Thunderbird's minute display

[A. G. Birtles]

My aged eyes are finding it increasingly more difficult to cope with
the extremely small font used for the display on Thunderbird 52.5.2.
Is there now no way of adjusting its size any more other than by
reverting to an earlier version ?

[James Moe]

By "display" do you mean the Folder and Message panes? If so, there
are a couple of options.
The first is to install an addon like Theme and Font Size Changer.
Unfortunately that addon had become unreliable recently. It might work
for you.
The next option is more technical. You create a "chrome" directory in
your TB profile, add a file named "userChrome.css" with the changes to
the UI you desire.
If you cannot find a suitable addon, I will post the userChrome.css I
use on my TB installation.

--
James Moe
jmm-list at sohnen-moe dot com
Think.

[Al Lawrence]

James Moe via support-thunderbird wrote on 1/16/2018 1:08 PM:
> On 01/16/2018 10:43 AM, A. G. Birtles wrote:
> >

> By "display" do you mean the Folder and Message panes? If so, there
> are a couple of options.
> The first is to install an addon like Theme and Font Size Changer.
> Unfortunately that addon had become unreliable recently. It might work
> for you.
> The next option is more technical. You create a "chrome" directory in
> your TB profile, add a file named "userChrome.css" with the changes to
> the UI you desire.
> If you cannot find a suitable addon, I will post the userChrome.css I
> use on my TB installation.

Just post it.....

[Keith Nuttle]

> to an earlier version ?As mentioned there are ways to change the size of the Thunderbird fonts.

HOWEVER, remember that a lot of the fonts in Thunderbird are not
controlled by Thunderbird, but by the OS. So one of the first things
to try is work with the OS's defaullt fonts and font size.

[Reed]

On my Mac with TB 52.5.2 64bit, in TB's Config Editor, editing the
Value at layout.css.devPixelsPerPx causes ALL fonts in ALL panes in TB
to increase or decrease.

I use 1.25 to get a readable size for my 73 y/o eyes on a 17" screen. :-)

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/16/2018 at 12:51 PM, Good Guy created this epitome of digital genius:

> Try pressing
>
> CTRL+  keys together 5 or 6 times to enlarge the fonts.  This CTRL key
> and + key both pressed together.  this has the effect of magnifying the
> fonts in the body section of the message.
>
> If the UI fonts are small then this can be adjusted in the Operating
> System settings but first try one thing at a time.
>
>
>
> --
> With over 600 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
> satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

And CTRL/- to make smaller. And CTRL/0 to revert to default.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
I always take life with a grain of salt, plus a slice of lemon and a
shot of tequila.

[NoOp]

Have a look at:
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Font_settings_in_Thunderbird>
and
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird/customize-controls-options-and-add-ons>
(enter 'font' in the search box).

For an addon extension solution, try:
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/theme-font-size-changer-for-tb/>

[NoOp]

Sorry, I forgot to include the AMO link:
<http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faddons.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Fseamonkey%2Faddon%2Ftheme-font-size-changer-for-tb%2F&onlyMaxVersion=true>

[NoOp]

Oh man... I'm not doing so well today - my apologies. Here is the
correct link:
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/theme-font-size-changer-for-tb/?src=hp-dl-upandcoming>
(Works with Thunderbird 3.0b4 - 60.0)

[Caver1]

On 01/16/2018 02:39 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> On 1/16/2018 at 12:51 PM, Good Guy created this epitome of digital genius:
>> On 16/01/2018 17:43, A. G. Birtles wrote:
>>> My aged eyes are finding it increasingly more difficult to cope with
>>> the extremely small font used for the display on Thunderbird 52.5.2.
>>> Is there now no way of adjusting its size any more other than by
>>> reverting to an earlier version ?
>>
>> Try pressing
>>
>> CTRL+  keys together 5 or 6 times to enlarge the fonts.  This CTRL key
>> and + key both pressed together.  this has the effect of magnifying the
>> fonts in the body section of the message.
>>
>> If the UI fonts are small then this can be adjusted in the Operating
>> System settings but first try one thing at a time.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> With over 600 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
>> satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.
>
> And CTRL/- to make smaller. And CTRL/0 to revert to default.
>

Or even CTRL scroll wheel

--
Caver1

[Grant Taylor]

On 01/16/2018 11:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> Use Widows Accessibility Tools. There should be a Magnifier in there.

