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Peter Holsberg

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Sep 23, 2012, 7:55:45 PM9/23/12
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When I print an email, I get ALL the headers!

Is there a way to control what I get, and to control the typeface --
particularly the size?

Thanks.

Frank

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Sep 23, 2012, 8:18:40 PM9/23/12
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Simple way might be to forward it, edit, cut out crap and just print
that and delete and not send.

Was Greywolf

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Sep 23, 2012, 8:35:46 PM9/23/12
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Try setting the Headers View. ON menu bar:

View > Headers > None

or:
View > Headers > Normal will print Subject, From, Date, and To.

HTH

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James Silverton

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Sep 23, 2012, 8:42:05 PM9/23/12
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Ever tried ALT-me CTRL-p ? This will print without headers.

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Ron K.

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Sep 23, 2012, 9:00:54 PM9/23/12
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Peter Holsberg on 9/23/2012 7:55 PM, keyboarded a reply:
Check out Printing Tools extension which offers header control as well
as some other controls not available with print page setup. It is now
available at AMO.

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Keith Nuttle

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Sep 23, 2012, 9:37:19 PM9/23/12
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On 9/23/2012 8:35 PM, Was Greywolf wrote:
I believe you only have a choice of Normal and All in TB15. Normal give
Subject, from, date, and to. About what you would want on a letter you
would write in a word processor.

goodwin

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Sep 23, 2012, 9:45:08 PM9/23/12
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On 09/23/2012 05:35 PM, Was Greywolf wrote:
> On 23/09/2012 7:55 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>> When I print an email, I get ALL the headers!
>>
>> Is there a way to control what I get, and to control the typeface --
>> particularly the size?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Try setting the Headers View. ON menu bar:
>
> View > Headers > None

I don't believe that is a standard setting - where do you get it?

goodwin

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Sep 23, 2012, 9:46:58 PM9/23/12
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eh?
ALT-me?
that a windoze thing?

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Sep 23, 2012, 9:53:58 PM9/23/12
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goodwin wrote:

> James Silverton wrote:
>> Ever tried ALT-me CTRL-p ? This will print without headers.
>
> eh?
> ALT-me?
> that a windoze thing?

I think he means: Alt-M then E

Which is the same as clicking the _M_essage menu, then _E_dit as New.
Choose Print from the menu of the new window.

Seems to work; nothing more than the body of the email. But you can no
longer tell (from the printed copy) which/what email it came from. I'd
rather print the Subject,From,Date,To.

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Was Greywolf

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Sep 23, 2012, 11:10:30 PM9/23/12
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On 23/09/2012 9:45 PM, goodwin wrote:
> On 09/23/2012 05:35 PM, Was Greywolf wrote:
>> On 23/09/2012 7:55 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>> When I print an email, I get ALL the headers!
>>>
>>> Is there a way to control what I get, and to control the typeface --
>>> particularly the size?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Try setting the Headers View. ON menu bar:
>>
>> View > Headers > None
>
> I don't believe that is a standard setting - where do you get it?

It's what I see on TB 11.01. If you don't, then it must be one of the
features added by the Compact Header extension. I've had that for so
long now, I can't recall what plain TB shows. ;-)


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Peter Holsberg

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Sep 24, 2012, 3:59:18 AM9/24/12
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James Silverton has written on 9/23/2012 8:42 PM:
>>
> Ever tried ALT-me CTRL-p ? This will print without headers.

ALT-me? I don't think I have a "me" key.

Ken Whiton

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Sep 24, 2012, 4:46:21 AM9/24/12
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*-* On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, at 23:10:30 -0400,
*-* In Article <3KudnVCPeoK7UsLN...@mozilla.org>,
*-* Was Greywolf wrote
*-* About Re: Printing Email w/o Headers

> On 23/09/2012 9:45 PM, goodwin wrote:
>> On 09/23/2012 05:35 PM, Was Greywolf wrote:
>>> On 23/09/2012 7:55 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>>> When I print an email, I get ALL the headers!
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to control what I get, and to control the typeface
>>>> -- particularly the size?
>
>>> Try setting the Headers View. ON menu bar:
>>>
>>> View > Headers > None
>
>> I don't believe that is a standard setting - where do you get it?
>
> It's what I see on TB 11.01. If you don't, then it must be one of
> the features added by the Compact Header extension. I've had that
> for so long now, I can't recall what plain TB shows. ;-)

I believe that's an option that's added by the Mnenhy extension.

