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Shaun

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Jul 19, 2006, 4:39:14 PM7/19/06
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I can't find a way to set up Thunderbird to not download messages from a server
based on a particular criteria I set, a feature in OE I used to make use of.

While it may sound a bit daft to set up OE this way, there was a particular
reason why I wanted to do this.

I'd like to set this up in Thunderbird now I want to switch to it but can't
find any way of doing this.

Is this a feature that is not available in Thunderbird?

Is there any way that I can set Thunderbird NOT to download certain messages?

Cheers.

Telmo Amaral

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Jul 19, 2006, 5:37:58 PM7/19/06
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Shaun wrote:
> I can't find a way to set up Thunderbird to not download messages from a server
> based on a particular criteria I set, a feature in OE I used to make use of.
> ....

If you're using an IMAP account, unless you read a message, only
its header is downloaded to TB. If you set a filter to delete
messages based on certain criteria, TB will apply that filter as
soon as the headers arrive and delete the appropriate messages
(that is, their headers), so that the full messages will later be
deleted on the server without ever being downloaded.

If you're using a POP account, then try going to Tools | Account
Settings | <your account> | Server Settings and checking 'Fetch
headers only'. Like that, again, unless you read a message, only
its header is downloaded to TB. Therefore, I /think/ you can again
use filters to do what you want, but I'm not entirely sure that
the actual messages will be deleted on the server...

Shaun

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Jul 21, 2006, 5:49:13 AM7/21/06
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Telmo Amaral wrote:

> Shaun wrote:
> > I can't find a way to set up Thunderbird to not download messages from a
> > server based on a particular criteria I set, a feature in OE I used to make
> > use of. ....
>
> If you're using an IMAP account, unless you read a message, only its header
> is downloaded to TB. If you set a filter to delete messages based on certain
> criteria, TB will apply that filter as soon as the headers arrive and delete
> the appropriate messages (that is, their headers), so that the full messages
> will later be deleted on the server without ever being downloaded.

Unfortunately I'm using a POP account.



> If you're using a POP account, then try going to Tools | Account Settings |
> <your account> | Server Settings and checking 'Fetch headers only'. Like
> that, again, unless you read a message, only its header is downloaded to TB.

> Therefore, I think you can again use filters to do what you want, but I'm not


> entirely sure that the actual messages will be deleted on the server...

That's not really what I'm looking for. I defintely need an option to tell
Thunderbird not to download certain messages from the server.

The reason is that I have 2 people sharing the same POP account. I need - until
I finally get my mail server sorted out that is! - to be able to have mail
addressed to one person only downloaded when that person connects and to not
download mail addressed to the other and vice versa.

Looks like Thunderbird doesn't support being able to do that. Thanks for the
suggestions though.

gwtc

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Jul 21, 2006, 12:08:05 PM7/21/06
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Shaun wrote:

let me get this straight. You have 1 email address, and 2 people
sharing that 1 email address. And you want mail for person 1 to be
downloaded when person 1 is online. Then you want mail for person 2
to be downloaded when person 2 is downloaded. But, you don't want
mail for person 2 to be downloaded when person 1 is online. And
you're using 1 email account. I don't think any program can do that.

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Snef

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Jul 21, 2006, 12:35:34 PM7/21/06
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Create an extra pop3 account at the hosting? That would do the trick.
Then you can have 2 seperate accounts.

Shaun

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Jul 21, 2006, 1:05:28 PM7/21/06
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gwtc wrote:

Nope. I have 2 e-mail addresses but both on the same domain name which I have
registered:-

shaun@<thedomainconcened>
jennie@<thedomainconcerned>

At the domain, I have the 2 e-mail addresses set to have e-mail sent to them
forwarded to the same pop account. In Outlook Express I was then able to set up
the 2 e-mail clients that download the mail to not download any e-mail
addressed to the other persons e-mail address using the "do not download it
from the server" mail rule.

I can't seem to do that in Thunderbird.

The only way around it seems to be to set a filter for all the mail downloaded
from the server addressed to the person downloading the mail to be deleted from
the server and another one to say that any mail addressed to the other person
to NOT be deleted from the server AND to be placed in the trash. A bit of a
cumbersome way to do things compared with the ease - now there's a surprise -
with which you can deal with this particular scenario in Outlook Express.

I know that this is NOT the way I should be handling the mail but, due to
current network problems and previous mail server problems, this is the way
that I've had to deal with the mail in the short term until I finally get
myself sorted out with a mail server.

Telmo Amaral

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Jul 21, 2006, 6:04:54 PM7/21/06
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> I can't seem to do that in Thunderbird. ....
Your scenario is a more complicated than I thought, but still you
can do something similar to what you did in OE, as follows. On
both TB accounts, go to Tools | Account Settings | <the account> |
Server Settings and check 'Fetch headers only' (as described in my
first message). Now, on shaun's TB account, go to Tools | Message
Filters and create two filters: 1) if To is
shaun@<thedomainconcened>, then Fetch From POP Server; 2) if To is
jennie@<thedomainconcerned>, then Delete. What now happens when
you check for new messages is that TB starts by fetching only the
headers of all new messages, and then applies the filters:
messages for shaun are fully fetched from the server (that is,
downloaded to TB and removed from the server); and the headers of
messages for jennie are deleted on TB, while the actual full
messages are kept on the server (so, if you go to the Trash folder
and click on any delete header for jennie, you'll see the info
'Only the headers for this message were downloaded from the mail
server.') Finally, On jennie's TB account, simply create the
complementary filters, so that it will fully fetch messages for
jennie and keep on the server messages for shaun.

Irwin Greenwald

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Jul 21, 2006, 8:00:11 PM7/21/06
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Why? You could have two pop accounts in TB - one for shaun and one for
jenny.


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