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Daddy

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Aug 11, 2010, 2:40:42 PM8/11/10
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Why is there an orange star next to each newsgroup post [TB 2.0.0.24]
and how do I remove it? Thanks.

Daddy

Bill Braun

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Aug 11, 2010, 2:45:17 PM8/11/10
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TB 2.0.0.24

Over here the orange star indicates that the message has not been read
(or touched). Once read, the orange star disappears.

Do you have the view set to show unread only? If so, the next time you
have messages in the group, switch to "All" and you will see that it is
only the unread messages that are orange starred.

Bill B

Mike Easter

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Aug 11, 2010, 3:02:10 PM8/11/10
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Daddy wrote:
> Why is there an orange star next to each newsgroup post [TB 2.0.0.24]
> and how do I remove it? Thanks.

Tbird icons

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Icons_-_Thunderbird_2 Icons - Thunderbird 2


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Daddy

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Aug 11, 2010, 3:43:05 PM8/11/10
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Thanks for your help. The orange star, according to Mozilla, means that
the post is "New", which is just another way of saying 'unread'.

However, unread posts are bolded, making the orange star redundant. Any
way to get rid of that orange star?

Daddy

Bill Braun

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Aug 11, 2010, 4:05:44 PM8/11/10
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To the best of my knowledge, which is scant at best, you could try
finding an extension, or failing that, write one.

Bill B

Mike Easter

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Aug 11, 2010, 4:11:43 PM8/11/10
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Daddy wrote:

>> Why is there an orange star next to each newsgroup post [TB 2.0.0.24]
>> and how do I remove it? Thanks.

> Thanks for your help. The orange star, according to Mozilla, means that

> the post is "New", which is just another way of saying 'unread'.
>
> However, unread posts are bolded, making the orange star redundant. Any
> way to get rid of that orange star?

From my observation, not from anything I've read:

There is a difference between unread bolded and new orange star.

When I go to/ focus on/ a particular newsgroup, such as this one, the
messages which weren't there in the headers the last time I visited have
an orange star and of course are bolded because I haven't read them.

If I leave the group without reading any messages to visit another group
and come back to the first group, the unread messages are still bolded,
but the message/s which previously had an orange star do *not* because
they are not /new/ anymore - they are old because they were there when I
visited last time.

If I read a message, its orange star and its bolding disappear.

I'm referring to 2.0.0.24, I haven't experimented on this with 3.1.2 -
and I view my messages unthreaded almost always.


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Mike Easter

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Aug 11, 2010, 4:19:07 PM8/11/10
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Mike Easter wrote:

> There is a difference between unread bolded and new orange star.

> I'm referring to 2.0.0.24, I haven't experimented on this with 3.1.2 -

This article discusses the color and theme changes for Tb3

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_3.0_-_New_Features_and_Changes/Themes

Specifically see:

3 Folder Pane
* 3.1 Color for New Mail

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Daddy

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Aug 11, 2010, 5:37:00 PM8/11/10
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It's a subtle difference, between a 'new' unread message and a not-new
unread message. But I get it.

I should have mentioned that I'm using FF 2.0.0.24.

The orange (gold?) star doesn't bother me enough to write an extension,
if that's what it would take.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Daddy

Greywolf

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Aug 11, 2010, 6:08:36 PM8/11/10
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On 11/08/2010 17:37, Daddy wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>>> There is a difference between unread bolded and new orange star.
>>
>>> I'm referring to 2.0.0.24, I haven't experimented on this with 3.1.2 -
>>
>> This article discusses the color and theme changes for Tb3
>>
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Thunderbird_3.0_-_New_Features_and_Changes/Themes
>>
>>
>> Specifically see:
>>
>> 3 Folder Pane
>> * 3.1 Color for New Mail
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's a subtle difference, between a 'new' unread message and a not-new
> unread message. But I get it.

Subtle, yes. Useful, no.

[...]

David Pyles

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Aug 11, 2010, 6:54:03 PM8/11/10
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Try clicking the little icon at the right end of the column headers on
the messages headers pane (What's that pane called, the one at the top
in the "Classic view?) and unselecting the "Read" column.

Did that do what you wanted?

Dave Pyles

George

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Aug 11, 2010, 7:22:04 PM8/11/10
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Click the icon at the right end of the column headers on the messages headers
pane and unselect the "Starred" column.

GC

g

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Aug 11, 2010, 7:22:17 PM8/11/10
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On 08/11/2010 10:54 PM, David Pyles wrote:
<snip>

> Try clicking the little icon at the right end of the column headers on
> the messages headers pane (What's that pane called, the one at the top
> in the "Classic view?) and unselecting the "Read" column.
>
> Did that do what you wanted?

that removes 'read' column, which has large green or small gray dots.

what 'daddy' is talking about appears in under 'subject' column.


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Aug 11, 2010, 9:40:34 PM8/11/10
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On 08/11/2010 06:40 PM, Daddy wrote:
> Why is there an orange star next to each newsgroup post [TB 2.0.0.24]
> and how do I remove it? Thanks.

i believe this has been gone thru before for emails. do not recall, nor
find a thread for it, simbie.

a suggestion to remove what i would call a 'sun burst' in *subject* column,
that works for emails is;

highlight folder that contains *new* icons, then highlight another news
folder. this will also remove *new* icon at folder in tree to left.

with emails, that will turn off *new* icon. may work for newsgroups.


hth.