As much as I like tools to exist, an be readily accessible, I find it
nicer to not need the tool in the first place.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

[Chris]

"A. G. Birtles" <Alan.B...@ukgateway.net> Wrote in message:

I think you're getting some pretty irrelevant advice here.

Yes, message text can be zoomed, but would anyone really want to
have to keep zooming in on every message? You need a solution
that works once and sticks, and that means going to the
Tools|Options|Display|Advanced settings and adjusting the text
size there.

But this doesn't work for the menus and message lists. For these
areas, the usual workaround is to use the Theme Font & Size
Changer addon. The fact that you said "no longer" hints to me
that you have been using this add-on, because it had some "time
bomb" code and stopped working on 5th Jan.

Since the non functioning is related to the add-on and not
Thunderbird, reverting to an earlier version of Thunderbird won't
necessarily help you. You'd have to revert both Thunderbird and
the addon to earlier versions, and I am not going to advise
anyone to use older unpatched software.

The good news is the the add-on has now been repaired, so you can
update it and resume working with reasonable display font sizes.


I don't know if this situation will recur in the future. Does the
new version of the add-on have a time bomb too? There are
alternatives, such as using a userChrome.css file to assert a
global font size, and a recent suggestion has emerged relating to
the use of a dpi-related setting in the Config Editor. Just enter
dpi into the Config Editor's search box and you'll find it. The
addon is no longer supported for Linux, so we Linux users have to
use an alternative method. My choice is the userChrome.css file.


I'd also suggest that the first step in all of this is to get your
display's dpi setting optimal. Linux allows you to set it
explicitly. Windows and MacOS give you some mickey mouse scaling
adjustments which you may need to set to 125% or 150% on a modern
display.
--
Chris

[Bob Henson]

There's a program called advchange.exe which will let you change most
Windows fonts and font sizes and, as some have mentioned, they affect some
of Thunderbird's fonts.

The rest (and the most important) you can easily change with
userChrome.css. If you don't have a userChrome.css file you need to create
a directory called "chrome" under

c:\users\whateveryourusernameis\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\somethingorother.default

Obviously the user name and default directory have their own names on your
system - I just put those silly ones in as space markers.

In that chrome directory create a plain text file called userChrome.css
containing as follows (this is my actual file and works a treat for my old
eyes). This will create variable sized text and fonts in Thunderbird. I
like Verdana (change that font if you prefer something else) and the sizes
here (with Verdana) give very small folder fonts (10px) and slightly larger
thread fonts (11px). It will apply a few colours which make things clearer.




@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(unread) {
-moz-appearance: none !important;
color: #FF0000 !important;
}

treechildren::-moz-tree-row(selected) {
background-color: #FFFF00 !important;
}

treechildren:-moz-tree-cell-text(selected) {
color: #000000 !important;
}


#folderTree > treechildren {font-size: 10px; font-family: Verdana;}
#threadTree > treechildren {font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana;}
#dirTree > treechildren {font-size: 12px; font-family: Verdana;}
#abResultsTree > treechildren {font-size: 12px; font-family: Verdana

/* Adjust row height in Message pane */

#threadTree treechildren:-moz-tree-row {
height: 19px !important;
}




Then restart Thunderbird and you should have something better than before.
Change the sizes/types if you don't like it - and restart Thunderbird each
time to view the changes. Don't worry about messing things up - if you
don't like it at all, just remove the userChrome.css file and restart
Thunderbird - all will revert to the defaults.

Finally go to Thunderbird's menu > Options > Display > click the Advanced
button opposite the "default font" box, select Latin from the dropdown menu
at the top and set all the fonts to Verdana and all the sizes to 17. Set
both text encoding sections to Western (ISO-8859-1) Tick "use default text
in replies".

Select "Other Writing Systems" from the dropdown and repeat for that. If
any of your correspondents uses any other weird systems set those too.

You should now have a system with nicely sized, readable, plain fonts which
stay the same regardless of what silly fonts anyone else uses.



--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Keyboard - standard device for generating computer errors.

[Mike H]

Look at the post by David E Ross   1/6/2018  regarding Theme and Font
Changer.     It works for my TB V52.5.

