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Peter Holsberg

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Oct 31, 2013, 2:10:26 PM10/31/13
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As I get older and my eyes weaker, it gets harder to see the little
yellow asterisk that designates a new message in my inbox.

Is there any code that will make the subject listing a bright color or
even bold or italic?

Thanks.

WaltS

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Oct 31, 2013, 4:08:11 PM10/31/13
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Well, by default the Account name and Inbox now turn a blue color when
new messages are received.

This is the userChrome.css I use to make the Inbox and other folders
turn red when I receive new messages.

/*
* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
functioning
*/
@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
/* set default namespace to XUL */

/* Change Folder Display to indicate New Message(s) has arrived */

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, newMessages-true)

{
color: red !important; font-weight: bold !important;
}


To be honest I've never really noticed the asterisk.


Peter Holsberg

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Oct 31, 2013, 4:15:16 PM10/31/13
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Thanks. I already have that.

WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 4:08 PM:
> On 10/31/2013 02:10 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>> As I get older and my eyes weaker, it gets harder to see the little
>> yellow asterisk that designates a new message in my inbox.
>>
>> Is there any code that will make the subject listing a bright color or
>> even bold or italic?
>>
>
> Well, by default the Account name and Inbox now turn a blue color when
> new messages are received.
>
> This is the userChrome.css I use to make the Inbox and other folders
> turn red when I receive new messages.
>
> /*
> * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
> functioning
> */
> @namespace
> url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
> /* set default namespace to XUL */
>
> /* Change Folder Display to indicate New Message(s) has arrived */
>
> treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, newMessages-true)
>
> {
> color: red !important; font-weight: bold !important;
> }
>
>
> To be honest I've never really noticed the asterisk.

Too bad! :-)

WaltS

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Oct 31, 2013, 4:40:14 PM10/31/13
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Change it to brighter color?

I do see the notification popups for longer than the default setting.

Peter Holsberg

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Oct 31, 2013, 4:58:37 PM10/31/13
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WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 4:40 PM:
> On 10/31/2013 04:15 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>> Thanks. I already have that.
>>
>> WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 4:08 PM:
>>> On 10/31/2013 02:10 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>>> As I get older and my eyes weaker, it gets harder to see the little
>>>> yellow asterisk that designates a new message in my inbox.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any code that will make the subject listing a bright color or
>>>> even bold or italic?
>
>
> Change it to brighter color?

The asterisk? That's what I asked for. :-)

> I do see the notification popups for longer than the default setting.

I'm not interested in reading emails as they arrive so I have
notifications disabled, but when I open a subfolder, I'd like to see
which messages are new since the last time I looked. My display is threaded.

WaltS

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Oct 31, 2013, 5:13:48 PM10/31/13
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On 10/31/2013 04:58 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
> WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 4:40 PM:
>> On 10/31/2013 04:15 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>> Thanks. I already have that.
>>>
>>> WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 4:08 PM:
>>>> On 10/31/2013 02:10 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>>>> As I get older and my eyes weaker, it gets harder to see the little
>>>>> yellow asterisk that designates a new message in my inbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any code that will make the subject listing a bright color or
>>>>> even bold or italic?
>>
>>
>> Change it to brighter color?
>
> The asterisk? That's what I asked for. :-)


No the text.

>
>> I do see the notification popups for longer than the default setting.
>
> I'm not interested in reading emails as they arrive so I have
> notifications disabled, but when I open a subfolder, I'd like to see
> which messages are new since the last time I looked. My display is threaded.
>


I don't read them as they arrive either, unless I see one in the
notification that looks important.

All my folders turn red because of the css file, and the new messages
are bold and black.

Don't have subfolders of folders. All of mine are under the account name.

Can't help you with the asterisk. Just another way of many ways of
indicating new messages. Totally unnoticed and ignored until you made me
look.

