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brenda sconyers

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Sep 7, 2010, 8:49:26 PM9/7/10
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I have used Thunderbird many times in the past to mail to my customer
based. I was not using gmail. Last night I attempted a bulk email,
greater than 500 names. The error message was smtp.gmail does not
recognize the addresses. I tried again this morning with a much
smaller group, and received the same message.

Both of these email are frozen, I can not delete them, nor can I
scroll to the bottom to change anything. Both contain time sensitive
information, I need to be able to delete the messages. The
invitations will arrive too late.

Please let me know what to do.

I understand now that gmail will not allow large mailings. I am
exploring using charter email.

thanks so much,
brenda

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Sep 7, 2010, 9:01:14 PM9/7/10
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brenda sconyers wrote:

> I have used Thunderbird many times in the past to mail to my customer
> based. I was not using gmail. Last night I attempted a bulk email,
> greater than 500 names.

500 names puts you into the spam filters. That's why it failed.

Hopefully, you placed the names in the BCC field to observe the privacy
of those 500+ people. To do otherwise would be a gross mistake.

> The error message was smtp.gmail does not recognize the addresses. I
> tried again this morning with a much smaller group, and received the
> same message.

If the error message said "smtp.gmail" then you *were* using gmail to
send.

> Both of these email are frozen, I can not delete them, nor can I
> scroll to the bottom to change anything. Both contain time sensitive
> information, I need to be able to delete the messages. The
> invitations will arrive too late.
>
> Please let me know what to do.

Highlight, drag to Trash?

> I understand now that gmail will not allow large mailings. I am
> exploring using charter email.

Do you mean a Charter cable email address? The same thing will happen.
You need a mailing service.

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Christoph Schmees

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Sep 8, 2010, 4:25:19 AM9/8/10
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty schrieb:

> brenda sconyers wrote:
>
>> I have used Thunderbird many times in the past to mail to my customer
>> based. I was not using gmail. Last night I attempted a bulk email,
>> greater than 500 names.
> ...

>
> Do you mean a Charter cable email address? The same thing will happen.
> You need a mailing service.
>

... or the extension "Mail Merge" or similar ones.
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/47144/

Christoph

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Ken Whiton

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Sep 8, 2010, 4:55:28 AM9/8/10
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*-* On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:25:19 +0200,
*-* In Article <M7GdnVBSa_zh2hrR...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Christoph Schmees wrote
*-* About Re: frozen emails

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty schrieb:
>> brenda sconyers wrote:
>
>>> I have used Thunderbird many times in the past to mail to my
>>> customer based. I was not using gmail. Last night I attempted a
>>> bulk email, greater than 500 names.
>> ...
>>
>> Do you mean a Charter cable email address? The same thing will
>> happen. You need a mailing service.
>
> ... or the extension "Mail Merge" or similar ones.
> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/47144/

Or <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/47144/>
for the (U. S.) English-language version.

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John H Meyers

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Sep 8, 2010, 6:17:22 AM9/8/10
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On 9/8/2010 3:25 AM, Christoph Schmees wrote:

> ... or the extension "Mail Merge" or similar ones.
> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/47144/

> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/47144/

You will be "rate limited" anyway by Gmail (and by other savvy ISPs);
that is, your daily total volume has a ceiling,
as well as the number of recipients per message.

At Gmail (and Google Apps), for example:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=22839
https://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=166852
http://groups.google.com/group/hosted-setup/msg/886d4150ac146425

Just a couple of other ISP links (any might be outdated):

http://www.emailquestions.com/verizon/1025-smtp-sending-limits-verizon-email.html
http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/email-rate-limit.html

"ISP Send Rate Limit & Restrictions" (find this heading within page)
http://urbanmarketingnetwork.com/blog/index.php/2009/03/13/improve-mass-email-deliverablity-the-long-way/

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