Ken Whiton
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James Silverton

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Sep 24, 2012, 8:03:13 AM9/24/12
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On 9/23/2012 9:53 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> goodwin wrote:
>
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Ever tried ALT-me CTRL-p ? This will print without headers.
>>
>> eh?
>> ALT-me?
>> that a windoze thing?
>
> I think he means: Alt-M then E
>
> Which is the same as clicking the _M_essage menu, then _E_dit as New.
> Choose Print from the menu of the new window.
>
> Seems to work; nothing more than the body of the email. But you can no
> longer tell (from the printed copy) which/what email it came from. I'd
> rather print the Subject,From,Date,To.
>
Funny! Hold ALT while typing me does work as far as I can tell.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Sep 24, 2012, 8:50:21 AM9/24/12
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It will, if you don't release the Alt key in between the M and E. If you
do, the Alt-E will activate the "Edit" dropdown. Messages -> Edit as New
is a key of *Control-E*. Keystrokes are of course shown as underscores on
the appropriate letter, and to the right on the dropdown menus.

Was Greywolf

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Sep 24, 2012, 9:53:29 AM9/24/12
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On 24/09/2012 4:46 AM, Ken Whiton wrote:

I wrote, re View>Headers
>> [None] what I see on TB 11.01. If you don't, then it must be one of
>> > the features added by the Compact Header extension. I've had that
>> > for so long now, I can't recall what plain TB shows.;-)
> I believe that's an option that's added by the Mnenhy extension.
>
> Ken Whiton

Hey, you're right! I have that one, too.

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goodwin

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Sep 24, 2012, 10:45:45 AM9/24/12
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On 09/23/2012 06:53 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> goodwin wrote:
>
>> James Silverton wrote:
>>> Ever tried ALT-me CTRL-p ? This will print without headers.
>>
>> eh?
>> ALT-me?
>> that a windoze thing?
>
> I think he means: Alt-M then E
>
> Which is the same as clicking the _M_essage menu, then _E_dit as New.
> Choose Print from the menu of the new window.
>
> Seems to work; nothing more than the body of the email. But you can no
> longer tell (from the printed copy) which/what email it came from. I'd
> rather print the Subject,From,Date,To.
>


OK, I get it.
Actually, I was hitting the ctrl key and getting a blank message - hate
it when I do that.



goodwin

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Sep 24, 2012, 10:48:16 AM9/24/12
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On 09/23/2012 08:10 PM, Was Greywolf wrote:

>>> View > Headers > None
>>
>> I don't believe that is a standard setting - where do you get it?
>
> It's what I see on TB 11.01. If you don't, then it must be one of the
> features added by the Compact Header extension. I've had that for so
> long now, I can't recall what plain TB shows. ;-)
>

I've never seen it at all, so I'd say it is that extension.

Peter Holsberg

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Sep 24, 2012, 10:57:56 AM9/24/12
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Ron K. has written on 9/23/2012 9:00 PM:
> Peter Holsberg on 9/23/2012 7:55 PM, keyboarded a reply:
>> When I print an email, I get ALL the headers!
>>
>> Is there a way to control what I get, and to control the typeface --
>> particularly the size?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> Check out Printing Tools extension which offers header control as well
> as some other controls not available with print page setup. It is now
> available at AMO.
>

PT solved the problem with headers but the font controls do not seem to
work.

MikeR

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Sep 24, 2012, 11:34:06 AM9/24/12
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It's right below the "11" key. :-P

Mike Easter

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Sep 24, 2012, 2:01:15 PM9/24/12
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Peter Holsberg wrote:
> Ron K.
>> Peter Holsberg
>>> When I print an email, I get ALL the headers!
>>>
>>> Is there a way to control what I get, and to control the typeface --
>>> particularly the size?

>> Check out Printing Tools extension which offers header control as well
>> as some other controls not available with print page setup. It is now
>> available at AMO.

> PT solved the problem with headers but the font controls do not seem to
> work.

It seems to me...