Peter Holsberg

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Oct 31, 2013, 5:23:11 PM10/31/13
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WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 5:13 PM:
> On 10/31/2013 04:58 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>> WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 4:40 PM:
>>> On 10/31/2013 04:15 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>>> Thanks. I already have that.
>>>>
>>>> WaltS has written on 10/31/2013 4:08 PM:
>>>>> On 10/31/2013 02:10 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>>>>> As I get older and my eyes weaker, it gets harder to see the little
>>>>>> yellow asterisk that designates a new message in my inbox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any code that will make the subject listing a bright color or
>>>>>> even bold or italic?
>>>
>>> Change it to brighter color?
>>
>> The asterisk? That's what I asked for. :-)
>
> No the text.

OK. That's what I asked for. :-)

How do I make the text brighter?

The Real Bev

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Oct 31, 2013, 6:03:47 PM10/31/13
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It's theme-dependent. Noia Extreme gives me a brown bear-paw-like thing
for unread messages, which contrasts nicely with the tiny green dot for
previously-read messages.

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Peter Holsberg

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Oct 31, 2013, 6:49:41 PM10/31/13
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The Real Bev has written on 10/31/2013 6:03 PM:
>> On 10/31/2013 02:10 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>> As I get older and my eyes weaker, it gets harder to see the little
>>> yellow asterisk that designates a new message in my inbox.
>>>
>>> Is there any code that will make the subject listing a bright color or
>>> even bold or italic?
>
> It's theme-dependent. Noia Extreme gives me a brown bear-paw-like thing
> for unread messages, which contrasts nicely with the tiny green dot for
> previously-read messages.

If they can modify it, why not me? :-)

Peter Holsberg

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Oct 31, 2013, 7:11:28 PM10/31/13
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The Real Bev has written on 10/31/2013 6:03 PM:
>
> It's theme-dependent. Noia Extreme gives me a brown bear-paw-like thing
> for unread messages, which contrasts nicely with the tiny green dot for
> previously-read messages.

What version of TB are you using? NE won't install on the latest one.

Barbara

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Oct 31, 2013, 11:34:11 PM10/31/13
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My new messages are bold. I don't see an asterisk.

Barbara

Ken Whiton

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Nov 1, 2013, 5:15:30 AM11/1/13
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*-* On Thu, 31 Oct 2013, at 14:10:26 -0400,
*-* In Article
<mailman.9410.1383243045....@lists.mozilla.org>,
*-* Peter Holsberg wrote
*-* About The asterisk for new messages
Do I understand correctly that you're referring to items in the
Thread Pane (list of individual messages in a folder/newsgroup)? If
so, the code WaltS gave you and his subsequent comments are
irrelevant. He gave you code for the Folder Pane, not the Thread Pane.

I just tested this userChrome.css code in my TB 17.0.5 and it
does what I think you want.

#threadTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(new) {
font-weight: bold; color: red !important; }

Change/delete the color and/or delete the font-weight as desired.

> Thanks.

You're welcome.

Ken Whiton
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Vic Moz Garcia

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Nov 1, 2013, 9:27:30 AM11/1/13
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This add-on (Theme) will do exactly what you want.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/phoenity-shredder/

Peter Holsberg

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Nov 1, 2013, 11:05:57 AM11/1/13
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Ken Whiton has written on 11/1/2013 5:15 AM:
>
> Do I understand correctly that you're referring to items in the
> Thread Pane (list of individual messages in a folder/newsgroup)? If
> so, the code WaltS gave you and his subsequent comments are
> irrelevant. He gave you code for the Folder Pane, not the Thread Pane.
>
> I just tested this userChrome.css code in my TB 17.0.5 and it
> does what I think you want.
>
> #threadTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(new) {
> font-weight: bold; color: red !important; }
>
> Change/delete the color and/or delete the font-weight as desired.

Didn't appear to have any affect on v24.1.0.

Peter Holsberg

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Nov 1, 2013, 11:09:32 AM11/1/13
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Vic Moz Garcia has written on 11/1/2013 9:27 AM:
All it seems to do is put an asterisk on an envelope.

Vic Moz Garcia

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Nov 1, 2013, 11:24:54 AM11/1/13
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????
And 'BOLD' the folders and messages with new content.
Just what you asked.

If that is not happening in your TB, then you have a different problem.

