Firefox 29.0.1

[M. David Johnson]

I'm running Windows 7 64-bit Pro. My Firefox just updated to 29.0.1.



Unfortunately, the new tabs (other than the current tab) are very faint. So
are other parts of the new browser.



My old eyes need more light and contrast.



How can I migrate back to the previous version?



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M. David Johnson

<mailto:m...@bds-soft.com> m...@bds-soft.com





From: M. David Johnson [mailto:m...@bds-soft.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:43 AM
To: 'support-fi...@lists.mozilla.org'
Subject: Firefox 29.0.1



I got this:



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When I emailed this to support...@lists.mozilla.org. :



I'm running Windows 7 64-bit Pro. My Firefox just updated to 29.0.1.



Unfortunately, the new tabs (other than the current tab) are very faint. So
are other parts of the new browser.



My old eyes need more light and contrast.



How can I migrate back to the previous version?



--

M. David Johnson

m...@bds-soft.com

[Dino]

Just search for old firefox files in google.You can actually download
ff28 from a mozilla site.They give you warnings about old files but
your mileage may vary.

[Dino]

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/

[Barbara]

I was using the latest version of Firefox 29.0.1 and shut down normally
last night. This morning, all my bookmarks on the toolbar were gone and
I couldn't figure out how to get back the saved tabs. I finally tried a
few things and managed to put them in a Tab Group, however, then they
were completely gone never to be found again.
I was able to use another browser to find a link to the old versions
so went back to version 28. Version 29 had been working OK until today.

Barbara

[Barbara]

Interestingly, when I downloaded version 28, my virus program (Trend Micro Internet Security) blocked something it calls TROJ_GEN.R0CBH02E614 and I had to reboot to finish removal of the threat.  I couldn't get to the report at the time I got the alert.

  I was able to install the resulting Firefox.exe file successfully after a reboot.  I didn't realize what the threat was at the time.  Later, went into the virus program to see what the report was and saw that. 

Version 28 is working as it used to and my bookmark toolbar installed properly.

Barbara

[Keith Nuttle]

Did you download from a Mozilla site, or somewhere else?

[Dave Symes]

In article <ncCdnTqaSbT2q-vO...@mozilla.org>,

Prompted to write, after having to sort out a friends Firefox disaster a
few days ago...

Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after something in a user
profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.

I backup my main Fx profile once a week to my LAN NAS, and on there I keep
three previous profile backups, removing the oldest one when I've backed
the latest.

It doesn't take long to drag a Copy of the profile to somewhere else, and
if that little, or big disaster strikes, particularly bookmarks, then it a
very short job the put things back as they were.

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

[Ed Mullen]

Dave Symes wrote:
> In article <ncCdnTqaSbT2q-vO...@mozilla.org>,
> Barbara <junkgr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I was using the latest version of Firefox 29.0.1 and shut down normally
>> last night. This morning, all my bookmarks on the toolbar were gone and
>> I couldn't figure out how to get back the saved tabs. I finally tried a
>> few things and managed to put them in a Tab Group, however, then they
>> were completely gone never to be found again.
>> I was able to use another browser to find a link to the old versions
>> so went back to version 28. Version 29 had been working OK until today.
>
>> Barbara
>
> Prompted to write, after having to sort out a friends Firefox disaster a
> few days ago...
>
> Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after something in a user
> profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
> Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.

Oh, God! I've been writing about this for at least ten years here.

If you don't have an automated backup plan for your entire system and
you post here about a problem that could be solved by restoring your
profile? You get ZERO sympathy from me.

There are free options out there. And, hey! You mean to tell me that
you're so freaking cheap that you won't pay for an automated backup
software and you still post here asking for help???

My sympathy dissolved prior to the previous three paragraphs.

You deserve what you get.

For God's sake, it's 2014!!! I've been using backup software since 1984.

From now on my first question is gonna be: "And do you have a daily
backup that you can restore?"

Geez. Idiots.

Ya know, some people shouldn't be allowed to drive cars. Some shouldn't
be allowed to have kids. Some shouldn't be allowed to own guns. And,
frankly, some simply shouldn't be allowed to own computers.

I'm gonna go to bed now, I think my work here is done.

I'll sign off with a smiley ...

:-D


But, really?