[Wolf K]

On 2018-01-16 22:38, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 01/16/2018 11:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> Use Widows Accessibility Tools. There should be a Magnifier in there.
>
> As much as I like tools to exist, an be readily accessible, I find it
> nicer to not need the tool in the first place.

Agreed. Since font size is specified in a message, it should be easy for
Tbird to override any below a certain size. And do so automatically for
different screen resolutions. Such override will probably change the
placement of images, but that's a small price to pay IMO.

Take the "new look" survey, and add a suitable comment at the end. Along
the lines of"I want easier and more powerful customisability." There's
no technical reason Thunderbird can't override the font size in incoming
messages.

--
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"The next conference for the time travel design team will be held two
weeks ago."

[Maurice]

On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:13 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

> The rest (and the most important) you can easily change with
> userChrome.css.

"easily change"?? Well, as a newcomer to TBird I have not found it
almost impossible to e.g. change the font, colour or size of text in a
message body.
For example, in the following extract from a userChrome.css that I
'borrowed', I cannot see what the alternative settings are:

/**********************************************************/
/* MESSAGE PANE */
/**********************************************************/

#msgHeaderView .headerValue /* Message pane header "From"/"Subject"/"TO"
label */
{color: black !important; /* From/Subject/To data text color */
font-weight:bold !important;
}

#msgHeaderView /* Message pane header "Date"/"Time" */
{background-image:url("file:///F:/Backup/Persona/Header2.png") !important;
color:black !important;
font-weight:bold !important;
}

#msgHeaderView .headerName /* Message header pane labels */
{color: dimgrey !important;
}

Is there no Add-On or other GUI interface to facilitate that process?

Regards,
--
/\/\aurice (Using Tbird 64-bit version 52.5.2)
(Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email)

[Maurice]

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:54:57 -0800, NoOp wrote:

> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/theme-font-size-

changer-for-tb/?src=hp-dl-upandcoming>
> (Works with Thunderbird 3.0b4 - 60.0)

Thank you for that, and it works for most of the windows, but I was
looking for something that would adjust the message body text...

--
/\/\aurice

[WaltS48]

On 1/17/18 12:59 PM, Maurice wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:54:57 -0800, NoOp wrote:
>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/theme-font-size-
> changer-for-tb/?src=hp-dl-upandcoming>
>> (Works with Thunderbird 3.0b4 - 60.0)
> Thank you for that, and it works for most of the windows, but I was
> looking for something that would adjust the message body text...
>

Use the Zoom controls from the Menu bar or button, View > Zoom > Zoom
In, or the key combination Ctrl++ and enable Zoom Text Only.

In my experience you do it once and it is set for all messages.

[Good Guy]

On 17/01/2018 07:12, Chris wrote:

I think you're getting some pretty irrelevant advice here. 

Fortunately we have got a great thinker and distinguished expert such as yourself.  I wish we had more like like you around here.

[Good Guy]

On 17/01/2018 18:12, WaltS48 wrote:

In my experience you do it once and it is set for all messages.

But Chris said in one of his posts that "Yes, message text can be zoomed, but would anyone really want to
 have to keep zooming in on every message? "   Who are we to argue with an expert?

[NoOp]

On 1/17/2018 9:59 AM, Maurice wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:54:57 -0800, NoOp wrote:
>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/theme-font-size-
> changer-for-tb/?src=hp-dl-upandcoming>
>> (Works with Thunderbird 3.0b4 - 60.0)
>
> Thank you for that, and it works for most of the windows, but I was
> looking for something that would adjust the message body text...
>

Increase the Zoom in the extension: 1.25 w/font size 13 works for me on
my laptop.

[Bob Henson]

Maurice wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:13 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:
>
>> The rest (and the most important) you can easily change with
>> userChrome.css.
>
> "easily change"?? Well, as a newcomer to TBird I have not found it
> almost impossible to e.g. change the font, colour or size of text in a
> message body.

You change the body text from within Thunderbird's Options in the manner I
suggested at the end of my reply - it's the easiest bit of the lot.

