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Campbell

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Jan 31, 2008, 6:08:32 AM1/31/08
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Is there _any_ way to view the Outlook/Exchange categories within
Thunderbird? My work uses Outlook and I've always used been the
exception, using Thunderbird as I much prefer it. Unfortunately they've
decided to start using Categories within Outlook, and I also need access
to these. Thunderbird has it's own Tags which use the IMAP spec, but MS
being MS seem to have their own method.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Campbell

gNeandr

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Jan 31, 2008, 9:04:20 AM1/31/08
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On 31.01.2008 12:08 »Campbell« wrote
Hi,
there is an TB extension named:
MoreFunctionsForAddressBook
https://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/morecols-en.html

which has the TB-category field enabled for TB-addressbook (only!!).

You can use the categories there and make also the search field sensible
for search with category entries. For that you have to setup an extended
search term in the user.js (see profile dir):

user_pref("mail.addr_book.quicksearchquery.format",
"?(or(PrimaryEmail,c,@V)(DisplayName,c,@V)(FirstName,c,@V)(LastName,c,@V)(Category,c,@V))");

Hope it helps
Günter

ovidiu

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Jan 31, 2008, 12:59:17 PM1/31/08
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If this is for the contacts, see above. If for mails see next:
tags, category, labels etc from various places are not compatible and
there is no actual standard on this, AFAIK. So is not MS or Moz to be
using a standard, but rather a decision of yours (company..).

If this is for an equivalent of tags, there is probably a header tag in
those mails, and even if you don't have a special tool for it by
default, may still be able to at least view that 'line' ,if not to
search or use it somehow. For this to test:
- first get a mail that has that 'category' from somebody
- see view/headers->all so that you can see all the lines there
-can you identify the line that refferes to the category?
if so, can move on with various experiments depending on what you need.
Cannot say how hard or easy could be to achieve but you never know.. So
get back with details on what is that 'mark' and maybe can work something..

[note: I'm thinking of something like
*trying to get the line to always appear in the 'normal' header
*try to create an identifier or a sorter in the thread pane
(list)[hmm..], colour or other visual style for those messages
*a search for those so that can be saved etc
*even to maybe create such header tag for outgoing mail (tough one..)]

gNeandr

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Jan 31, 2008, 2:16:32 PM1/31/08
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On 31.01.2008 18:59 »ovidiu« wrote

> If this is for the contacts, see above. If for mails see next:
> tags, category, labels etc from various places are not compatible and
> there is no actual standard on this, AFAIK. So is not MS or Moz to be
> using a standard, but rather a decision of yours (company..).
> ...

> [note: I'm thinking of something like
> *trying to get the line to always appear in the 'normal' header
> *try to create an identifier or a sorter in the thread pane
> (list)[hmm..], colour or other visual style for those messages
> *a search for those so that can be saved etc
> *even to maybe create such header tag for outgoing mail (tough one..)]

@ovidiu ... or others which may have details about ...
... how MS is using those 'category' with Outlook!??

Maybe someone has details / references ... etc ... where to find those
cats in the msg header??
Günter

gNeandr

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Jan 31, 2008, 5:31:37 PM1/31/08
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On 31.01.2008 20:16 »gNeandr« wrote

> On 31.01.2008 18:59 »ovidiu« wrote
....

> @ovidiu   ... or others which may have details about  ...
> ... how MS is using those 'category' with Outlook!??
>
> Maybe someone has details / references ... etc ... where to find those
> cats in the msg header??
> Günter

Here is a part of a msg header copied from a msg send by an IMAP account using Outlook 2003:

Subject: categories set with IMAP account
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:14:00 +0100
Keywords: test, IMAP
Message-ID: <000a01c8645$64b2a8c0@GTER>

I could not find any information/definition about those 'Keywords'. Not with Google, not using the http://lxr.mozilla.org/ pages.

At the Outlook side with the 'New' composing a msg, those two words shown above I added with the OL function: "View" --> "Options" to open the "Message Options". There is the field "Categories". Enter just manually or by menu separated by semicolon. The mneu items are the very standard OL Categories (also used with addressbook etc ..)

But within TB I didn't found a programmatic way to access those "Keywords".

Maybe David Bienvenu is around to point to some possible solutions  ;-) ??

Günter

gNeandr

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Jan 31, 2008, 5:32:18 PM1/31/08
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gNeandr

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Jan 31, 2008, 5:33:40 PM1/31/08
to David Bienvenu
On 31.01.2008 20:16 »gNeandr« wrote
> On 31.01.2008 18:59 »ovidiu« wrote
....

> @ovidiu ... or others which may have details about ...
> ... how MS is using those 'category' with Outlook!??
>
> Maybe someone has details / references ... etc ... where to find those
> cats in the msg header??
> Günter

Here is a part of a msg header copied from a msg send by an IMAP account
using Outlook 2003:

Subject: categories set with IMAP account
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:14:00 +0100
Keywords: test, IMAP
Message-ID: <000a01c8645$64b2a8c0@GTER>

I could not find any information/definition about those 'Keywords'. Not
with Google, not using the http://lxr.mozilla.org/ pages.

At the Outlook side with the 'New' composing a msg, those two words
shown above I added with the OL function: "View" --> "Options" to open
the "Message Options". There is the field "Categories". Enter just
manually or by menu separated by semicolon. The mneu items are the very
standard OL Categories (also used with addressbook etc ..)

But within TB I didn't found a programmatic way to access those "Keywords".

Maybe David Bienvenu is around to point to some possible solutions ;) ??

gNeandr

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Jan 31, 2008, 5:33:49 PM1/31/08
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On 31.01.2008 20:16 »gNeandr« wrote
> On 31.01.2008 18:59 »ovidiu« wrote
....

> @ovidiu ... or others which may have details about ...
> ... how MS is using those 'category' with Outlook!??
>
> Maybe someone has details / references ... etc ... where to find those
> cats in the msg header??
> Günter

Here is a part of a msg header copied from a msg send by an IMAP account

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