... that if one wants a more granular control of printing than that
provided by a mail-news application plus a specific add-on designed to
mitigate some of the limitations to be expected in printing from a
mail-news app, that one should use an editor/word processor (or even
desktop publishing app) whose purpose is to structure, format, and print
for those whose demands are greater.

Or said another way, why do you have these kinds of printing
expectations from an app whose primary purpose isn't printing?



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Frank

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Sep 24, 2012, 2:22:05 PM9/24/12
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Worked for me too.
One of the reasons I follow this group.
For good advice.

Peter Holsberg

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Sep 24, 2012, 7:25:26 PM9/24/12
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Mike Easter has written on 9/24/2012 2:01 PM:
Any program that provides printing must give the user some control over
what gets printed.

TB gives me control over what is displayed -- font face and size; why
not over what is printed?

Ron Hunter

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Sep 24, 2012, 9:17:35 PM9/24/12
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Headers are printed based on your choices for header display. "none'
isn't one of the options.

Mike Easter

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Sep 25, 2012, 12:26:41 PM9/25/12
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Peter Holsberg wrote:
> Mike Easter
>> Peter Holsberg wrote:

>>> PT solved the problem with headers but the font controls do not seem to
>>> work.

>> why do you have these kinds of printing expectations from an app
>> whose primary purpose isn't printing?
>
> Any program that provides printing must give the user some control over
> what gets printed.
>
> TB gives me control over what is displayed -- font face and size; why
> not over what is printed?

In my experience, different apps whose primary purpose is display
instead of printing, go about performing printing duties using 'tricks'
and the system's printer drivers in different ways.

For example, how Opera the browser handles a printing duty is different
from the way Chrome or Chromium the browser goes about handling the same
printing duty and those tricks are manifested differently when I use
linux printer drivers than when I use windows printer drivers.

IMO, neither of the browsers is really designed to be a 'strong'
printing application -- like Tb is not designed to be a strong printing
application.

It sounds to me like Printing Tools adds a lot more capability to
something - Tb - that is not primarily a printing app -- Tb is more like
"I can do some light printing." PT says, "I can do quite a bit more."

Re fonts, PT says:

" - it can use a font family and a font size in printing messages (for
the whole message or just for headers);"


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Mike Easter

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Sep 25, 2012, 1:27:16 PM9/25/12
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Peter Holsberg wrote:

> PT solved the problem with headers but the font controls do not seem
> to work.

User-Agent: ... Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; ...

Your headers indicate Win7 with the 64/32 subsystem.

What is the brand and model of your printer? Which drivers are you
using for it?



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Peter Holsberg

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Sep 25, 2012, 1:48:27 PM9/25/12
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Mike Easter has written on 9/25/2012 1:27 PM:
Reinstalled the latest Canon MX870 drivers and reconfigured PT. Much
better. :-)

Thanks.

ken...@gmail.com

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Apr 12, 2014, 2:18:46 AM4/12/14
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On Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:56:01 PM UTC-7, Peter Holsberg wrote:
> When I print an email, I get ALL the headers!
>
>
>
> Is there a way to control what I get, and to control the typeface --
>
> particularly the size?
>
>
>
> Thanks.

ken...@gmail.com

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Apr 12, 2014, 2:23:19 AM4/12/14
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ken...@gmail.com

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Apr 12, 2014, 2:27:08 AM4/12/14
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Very simple. Click on down arrow right next to reply arrow and then click "PRINT"

Mike Easter

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Apr 12, 2014, 7:18:52 AM4/12/14
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ken...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:56:01 PM UTC-7, Peter Holsberg wrote:

Notice the date of the message you are replying to in the attribution
line above.

There was a nice discussion in this thread a year and a half ago.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.thunderbird/0vnM6zXL_l0
29 posts by 13 authors

If you reply to an old/stale thread, it is most likely that the readers
of your message cannot see the discussion which took place in response
to the OP in a timely fashion back in 2012 Sep.

Also, if you will subscribe to the group mozilla.support.thunderbird on
the news server news.mozilla.org with a news agent such as Thunderbird
instead of using a browser in googlegroups, your interface to the
newsgroup will be better and the messages you post will not be so badly
formatted.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/creating-newsgroup-account
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