Vic Moz Garcia

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Nov 1, 2013, 11:45:28 AM11/1/13
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Correct, that does not work on 24.1.0
this is the one that work (bold and red):
userChrome.css
/* Change the color of unread messages and containing folders*/
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, hasUnreadMessages-true) {
color: red !important;
font-weight: bold !important;
}

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Inbox,
newMessages-true) {
font-weight: bold !important;
color: red !important;
}

WaltS

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Nov 1, 2013, 11:54:03 AM11/1/13
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Reading comprehension failure again. :)

Peter Holsberg

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Nov 1, 2013, 12:11:38 PM11/1/13
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Vic Moz Garcia has written on 11/1/2013 11:24 AM:
> On 11/01/13 11:09, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>> Vic Moz Garcia has written on 11/1/2013 9:27 AM:
>>> On 10/31/13 14:10, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>>>> As I get older and my eyes weaker, it gets harder to see the little
>>>> yellow asterisk that designates a new message in my inbox.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any code that will make the subject listing a bright color or
>>>> even bold or italic?
>>>>
>>> This add-on (Theme) will do exactly what you want.
>>>
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/phoenity-shredder/
>>
>> All it seems to do is put an asterisk on an envelope.
>
> ????
> And 'BOLD' the folders and messages with new content.
> Just what you asked.

Not exactly. I would like the subjects of new messages as listed in the
Threads pane to stand out. Right now, they are tagged with tiny gold
asterisks.

I already have CSS code that handles folder names in the Folder pane.

WaltS

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Nov 1, 2013, 1:06:58 PM11/1/13
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That theme added a envelope icon next to the subject which Thunderbird
doesn't have by default.

Subjects of new messages are bold and black by default.

At least I know what asterisk you are referring to now. Another one I
never noticed until you made me look.

Tried some different themes. The Nautipols theme uses a larger appearing
balloon that turns yellow for new subjects in the thread pane.

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search/?q=Nautipolis>

What if the background of the thread pane was a different color to make
the asterisk stand out?


James Moe

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Nov 1, 2013, 1:22:28 PM11/1/13
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The addon "Theme and Font Size Changer" may be helpful. While it does
not specifically have an option to change the new-message indicator, it
does allow you to easily change the font size, and to select a font that
has a bolder bold.

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Peter Holsberg

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Nov 1, 2013, 2:15:27 PM11/1/13
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WaltS has written on 11/1/2013 1:06 PM:
>
> Tried some different themes. The Nautipols theme uses a larger appearing
> balloon that turns yellow for new subjects in the thread pane.
>
> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search/?q=Nautipolis>
>
> What if the background of the thread pane was a different color to make
> the asterisk stand out?

Just installed Nautipolis 2.0.21 but I don't see balloons.

In the thread pane, each message has an envelope and unread ones have
subject in BOLD. New ones get a yellow envelope. Better but not quite
right for my eye.

Maybe a darker background would be better. How do I do that?

WaltS

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Nov 1, 2013, 2:22:32 PM11/1/13
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Ah, the theme is different on Windows than Linux.

I'm not sure what css you would need to make the thread pane background
another color.

Peter Holsberg

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Nov 1, 2013, 2:26:46 PM11/1/13
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James Moe has written on 11/1/2013 1:22 PM:
That makes global changes. Thanks, any way.

The Real Bev

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Nov 1, 2013, 2:28:44 PM11/1/13
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24.0.1. I'm waiting for a while before doing the next update, the
previous one was just too traumatic :-(

I'm using Nightly Tester Tools and forced it to install anyway. Seems
to work. The bad thing about new releases is damage to the add-ons :-(

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Ken Whiton

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Nov 1, 2013, 4:29:18 PM11/1/13
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*-* On Fri, 01 Nov 2013, at 14:15:27 -0400,
*-* In Article
<mailman.9522.1383329741....@lists.mozilla.org>,
*-* Peter Holsberg wrote
*-* About Re: The asterisk for new messages
This is what I use to change the background color in the Thread
Pane in TB 17.0.5.

#threadTree treechildren {
background-color: #0000DD !important; }

Change the color to suit your needs.

