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0verfl0w
Apr 14, 2013, 12:40:11 PM4/14/13
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Hi, does instant bird support encryption ? I mean OTR and PGP. Haven't found any info on website and also haven't find any add-on about this.
Also interested if it is possible to import conversation data from other clients and export it in case switching to a new computer or other OS(I am using mac and win).
You told that it is possible to import Mozilla plugins, what about Miranda plugins? I was really in love with history++ plugin because of easy search and bookmarks. Saw you are planning to extend log viewer functionality, would be great if you use history++ as a base.
Does instant bird support fingerprints? I mean detection which client your chat mate is using and telling you about it.
Can you use jabber protocol in instant bird in invisible mode?
Thanks
-Vitaly
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Also interested if it is possible to import conversation data from other clients and export it in case switching to a new computer or other OS(I am using mac and win).
You told that it is possible to import Mozilla plugins, what about Miranda plugins? I was really in love with history++ plugin because of easy search and bookmarks. Saw you are planning to extend log viewer functionality, would be great if you use history++ as a base.
Does instant bird support fingerprints? I mean detection which client your chat mate is using and telling you about it.
Can you use jabber protocol in instant bird in invisible mode?
Thanks
-Vitaly
Sent from my iPad
Patrick Cloke
Apr 14, 2013, 9:18:05 PM4/14/13
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Vitaly,
Thanks for your interest in Instantbird (one word, by the way!). I'll
answer your questions inline below.
On 4/14/2013 12:40 PM, 0verfl0w wrote:
> Hi, does instant bird support encryption ? I mean OTR and PGP. Haven't found any info on website and also haven't find any add-on about this.
Instantbird does not support OTR or PGP currently, there is an open bug
about adding OTR support, however [1].
> Also interested if it is possible to import conversation data from other clients
We had a Google Summer of Code student last year who worked on an import
wizard to find and import accounts, settings and logs from other clients
[2]. This has not been included in Instantbird yet, but hopefully will
be soon!
> and export it in case switching to a new computer or other OS(I am using mac and win).
If you're concerned about sharing a profile between multiple computers,
there are a variety of ways to do this, none of them are Instantbird
specific (they'd work for Firefox or Thunderbird as well). In other
words, you don't need to necessarily worry about "exporting" your logs
individually if you sync your profiles.
> You told that it is possible to import Mozilla plugins, what about Miranda plugins?
I'm not really sure what you mean by "import Mozilla plugins",
extensions for Firefox or Thunderbird are generally easy to port to
Instantbird, but you won't necessarily be able to just use them. You
cannot use a Miranda plugin with Instantbird.
> I was really in love with history++ plugin because of easy search and bookmarks. Saw you are planning to extend log viewer functionality, would be great if you use history++ as a base.
If you have specific improvements you'd like to see in the log viewer,
we'd love to hear them, please file bugs [3]!
> Does instant bird support fingerprints? I mean detection which client your chat mate is using and telling you about it.
I'm unsure what you're asking about here. Can you give more details?
Is this specific to PGP/OTR?
> Can you use jabber protocol in instant bird in invisible mode?
XMPP is a supported protocol, yes. It looks like we don't currently
support invisibility for it, however [4]. (It also looks like there
isn't a standard way to support this, so it probably wouldn't be fun to
add.)
> Thanks
> -Vitaly
Thanks for your feedback, please let us know if you have any more questions!
--Patrick
[1] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=877
[2] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1495
[3] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org
[4] https://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4509
Thanks for your interest in Instantbird (one word, by the way!). I'll
answer your questions inline below.
On 4/14/2013 12:40 PM, 0verfl0w wrote:
> Hi, does instant bird support encryption ? I mean OTR and PGP. Haven't found any info on website and also haven't find any add-on about this.
about adding OTR support, however [1].
> Also interested if it is possible to import conversation data from other clients
wizard to find and import accounts, settings and logs from other clients
[2]. This has not been included in Instantbird yet, but hopefully will
be soon!
> and export it in case switching to a new computer or other OS(I am using mac and win).
there are a variety of ways to do this, none of them are Instantbird
specific (they'd work for Firefox or Thunderbird as well). In other
words, you don't need to necessarily worry about "exporting" your logs
individually if you sync your profiles.
> You told that it is possible to import Mozilla plugins, what about Miranda plugins?
extensions for Firefox or Thunderbird are generally easy to port to
Instantbird, but you won't necessarily be able to just use them. You
cannot use a Miranda plugin with Instantbird.
> I was really in love with history++ plugin because of easy search and bookmarks. Saw you are planning to extend log viewer functionality, would be great if you use history++ as a base.
we'd love to hear them, please file bugs [3]!
> Does instant bird support fingerprints? I mean detection which client your chat mate is using and telling you about it.
Is this specific to PGP/OTR?
> Can you use jabber protocol in instant bird in invisible mode?
support invisibility for it, however [4]. (It also looks like there
isn't a standard way to support this, so it probably wouldn't be fun to
add.)
> Thanks
> -Vitaly
Thanks for your feedback, please let us know if you have any more questions!
--Patrick
[1] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=877
[2] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1495
[3] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org
[4] https://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4509
Patrick Cloke
Apr 15, 2013, 8:25:24 AM4/15/13
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You're welcome. It's not that we don't want to support OTR, but we'd need
to ensure there's a good user experience around it. We've had a lot of
people complain we don't support it, but no one has been willing to step up
and add support.
Again, I'd ask you to file (specific) bugs, each asking for an individual
feature or enhancement if you find that something is not supported. Sorry,
I will not be giving history++ a try, I do not use Miranda.