--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
When in doubt assume that, once again, you've outsmarted yourself.

[Dino]

Gee I wish I was perfect with no faults.

[Ed Mullen]

Me too. But I do have a backup plan.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/

"Don't make no sense that common sense don't make no sense no more." -
John Prine

[Dave Symes]

In article <1JidnZSZmK6sSuvO...@mozilla.org>,
Dino <di...@nospam.none> wrote:
[Mucho snippy]

> Gee I wish I was perfect with no faults.

If we were all perfect none of us would need to make any Firefox
backups... I for one will admit freely to not being anywhere close to
perfect, so I make my backups.

It does also save on pain... It really does save grinding ones teeth down
to the roots or banging the hand on the desk in frustration, ouch!
Etc...

Dave

--

[Russell Hafter News]

In article <5408dd0...@triffid.co.uk>,

Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after
> something in a user profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
> Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.

Because they do not know that it is possible, I would
suggest.

First I have heard of this!

I would happily back up my profile, if I knew where it was,
which is, I guess, where it would need to be put back to if
required.

But then, I find backing-up anything under Windows (other
than things that I myself have actually saved) near
impossible, because I have no idea where anything is stored
unless I have put it there.

--
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[Caver1]

On 05/17/2014 03:26 PM, Russell Hafter News wrote:
> In article <5408dd0...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after
>> something in a user profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
>> Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.
>
> Because they do not know that it is possible, I would
> suggest.
>
> First I have heard of this!
>
> I would happily back up my profile, if I knew where it was,
> which is, I guess, where it would need to be put back to if
> required.
>
> But then, I find backing-up anything under Windows (other
> than things that I myself have actually saved) near
> impossible, because I have no idea where anything is stored
> unless I have put it there.
>

You could install Open Profile Folder. That's the easy way.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/open-profile-folder/?src=ss

--
Caver1

[Robert M Jones]

Isn't it sort of self-evident that a "support" group is going to contain
posts from people who want to learn new things and don't know the stuff
that others do know? It is therefore the wrong place to post criticism
of ignorance. If no "ignorant" people posted here, the group would need
to close down.

If you don't LIKE reading posts from people who lack your expertise -
then don't read the support group. Subscribe to "expert guru information
sharing" groups instead.

[Dave Symes]

In article <54095d44...@russellhafter.me.invalid>,

Russell Hafter News <see...@russellhafter.me.invalid> wrote:
> In article <5408dd0...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> > Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after
> > something in a user profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
> > Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.

> Because they do not know that it is possible, I would
> suggest.

> First I have heard of this!

> I would happily back up my profile, if I knew where it was,
> which is, I guess, where it would need to be put back to if
> required.

> But then, I find backing-up anything under Windows (other
> than things that I myself have actually saved) near
> impossible, because I have no idea where anything is stored
> unless I have put it there.

Well Russell, as you and I know each other from other places, I'll send
you a posting in short while.

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

[Barbara]

I downloaded from the Mozille site. I don't trust other sites.

Barbara

[Barbara]

And, I do also have backups :) Because Firefox/TB has been doing so
many software upgrades, I stopped saving every .exe version file, so had
to find that online. My Bookmarks files was not gone, it was the
version 29.0.1 that lost its memory of where it was. Version 28 had no
problem finding it and and if it hadn't, I would just go to the previous
day's mirror backup or or a previous weekly incremental back up to
restore it.

I agree that backups are critical. I've had to restore files
countless times and so grateful I had them the couple times I've had
sudden computer failures.

Barbara

[WaltS48]

On 05/17/2014 03:26 PM, Russell Hafter News wrote:

> In article <5408dd0...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after
>> something in a user profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
>> Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.
>
> Because they do not know that it is possible, I would
> suggest.
>
> First I have heard of this!
>
> I would happily back up my profile, if I knew where it was,
> which is, I guess, where it would need to be put back to if
> required.
>
> But then, I find backing-up anything under Windows (other
> than things that I myself have actually saved) near
> impossible, because I have no idea where anything is stored
> unless I have put it there.
>

Microsoft does have a web site where you can educate yourself.

[Back up your files - Microsoft Windows
Help](http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/back-up-files#1TC=windows-7)

[Backup and Restore - Microsoft
Windows](http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore)

--
Thunderbird 30.0b1
Jazz Live International
<http://pittsburghjazzlive.com/>
Go Bucs!