Peter Holsberg

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Nov 1, 2013, 4:46:03 PM11/1/13
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Ken Whiton has written on 11/1/2013 4:29 PM:
> *-* On Fri, 01 Nov 2013, at 14:15:27 -0400,
> *-* In Article
> <mailman.9522.1383329741....@lists.mozilla.org>,
> *-* Peter Holsberg wrote
> *-* About Re: The asterisk for new messages
>
>> WaltS has written on 11/1/2013 1:06 PM:
>
>>> Tried some different themes. The Nautipols theme uses a larger
>>> appearing balloon that turns yellow for new subjects in the thread
>>> pane.
>
>>> <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search/?q=Nautipolis>
>
>>> What if the background of the thread pane was a different color to
>>> make the asterisk stand out?
>
>> Just installed Nautipolis 2.0.21 but I don't see balloons.
>
>> In the thread pane, each message has an envelope and unread ones
>> have subject in BOLD. New ones get a yellow envelope. Better but not
>> quite right for my eye.
>
>> Maybe a darker background would be better. How do I do that?
>
> This is what I use to change the background color in the Thread
> Pane in TB 17.0.5.
>
> #threadTree treechildren {
> background-color: #0000DD !important; }
>

Strange. Here is my userChrome.css file:

/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
functioning */
/* set default namespace to XUL */
/* Ken Whiton: This is what I use to change the background color in the
Thread
Pane in TB 17.0.5. */

#threadTree treechildren {
background-color: #0000DD !important; }

Has no effect! ???

Vic Moz Garcia

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Nov 1, 2013, 5:20:07 PM11/1/13
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Of course no, that does NOT work on 24.1.0
see my replay to your post about your .css not working.

Peter Holsberg

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Vic Moz Garcia has written on 11/1/2013 5:20 PM:
Not here yet. Are you referring to my message entitled "userChrome.css"
or "Error Console"?

Vic Moz Garcia

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The .css one, here is a re-post:

>> >> I just tested this userChrome.css code in my TB 17.0.5 and it
>> >> does what I think you want.
>> >>
>> >> #threadTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(new) {
>> >> font-weight: bold; color: red !important; }
>> >>
>> >> Change/delete the color and/or delete the font-weight as desired.

> > **Didn't appear to have any affect on v24.1.0.**

Correct, that does not work on 24.1.0
this is the one that work (bold and red):
userChrome.css

WaltS

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Nov 1, 2013, 7:32:49 PM11/1/13
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Worked for me. Dumb question but did you save the change, and then
restart Thunderbird.

#0000DD was too dark blue for me. I changed it to #C0C0C0 and it exactly
matches my Message Pane background. The asterisk stands out much better.

Peter Holsberg

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WaltS has written on 11/1/2013 7:32 PM:
Yes, I did.

Maybe my question "userChrome.css" has some bearing here.

WaltS

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Nov 1, 2013, 7:43:34 PM11/1/13
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Yes maybe. I didn't see that post until after I sent this.

Peter Holsberg

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Vic Moz Garcia has written on 11/1/2013 6:38 PM:
>
> Correct, that does not work on 24.1.0
> this is the one that work (bold and red):
> userChrome.css
>
> @namespace
> url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
>
> /* Change the color of unread messages and containing folders*/
> treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, hasUnreadMessages-true) {
> color: red !important;
> font-weight: bold !important;
> }
>
> treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, specialFolder-Inbox,
> newMessages-true) {
> font-weight: bold !important;
> color: red !important;
> }

Here is a portion of the userChrome.css I had been using:

/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct
functioning */
/* set default namespace to XUL */
@namespace
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");

/* Folder with unread/new messages *************
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(hasUnreadMessages-true)
{
color: red !important;
}

/* Folder with subfolder, contains unread/new messages ***********
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(subfoldersHaveUnreadMessages-true)
{
color: red !important; font-weight: bold !important;
}

/* Make Folders containing Unread_Messages visually distinct from others */
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, hasUnreadMessages-true)
{
color: blue !important;
}

/* Change Folder Display to indicate New Message(s) has arrived */
treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(folderNameCol, newMessages-true)
{
color: red !important;
font-weight: bold !important;
}

/* New message subjects in red */
#threadTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(new) {
font-weight: bold; color: red !important; }

Any of that look familiar?

Vic Moz Garcia

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Nov 2, 2013, 1:23:07 AM11/2/13
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That looks OK, when I have time will test it.

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