I'm still unsure what you mean by a finger print, usually this is a crypto
term referring to some hash of the user's key.
Some clients might support Invisibility, Instantbird does not. Note that
even if the protocol supported it, we don't actually support it in our UI
(see [2] for information why). Someone did request this for XMPP, however
[1], I gave some information but no one ever provided a patch. What is
your use case for being invisible? It seems to defeat the purpose of using
instant messaging.
Thanks for your feedback on Instantbird,
Patrick
[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=802133
[2] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:48 AM, 0verfl0w <0verfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your detailed reply!
> day, HTML/PDF/plan text export, bookmarks on messages.. That's all. About
> search - for example in psi search find only messages with keyword and this
> makes me Crazy! (I trying to tell you that search should find message in
> content surrounded by other messages. For example if I search pizza in logs
> psi will give me a list of messages where pizza was mentioned(bad), Miranda
> will be like search on the webpage and find a pizza surrounded by messages
> which was followed I. That conversation, you hit search further and in find
> another pizza in logs, does not rip off messages) god hope you understand
> me. It would be nice if you give history++ a try
> contacts client(Im application) and show you icon is called finger print.
> some clients does have it and it lags and the other (most of them) don't
> have the invisibility mode.
>
> -Vitaly
to ensure there's a good user experience around it. We've had a lot of
people complain we don't support it, but no one has been willing to step up
and add support.
Again, I'd ask you to file (specific) bugs, each asking for an individual
feature or enhancement if you find that something is not supported. Sorry,
I will not be giving history++ a try, I do not use Miranda.
I'm still unsure what you mean by a finger print, usually this is a crypto
term referring to some hash of the user's key.
Some clients might support Invisibility, Instantbird does not. Note that
even if the protocol supported it, we don't actually support it in our UI
(see [2] for information why). Someone did request this for XMPP, however
[1], I gave some information but no one ever provided a patch. What is
your use case for being invisible? It seems to defeat the purpose of using
instant messaging.
Thanks for your feedback on Instantbird,
Patrick
[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=802133
[2] https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:48 AM, 0verfl0w <0verfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your detailed reply!
>
> > On 4/14/2013 12:40 PM, 0verfl0w wrote:
> > On 4/14/2013 12:40 PM, 0verfl0w wrote:
> >> Hi, does instant bird support encryption ? I mean OTR and PGP. Haven't
> found any info on website and also haven't find any add-on about this.
> found any info on website and also haven't find any add-on about this.
> > Instantbird does not support OTR or PGP currently, there is an open bug
> about adding OTR support, however [1].
> That's really sad for me.
> about adding OTR support, however [1].
>
> >> You told that it is possible to import Mozilla plugins, what about
> Miranda plugins?
> >> You told that it is possible to import Mozilla plugins, what about
> Miranda plugins?
> > I'm not really sure what you mean by "import Mozilla plugins",
> extensions for Firefox or Thunderbird are generally easy to port to
> Instantbird, but you won't necessarily be able to just use them. You cannot
> use a Miranda plugin with Instantbird.
> For me plugins = extensions, sorry I'm really into computer stuff.
> extensions for Firefox or Thunderbird are generally easy to port to
> Instantbird, but you won't necessarily be able to just use them. You cannot
> use a Miranda plugin with Instantbird.
>
> >> I was really in love with history++ plugin because of easy search and
> bookmarks. Saw you are planning to extend log viewer functionality, would
> be great if you use history++ as a base.
> >> I was really in love with history++ plugin because of easy search and
> bookmarks. Saw you are planning to extend log viewer functionality, would
> be great if you use history++ as a base.
> > If you have specific improvements you'd like to see in the log viewer,
> we'd love to hear them, please file bugs [3]!
> Fast and good search, built in calendar to click on it and see chats that
> we'd love to hear them, please file bugs [3]!
> day, HTML/PDF/plan text export, bookmarks on messages.. That's all. About
> search - for example in psi search find only messages with keyword and this
> makes me Crazy! (I trying to tell you that search should find message in
> content surrounded by other messages. For example if I search pizza in logs
> psi will give me a list of messages where pizza was mentioned(bad), Miranda
> will be like search on the webpage and find a pizza surrounded by messages
> which was followed I. That conversation, you hit search further and in find
> another pizza in logs, does not rip off messages) god hope you understand
> me. It would be nice if you give history++ a try
>
>
> >> Does instant bird support fingerprints? I mean detection which client
> your chat mate is using and telling you about it.
>
> >> Does instant bird support fingerprints? I mean detection which client
> your chat mate is using and telling you about it.
> > I'm unsure what you're asking about here. Can you give more details? Is
> this specific to PGP/OTR?
> No! In Miranda and I guess in other clients I used identifying the
> this specific to PGP/OTR?
> contacts client(Im application) and show you icon is called finger print.
>
>
> >> Can you use jabber protocol in instant bird in invisible mode?
>
> >> Can you use jabber protocol in instant bird in invisible mode?
> > XMPP is a supported protocol, yes. It looks like we don't currently
> support invisibility for it, however [4]. (It also looks like there isn't a
> standard way to support this, so it probably wouldn't be fun to add.)
> That's strange because some clients does have it and it works (Miranda),
> support invisibility for it, however [4]. (It also looks like there isn't a
> standard way to support this, so it probably wouldn't be fun to add.)
> some clients does have it and it lags and the other (most of them) don't
> have the invisibility mode.
>
> -Vitaly
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