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Ken Whiton

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Aug 12, 2010, 4:32:05 AM8/12/10
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*-* On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, at 18:54:03 -0400,
*-* In Article <beqdnR3Tv_SOt_7R...@mozilla.org>,
*-* David Pyles wrote
*-* About Re: Orange Star Next to Each Post

[ ... ]

> Try clicking the little icon at the right end of the column headers
> on the messages headers pane (What's that pane called, the one at
> the top in the "Classic view?)

It's called the Thread Pane.

<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Window_layout_-_Thunderbird>

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g

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Aug 12, 2010, 7:18:13 AM8/12/10
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within which, 2 icons are left out. maybe more?

no icon for 'new, unread' or 'columns'.

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Mike Easter

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Aug 12, 2010, 8:56:25 AM8/12/10
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g wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Daddy wrote:
>>> Why is there an orange star next to each newsgroup post [TB 2.0.0.24]
>>> and how do I remove it? Thanks.
>> Tbird icons
>>
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Icons_-_Thunderbird_2 Icons - Thunderbird 2
>
>
> within which, 2 icons are left out. maybe more?
>
> no icon for 'new, unread' or 'columns'.

I don't understand what you mean.

What concept are you trying to express?

We are discussing the concept of the orange star 'new' icon. How would
an icon for columns or unread work?

An icon is supposed to mean something about the message it marks. What
would a columns icon mean?

Or said another way (the way I see it); we have an orange star for new,
we don't need an icon for columns or unread for two different reasons.
In the case of columns, there isn't anything about columns that pertains
to a message. In the case of unread, we have another way of displaying that.

How do /you/ see it?


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Daddy

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Aug 12, 2010, 1:34:03 PM8/12/10
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I don't have the 'Read' column showing. The star appears in the
'Subject' column.

Daddy

Daddy

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Aug 12, 2010, 1:38:05 PM8/12/10
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Just to make it clear to everyone...not addressed to anyone in
particular: The star is prepended to the subject in the Subject column.
It does not appear in a separate column of its own.

Daddy

clay

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Aug 12, 2010, 2:45:27 PM8/12/10
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I haven't tried it in TB but wfm in other programs.
When a program is playing a tune or using a graphic and I can't find
where to turn it off... I edit or replace the file.
Replace the midi or wav with an empty one. Edit the png or bmp or
whatever and make it blank.

David Pyles

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Aug 12, 2010, 2:56:30 PM8/12/10
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The icon in the subject column is theme dependent. You could try to
find a theme with a less intrusive icon. I'm using the "Nuvola" theme
which uses an envelope with red corners for unread messages.
Dave Pyles

g

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Aug 12, 2010, 2:23:25 PM8/12/10
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On 08/12/2010 12:56 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
> g wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> Daddy wrote:
>>>> Why is there an orange star next to each newsgroup post [TB 2.0.0.24]
>>>> and how do I remove it? Thanks.
>>> Tbird icons
>>>
>>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Icons_-_Thunderbird_2 Icons - Thunderbird 2
>>
>> within which, 2 icons are left out. maybe more?
>>
>> no icon for 'new, unread' or 'columns'.


> I don't understand what you mean.
>
> What concept are you trying to express?

your post, quoted above, gives link to 'thunderbird icons' page.

in said page, are listings for icons used in thunderbird.

*orange star* icon, cka, *new* icon for new email, is found under
'subject' column, in thread pane. [my error in using term 'new, unread']

*columns* icon, found in right most position of column headers, above
'scroll bar' [if to right side thread pane], is not presented on
'thunderbird icons' page.


> We are discussing the concept of the orange star 'new' icon. How would
> an icon for columns or unread work?

i am aware of what is being discussed, as i have been following thread.

actually, it is not a *star*. more like a *sun burst*.


> An icon is supposed to mean something about the message it marks. What
> would a columns icon mean?

*columns* icon is what others have suggested 'daddy' click to remove
*orange star* column.


> Or said another way (the way I see it); we have an orange star for new,
> we don't need an icon for columns or unread for two different reasons.

then maybe now you will see things differently now.

it is not a *star* 'daddy' is seeing in 'subject' column. there is a
*star* column, which is totally unrelated to 'new' email. at least
in v 2.0.0.24.

there is an 'unread' column, which contains a large green dot icon which
changes to a small gray dot icon when email is read or green dot icon is
clicked. clicking gray dot icon will return a green dot icon.

*columns* icon is permanent. it is there for selecting columns to display
in thread pane.


> In the case of columns, there isn't anything about columns that pertains
> to a message. In the case of unread, we have another way of displaying that.

there are default columns, displayed in a drop-down selection, when
"columns" icon is clicked;
*thread*, *starred*, *read*, *recipient*, *subject*, *junk status*,
*sender*, *date*, *status*, *size*, *tag*, *account*,*priority*, *unread*,
*total*, *order received*

all of which pertain to a message. there is even an add-on to increase column
titles if one so wishes.

if you where using a 3.x version, i would recommend you use;

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/9716/

which gives v2.x columns, but your headers show you to be using 2.0.0.24.


hth.


> How do /you/ see it?

how do i see what?

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g

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Aug 12, 2010, 2:28:28 PM8/12/10
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On 08/12/2010 05:38 PM, Daddy wrote:
<snip>

> Just to make it clear to everyone...not addressed to anyone in
> particular: The star is prepended to the subject in the Subject column.
> It does not appear in a separate column of its own.

thank you.

to clear up another point, you are using word *star*, would *sun burst*
not be a better description?

granted, our sun is a star, but graphically there is a different.

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