[Ed Mullen]

It is the expected norm on newsgroups that people will peruse past posts
to find if their particular issue has been dealt with in the past.

Basic computing is like basic driving. Fill up your gas tank. Make
backups, put on your seatbelt, check the oil, etc. Sorry if you don't
like hard truth.

I do feel sorry for people who have to learn the hard truth though first
tragedies. I feel nothing for people who claim to be long-time users
and haven't learned the most basic lesson of computing.

Run out of gas? After driving for 10 years? Idiot.

Lost data after user computers for 10 years? Idiot.

No, no sympathy.

Every problem in this thread could easily have been resolved with a
simple restore, either a Windows Restore Point or a selective restore
from a backup.

You get in your car in the morning and run out of gas on the way to
Starbucks? I'll laugh about it with you as you call AAA or your
manufacturer's emergency service but in the back of my mind I'm thinking
"Idiot." And, yes, I'm only this smart because I've been that idiot in
the past. So, no, my posts are not smug, they are real-world
experience-based.

So, BTW, what exactly is YOUR backup strategy?

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/

Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked?

[Ed Mullen]

Exactly, Dave. I don't have a backup plan because I'm perfect. I have
one because I am sure that sometime in the future I WILL shoot myself in
the foot. I am only approaching perfection by having that knowledge and
that plan.

I'll still be imperfect the next time I recover from some calamity I've
caused by using my backups. By definition, needing the backup means I
screwed up somehow. No problem, I stress my systems a lot by doing odd
things, testing software, installing/uninstalling, trying different
stuff, etc.

But, yeah, I'll commiserate but I'll also be a bit smug when I read
about someone who is desperately pleading for help with a system failure
who does NOT have any backups. It's stupid. Like driving around
without looking at the gas gauge.

Yes, I do feel for them. No, I have no sympathy. There's a difference.

My rants about this go back, as I've said, a decade or more. My
endeavor to master backups goes back to around 1984. So, I've got a
little experience in this. Floppies. Tapes. Etc.

Current strategy is:

All computers in the house do automated daily backups while I'm asleep.
To a 1.5 Terabyte portable drive on my server. About once a month I
take the drive to the bank, open my safe deposit box, swap the drives,
take the older drive back home and it now updates.

Perfect? Not hardly. But it's convenient, cheap, automatic and safe.
I've got an off-site backup in case the house goes up in smoke.

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/

Why are cigarettes sold in gas stations when you can't smoke there?

[Ed Mullen]

Russell Hafter News wrote:
> In article <5408dd0...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after
>> something in a user profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
>> Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.
>
> Because they do not know that it is possible, I would
> suggest.
>
> First I have heard of this!
>
> I would happily back up my profile, if I knew where it was,
> which is, I guess, where it would need to be put back to if
> required.
>
> But then, I find backing-up anything under Windows (other
> than things that I myself have actually saved) near
> impossible, because I have no idea where anything is stored
> unless I have put it there.
>

Dear God! You're computing and know nothing of backups?

http://www.todo-backup.com/

Please. Even if you are so cheap that you only will use their free
version, USE IT!!!

--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/

Some people are like a Slinky toy - not really good for anything, but
you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

[CRNG]

On Sat, 17 May 2014 20:26:41 +0100, Russell Hafter News
<see...@russellhafter.me.invalid> wrote in
<54095d44...@russellhafter.me.invalid>

>In article <5408dd0...@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave Symes <da...@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Considering the amount of weeping and wailing after
>> something in a user profile goes TU. Bookmarks mostly...
>> Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.
>
>Because they do not know that it is possible, I would
>suggest.
>
>First I have heard of this!
>
>I would happily back up my profile, if I knew where it was,
>which is, I guess, where it would need to be put back to if
>required.

Thry MozBackup. I've been using it for years. It works from the
command line and also has a GUI.
http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

[PietB]

Dave Symes wrote:
> Why oh why don't people make backups of their Profile.

Leave out "of their Profile" and you have the everyday
reality of zillions of people...

-p

[PietB]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> Dino wrote:

>> Gee I wish I was perfect with no faults.
>
> Me too. But I do have a backup plan.

Merely a plan won't cut it. ;-)

-p