> For example, in the following extract from a userChrome.css that I
> 'borrowed', I cannot see what the alternative settings are:
>
> /**********************************************************/
> /* MESSAGE PANE */
> /**********************************************************/
>
> #msgHeaderView .headerValue /* Message pane header "From"/"Subject"/"TO"
> label */
> {color: black !important; /* From/Subject/To data text color */
> font-weight:bold !important;
> }
>
> #msgHeaderView /* Message pane header "Date"/"Time" */
> {background-image:url("file:///F:/Backup/Persona/Header2.png") !important;
> color:black !important;
> font-weight:bold !important;
> }
>
> #msgHeaderView .headerName /* Message header pane labels */
> {color: dimgrey !important;
> }
>
> Is there no Add-On or other GUI interface to facilitate that process?
>
> Regards,

As far as I can see, that won't change the message body text - only the
headers etc. I think those are all dictated by Windows not Thunderbird -
although I'm not very technical. I managed to change the size of them (and
the weight) using advchange.exe - it's very simple to use and improves all
of Windows font and sizes - not just within Thunderbird. I found Windows 10
unusable without it on this HD monitor. I set all my Windows fonts to
Verdana and adjusted the sizes to suit.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Hypochondria - the only illness a hypochondriac thinks he or she doesn't
have.

[James Moe]

On 01/16/2018 11:39 AM, Al Lawrence wrote:
>> If you cannot find a suitable addon, I will post the userChrome.css I
>> use on my TB installation.
> Just post it.....
>

Okay.

/* do not remove this line */

@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

/* set default namespace to XUL */


/* Text In Tab Labels And Tool Bar(s)
*/
toolbar {
font-weight: normal !important;
font-size: 16px !important;
font-family: SkiaCC, Calibri, Segoe UI, sans-serif !important;
}

/* Menu font Top of the window: File/Edit etc
*/
menu, menulist, menuitem {
font-family: SkiaCC, sans-serif !important;
font-size: 16px !important;
}

/* Set Font Size In Folder Pane and Thread Pane
*/
#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
font-size: 16px !important;
font-family: SkiaCC, Calibri, Segoe UI Symbol, sans-serif !important;
}
#threadTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {
font-size: 17px !important;
font-family: SkiaCC, sans-serif !important;
}

/* After adjusting the font size(s), you find that the spacing between
the lines also needs adjusting, here's code to accomplish that.
*/
#folderTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-row {
height: 22px !important;
}
#threadTree >treechildren::-moz-tree-row {
height: 22px !important;
}

/* this changes the lines use in the headers to link threads
*/
tree[seltype="cell"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
tree[seltype="text"] > treechildren::-moz-tree-line,
treechildren::-moz-tree-line {
border: 1px dotted #006 !important;
}

/* normally when an email is selected, the folder turns from dark blue
background to light blue.
*/
/* Folderpane - Text fore- and background of folder when email is selected
*/
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected) {
/* background-color: #3a81cc !important; */
color: #cfc !important;
}

/* Folderpane - Text fore- and background color of folder when first
selected
*/
#folderTree treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected, focus) {
/* background-color: #3a81cc !important; */
color: white !important;
}

/* Change the colour of unread messages and containing folders
*/
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, hasUnreadMessages-true) {
color: #000 !important;
font-weight: bold !important;
}

/* Account with new mail
*/
#folderTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(isServer-true,
biffState-NewMail,) {
color: #000 !important;
font-weight: bold !important;
}

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Inbox,
newMessages-true) {
color: #360 !important;
font-weight: bold !important;

[WaltS48]

On 1/17/18 1:17 PM, Good Guy wrote:
> On 17/01/2018 18:12, WaltS48 wrote:
>>
>>
>> In my experience you do it once and it is set for all messages.
>>
>
> But Chris said in one of his posts that "Yes, message text can be
> zoomed, but would anyone really want to
>  have to keep zooming in on every message? "   Who are we to argue with
> an expert?
>
>
>

It appears to reset upon closing my Thunderbird, but I only had to use
the feature in one message, and it applied to all following messages
that I read.

It also may be dependent on the format of the sent message.

[WaltS48]

So A. G. Did any of the suggestions in the discussion work for you?

We seem to have not seen a response from you.

[Chris Ramsden]

On 17/01/18 20:32, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 1/17/18 1:17 PM, Good Guy wrote:
>> On 17/01/2018 18:12, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>
>>> In my experience you do it once and it is set for all messages.
>>
>> But Chris said in one of his posts that "Yes, message text can be zoomed, but would anyone really want to
>>   have to keep zooming in on every message? "   Who are we to argue with an expert?

