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Ray K

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Jan 12, 2010, 4:41:18 PM1/12/10

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If I go here, http://www.optimum.com/lineup.jsp?regionId=31, then to
File/Print Preview, it only shows the first page (left column starts
with channel 2 and ends with channel 38, and the right column starts
with channel 344 and ends with channel 412). What happened to the rest
of the channels?

Print Preview with IE shows them all, taking 5-8 pages (depending on
scaling).

I'm using FF 3.5.3 with XP Home Edition, SP3, plus dozens of security
and hot fixes.

Thanks,

Ray

Terry R.

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Jan 12, 2010, 5:21:36 PM1/12/10

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On 1/12/2010 1:41 PM On a whim, Ray K pounded out on the keyboard

Hi Ray,

See the same thing here. A long standing issue with FF, but usually
with tables. This one uses div's and the result is still less than
acceptable.

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C A Upsdell

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Jan 12, 2010, 6:24:37 PM1/12/10

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I wonder whether it may be related to the fact that the page you cited
has 21 HTML validation errors, and 71 CSS errors. Many of the errors
are quite serious.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Jan 12, 2010, 7:32:50 PM1/12/10

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Ray K wrote:

> If I go here, http://www.optimum.com/lineup.jsp?regionId=31, then to
> File/Print Preview, it only shows the first page (left column starts
> with channel 2 and ends with channel 38, and the right column starts
> with channel 344 and ends with channel 412). What happened to the
> rest of the channels?

It does the same for me with the Opera browser. This does not appear to
be a Firefox problem. It's the page's errors. Possibly browser sniffing.

> Print Preview with IE shows them all, taking 5-8 pages (depending on
> scaling).

I'd suggest you contact that webmaster and let hir know of the problem.

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Ray K

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Jan 15, 2010, 5:05:41 PM1/15/10

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There are simply too many bugs like this in FF; IE has no problems with
such bugs.

I know the argument: FF adheres to the (HTML)specs more exactly, IE
doesn't. But in the real world, I want a browser that will work right.
I'm tired of seeing FF display punctuation marks as small squares with
tiny numbers inside.

Bill Braun

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Jan 15, 2010, 5:19:20 PM1/15/10

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Ray K wrote:
> I know the argument: FF adheres to the (HTML)specs more exactly, IE
> doesn't. But in the real world, I want a browser that will work right.
> I'm tired of seeing FF display punctuation marks as small squares with
> tiny numbers inside.

I've not experienced that (FF 3.5.7). What encoding is your
browser set to (Options > Content> Fonts & Colors > Advanced)?

Bill

C A Upsdell

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Jan 15, 2010, 6:33:20 PM1/15/10

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It is not a bug in FF, because the standards don't say what a browser
should do with rotten HTML.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Jan 15, 2010, 7:43:49 PM1/15/10

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Ray K wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Ray K wrote:
>>
>>> If I go here, http://www.optimum.com/lineup.jsp?regionId=31, then to
>>> File/Print Preview, it only shows the first page (left column
>>> starts with channel 2 and ends with channel 38, and the right
>>> column starts with channel 344 and ends with channel 412). What
>>> happened to the rest of the channels?
>>
>> It does the same for me with the Opera browser. This does not appear
>> to be a Firefox problem. It's the page's errors. Possibly browser
>> sniffing.
>>
>>> Print Preview with IE shows them all, taking 5-8 pages (depending on
>>> scaling).
>>
>> I'd suggest you contact that webmaster and let hir know of the
>> problem.
>
> There are simply too many bugs like this in FF; IE has no problems
> with such bugs.

This seems to prove that the authors of the page only tested it in IE.
To me, and in this day, that's irresponsible.

Did you write to the webmaster yet? You could tell him that a quarter of
his intended audience can't print the page.

> I know the argument: FF adheres to the (HTML)specs more exactly, IE
> doesn't.

Good, because that is true.

> But in the real world, I want a browser that will work right.

In the real world, most web pages are crap and browsers have to attempt
to interpret errors, and there is no _standard_ for how to do that.

> I'm tired of seeing FF display punctuation marks as small
> squares with tiny numbers inside.

..which is something else, other than your original problem. Start a new
thread for that?

Ron Hunter

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Jan 15, 2010, 8:11:27 PM1/15/10

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Are you asking a question, or making a statement. If you would rather
use IE, do. If you want help making FF work the way you want, then this
is the place, but please just ask a question.

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Christoph Schmees

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Jan 16, 2010, 5:54:46 AM1/16/10

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Ray K schrieb:

brand new: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/979352.mspx
That warning has been in the evening news yesterday in German TV even!

And if you want more fun, go to
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/SOFT_M/#list and look for "Microsoft
Internet .."

Bottom line: *IE doesn't work right*. Contrary, it's full of dangerous bugs
itself!

The solution is not "use a buggy browser for this buggy website, but it is:
Inform the incompetent web designer that he or she has to adhere to
worldwide accepted standards, otherwise his page may not be accessible and
useful to everyone.

Terry R.

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Jan 17, 2010, 3:22:14 AM1/17/10

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On 1/16/2010 2:54 AM On a whim, Christoph Schmees pounded out on the
keyboard

> Ray K schrieb:

To most people, the solution is when one product doesn't do what you
need, you use another. And then they stop using the other product
because they don't think it works properly.

This isn't a pissing contest between browsers. People just want
something to work. NO ONE cares whether the web page is full of bad
code when they just want to print it out. You can blame the "standards
compliant" issue all day long. But the average joe doesn't hear you.