Thunderbird shut
down. Wait until all messages are downloaded. Then quit and restart T-bird.

--
John McWilliams

TpL

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Aug 24, 2006, 9:12:30 PM8/24/06
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sorry about that john!

the postate.dat file has been deleted with thunderbird shut down.

all the msf files are now gone with thunderbird shut down

it takes more than 15min for the inbox to fill.

Still getting old messages.

I do not even get the pword propt right away.

TpL

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Aug 24, 2006, 10:36:32 PM8/24/06
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well i did what these folks suggested - Inbox is ruined
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=301176

i lost a ton of stuff though! :(

but hell the inbox friggin' works! Seems like quite a few people are
having this problem.

TpL

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Aug 24, 2006, 10:56:32 PM8/24/06
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
it is starting all over again! And somehow everything came back!

gwtc

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Aug 25, 2006, 2:24:27 AM8/25/06
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TpL wrote:

> Nir wrote:
>> First compact folders through File>Compact Folders.
>
> I do not know how to do this one!
>

click on File, then Compact Folders

--
Amazingly Simple Home Remedies . . .

If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, after which
you'll be afraid to cough.

TpL

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Aug 25, 2006, 8:06:42 AM8/25/06
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i eventually figured it out thanx! Still not resolved though!

Nir

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Aug 25, 2006, 9:17:35 AM8/25/06
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It should be present in Thunderbird profile . In
windows version , this file is named as 'XUL.mfl'
and in Linux , it is named as 'xul.mfasl'.
you may find more information about this file at :
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile#Files

Paul S Wolf

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Aug 25, 2006, 9:25:29 AM8/25/06
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Some other things to try:

Open your e-mailbox on the remote server using a web-based mail
interface, such as mail2web.com, and delete the messages from the server
there. That should at least stop the repetitive downloads of old messages.

Make sure your "inbox" and popstate.dat files aren't marked "read only".

Make sure the "Account Settings - Server Settings" check box for "Leave
messages on Server" is NOT checked.

--
Paul S. Wolf, P.E. mailto:paul....@alum.wpi.edu

Nir

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Aug 25, 2006, 9:25:33 AM8/25/06
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TpL wrote:
> John McWilliams wrote:
>> Deleting everything as a mixture of top and bottom posting results in
>> confusion.
>>
>> All you need to do is delete the Popstate.dat file with Thunderbird shut
>> down. Wait until all messages are downloaded. Then quit and restart T-bird.
>>
>> --
>> John McWilliams
>
> sorry about that john!
>
> the postate.dat file has been deleted with thunderbird shut down.
>
> all the msf files are now gone with thunderbird shut down
>
> it takes more than 15min for the inbox to fill.
>
> Still getting old messages.
>
> I do not even get the pword propt right away.
>
>
>

Again, Please try to bottom post in this
newsgroup. Thanks.

Do you have more than one profile?If yes, please
select right profile folder and delete '.msf'
files and 'Popstate.dat' file from that
problematic account folder , ( located in 'mail'
folder ) *when Thunderbird is completely closed*

TpL

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Aug 25, 2006, 9:58:43 AM8/25/06
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Sorry about the emails!

Now it won't even open :(

Which is a scarry thought!

the error message i get is:

"thunderbird is already running but is not responding. To open a new
window you must close the existing thunderbird process or restart."

That is in fact what I just did!

Nir

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Aug 25, 2006, 10:07:51 AM8/25/06
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Press 'ctrl+alt+delete'. it will open 'Task
Manager window'. Under 'process' tab , try to find
out any firefox process that is still running. If
yes, then select that process and press 'end
task'. Try to start Thunderbird.
If you can't find any such process there, goto
your profile folder and delete 'parent.lock' file .
Try to start Thunderbird.

[http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_in_use]

TpL

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Aug 25, 2006, 10:16:58 AM8/25/06
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i threw in the towel!

i renamed the thunderbird profile and moved it. I then downloaded a
new version wich works just fine.

i would however like to reclaim my local folder & my sent folder if
possible. Is this just a matter of moving them over from the old
profile to the new profile?

cheers
TpL

John McWilliams

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Aug 27, 2006, 10:56:31 AM8/27/06
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TpL wrote:
> i threw in the towel!
>
> i renamed the thunderbird profile and moved it. I then downloaded a
> new version wich works just fine.
>
> i would however like to reclaim my local folder & my sent folder if
> possible. Is this just a matter of moving them over from the old
> profile to the new profile?
>

Yes. But note:

>>>> Again, Please try to bottom post in this
>>>> newsgroup. Thanks.
>>>>

In fact, this is one of those things where "there is no try" You do, or
you don't. Please do.
--
John McWilliams

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