There is excellent advice coming through from James Moe, Bob from Tetbury and NoOp, amongst others. There is no point my repeating what they have offered.

I won't have seen any of your postings first hand because you are in my kill file, and you will remain there until you remove that idiotic sig that conflates "using" with "satisfied". I am a reluctant but dissatisfied Windows 10 user, and I use it only when I am unable to use Linux.

>
> It appears to reset upon closing my Thunderbird, but I only had to use the feature in one message, and it applied to all following messages that I read.
>
> It also may be dependent on the format of the sent message.

Do you never have to re-adjust the zoom level for different messages?

Override what is in the messages with your own preference and you /never/ have to zoom. That's the beauty of the css file. I don't think the dpi setting approach will obviate the occasional need to change zoom level.
--
Chris

[WaltS48]

On 1/17/18 4:13 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:
> On 17/01/18 20:32, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 1/17/18 1:17 PM, Good Guy wrote:
>>> On 17/01/2018 18:12, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In my experience you do it once and it is set for all messages.
>>>
>>> But Chris said in one of his posts that "Yes, message text can be zoomed, but would anyone really want to
>>>   have to keep zooming in on every message? "   Who are we to argue with an expert?
> There is excellent advice coming through from James Moe, Bob from Tetbury and NoOp, amongst others. There is no point my repeating what they have offered.
>
> I won't have seen any of your postings first hand because you are in my kill file, and you will remain there until you remove that idiotic sig that conflates "using" with "satisfied". I am a reluctant but dissatisfied Windows 10 user, and I use it only when I am unable to use Linux.
>>
>> It appears to reset upon closing my Thunderbird, but I only had to use the feature in one message, and it applied to all following messages that I read.
>>
>> It also may be dependent on the format of the sent message.
> Do you never have to re-adjust the zoom level for different messages?

In my limited testing I have noticed different fonts, font sizes and
font weights in my emails and the newsgroup posts. All are readable at
the default zoom setting. Some are different at an increased zoom level.

The Toolbar, Folder Pane and Thread Pane font sizes could be a bit
larger on Windows.

>
> Override what is in the messages with your own preference and you /never/ have to zoom. That's the beauty of the css file. I don't think the dpi setting approach will obviate the occasional need to change zoom level. >

My Display preferences for Display > Formatting > Fonts & Colors are
Size 16 for Proportional and 12 for Monospace fonts and I "Allow
messages to use other fonts".

The Folder and Thread Pane background colors are the only changes I have
made using userChrome.css.

What happens when XUL, or is it XBL, or both go away completely and the
user can't create the userChrome.css file.

I know. We all stop updating.

[A. G. Birtles]

Firstly I want to thank all of you for the mass of suggestions in
response to my post.
It was nice to receive a reply from Reed <ret...@home.com>, who at 73
is seven years my junior, suggesting a Config Editor approach. I
followed his instructions and immediately my problem was solved. It is
such a long time since I poked in there that I had forgotten about
this approach. Incidentally I have an iMac and my wife's widows 10
machine required a different pixel setting, presumably because of
different display sizes.

[WaltS48]

Thanks for reporting back.

[Reed]

Credit is due to someone who posted this solution some months ago in
this NG. That's where I got it from, and like A.G, it solved my issue
perfectly.

Unfortunately I only saved the Config Editor string of
layout.css.devPixelsPerPx and not the poster's nym.

[Maurice]

On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:13 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

> go to Thunderbird's menu > Options > Display > click the Advanced
> button opposite the "default font" box, select Latin from the dropdown
> menu at the top and set all the fonts to Verdana and all the sizes to
> 17. Set both text encoding sections to Western (ISO-8859-1) Tick "use
> default text in replies".

Not here on Linux TBird - even under Preferences... :-(

I suspect Windows Bird has better options.

[Maurice]

On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:19:59 -0600, I wrote:

> Not here on Linux TBird - even under Preferences... :-(
>
> I suspect Windows Bird has better options.

Belay that! The font selection options have suddenly appeared! :-)
I swear they were not there before...

Regards,

[Ormail]

In article
<mailman.978.1516227787....@lists.mozilla.org>,
Reed <Ret...@home.com> wrote:
[Snippy]

> Credit is due to someone who posted this solution some months ago in
> this NG. That's where I got it from, and like A.G, it solved my issue
> perfectly.

> Unfortunately I only saved the Config Editor string of
> layout.css.devPixelsPerPx and not the poster's nym.

FWIW. That setting is also available in Firefox about:config.

Dor

[Ken Whiton]

*-* On Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018, at 11:24:54 -0600,
*-* In Article
<mailman.1016.1516209925....@lists.mozilla.org>,
*-* Maurice wrote
*-* About Re: Thunderbird's minute display

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 09:27:13 +0000, Bob Henson wrote:

>> The rest (and the most important) you can easily change with
>> userChrome.css.

> "easily change"?? Well, as a newcomer to TBird I have not found
> it almost impossible to e.g. change the font, colour or size of text
> in a message body.

For changes to the appearance of the message body the file to use
is userContent.css, not userChrome.css.

I see from a later post that you have found the

Preferences --> Display

settings interface. The userContent.css file can be used to make
other changes that aren't available there. Here are a couple of
examples from my userContent.css file to give you an idea of what else
can be done.

/* Change the color of quoted text in the editor (while composing
emails/news postings) */

span[_moz_quote=true] {
color: yellow !important; }

/* Remove the *,/,_ characters for bold, italic, and underline from
text messages/posts */

..moz-txt-star > .moz-txt-tag { display: none; }
..moz-txt-slash > .moz-txt-tag { display: none; }
..moz-txt-underscore > .moz-txt-tag { display: none; }

Ken Whiton
--
FIDO: 1:132/152
InterNet: kenw...@surfglobal.net.INVAL (remove the obvious to reply)

[Maurice]

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 03:41:19 -0500, Ken Whiton wrote:

> For changes to the appearance of the message body the file to use is
> userContent.css

I don't see such a file anywhere, except in .mozilla for Firefox!

Regards,
--
/\/\aurice

[WaltS48]

On 1/22/18 12:09 PM, Maurice wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 03:41:19 -0500, Ken Whiton wrote:
>
>> For changes to the appearance of the message body the file to use is
>> userContent.css
> I don't see such a file anywhere, except in .mozilla for Firefox!
>
> Regards,

You have to create it.

[David E. Ross]

On 1/22/2018 9:09 AM, Maurice wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 03:41:19 -0500, Ken Whiton wrote:
>
>> For changes to the appearance of the message body the file to use is
>> userContent.css
>
> I don't see such a file anywhere, except in .mozilla for Firefox!
>
> Regards,
>

With the Thunderbird menu bar exposed, select [Help > Troubleshooting
Information]. Select the Open Folder button to the right of Profile
Folder. On the Profile window, open the chrome folder. (Mozilla used
the term "chrome" long before Google used it for its browser.) You
should see files userChrome.css and userContent.css.

If you do not have those files, copy files userChrome-example.css and
userContent-example.css from the chrome folder in your Firefox profile
(reached the same way as your Thunderbird profile). Use those as
templates to create files userChrome.css and userContent.css by copying
and renaming them.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

President Trump: Please stop using Twitter. We need
to hear your voice and see you talking. We need to know
when your message is really your own and not your attorney's.

[Maurice]

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:37:19 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:

> You should see files userChrome.css and userContent.css.

No, there is no userContent.cs file there.

> If you do not have those files, copy files userChrome-example.css and
> userContent-example.css from the chrome folder in your Firefox profile
> (reached the same way as your Thunderbird profile). Use those as
> templates to create files userChrome.css and userContent.css by copying
> and renaming them.

I see that FF's userContent.css file has only 663 bytes; so little
info as not to be particularly helpful!
Perhaps elsewhere there are lengthier samples?

[David E. Ross]

Do NOT use Firefox's userChrome.css or userContent.css. Those files
have content specific to Firefox and might cause problems in
Thunderbird. I said to use userChrome-example.css and
userContent-example.css. Note the word "example" in the file names.

[Maurice]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 09:43:46 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:

> Do NOT use Firefox's userChrome.css or userContent.css.

I did realise that.

> I said to use userChrome-example.css and
> userContent-example.css. Note the word "example" in the file
> names.

I did understand that, which is why I then said:

"I see that FF's userContent.css file has only 663 bytes; so little
info as not to be particularly helpful!
Perhaps elsewhere there are lengthier samples?"