video blocked but not in Chrome?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/river-speaks?platform=hootsuite

When I view that page in my Firefox26 with addons, the page loads,
except that where the video is, it says

Sorry
Because of its privacy settings, this video
cannot be played here.

When I view the _same_ page, on this same computer, with Chrome (Version
49.0.2623.112 m), the video is playable.

I did try turning AdNlockPlus off, but no change (other than I had the
feeling the page took longer to load).
--
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Although I may disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death your
right to hear me tell you how wrong you are.

[jbclem]

I have the same problem with CNN videos, and others as well. They won't
play in Palemoon, Firefox v51, Opera v34. But they play in Chrome. The
strange thing is that if there's a commercial that runs before the
video, it will play in all my browsers...it's just the video that won't.
I get different error messages than you have, but they all have the
same meaning: no video play. I've tried with addons disabled but that
hasn't made any difference.

There has to be some technical change that's been made, video wise, and
only Chrome has adjusted for it.

[jbclem]

I have the same problem with CNN videos, and others as well. They won't
play in Palemoon, Firefox v51, Opera v34. But they play in Chrome. The
strange thing is that if there's a commercial that runs before the
video, it will play in all my browsers...it's just the video that won't.
I get different error messages than you have, but they all have the
same meaning: no video play. I've tried with addons disabled but that
hasn't made any difference.

There has to be some technical change that's been made, video wise, and
only Chrome has adjusted for it.




On 4/14/2017 4:30 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[Andy Burns]

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

> http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/river-speaks?platform=hootsuite

> Sorry Because of its privacy settings, this video cannot be played
> here.

It work for me (firefox 52, 64bit, no flash, with uBlock)

But it doesn't play if I disable the openH264 codec, I guess your
firefox is so old that it doesn't include the codec?

[Andy Burns]

Andy Burns wrote:

> I guess your firefox is so old that it doesn't include [openh264]?

You need at least firefox 33

[Peter]

I agree that it plays fine in Chrome. Not sure it has anything to do
with up to date version of FF. I'm using FF 52.0.2 on Win 10 with all
updates installed. The link doesn't play for me either, even in safe
mode. I can click on the time strip and see a still shot anywhere along
the entire length of the video, but it never plays as a video. By the
way, I didn't receive any error or warning msgs.

[Andy Burns]

Peter wrote:

> I agree that it plays fine in Chrome. Not sure it has anything to do
> with up to date version of FF. I'm using FF 52.0.2 on Win 10 with all
> updates installed. The link doesn't play for me either, even in safe
> mode. I can click on the time strip and see a still shot anywhere along
> the entire length of the video, but it never plays as a video. By the
> way, I didn't receive any error or warning msgs.

When I disabled the openh264 codec I didn't get any errors, just a black
rectangle with no player controls; with te plugin enabled it plays fine.
Maybe John can upgrade to FF33 or later to get the codec, presumably
from the Chrome version he has he's holding on to XP? Maybe try it with
flash disabled?

[Joskin]

I'm using Win10 with all updates, and Firefox 52.0.2.
The video plays for me, but not until I enable vimeocdn.com in my
NoScript add-on.

[Des Habille]

On 15/04/2017 12:35, Peter wrote:

[Mayayana]

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JP...@255soft.uk> wrote

| Sorry
| Because of its privacy settings, this video
| cannot be played here.
|

Script? Cookies? I've seen a similar message with
sites like Vimeo when I try to access the actual file.
I got to the point that I just ignore such things. If
I can download it at youtube I will. If they want me
to accept a TV show online and won't let me access
the file itself, I just skip it.
They rig it so that the only way it will work is if you
passively allow them to control it. I'd guess that
Chrome is allowing something that FF or an extension
is blocking.

[Wolf K.]

OK on FF 45.8.0 ESR, Win8.1-64


--
Wolf K.
https://kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"What good is it having lower taxes when you can’t drink the water?”

[WaltS48]

On 4/14/2017 7:30 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/river-speaks?platform=hootsuite
>
> When I view that page in my Firefox26 with addons, the page loads,
> except that where the video is, it says
>
> Sorry
> Because of its privacy settings, this video
> cannot be played here.
>
> When I view the _same_ page, on this same computer, with Chrome (Version
> 49.0.2623.112 m), the video is playable.
>
> I did try turning AdNlockPlus off, but no change (other than I had the
> feeling the page took longer to load).
>

Installed Firefox 26 on my Windows 10 laptop, created a test profile, no
extensions, Flash set to "Ask to Activate", quit and restarted the browser.

Opened the link and it plays fine here without Flash.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0

[EE]

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

> http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/river-speaks?platform=hootsuite
>
> When I view that page in my Firefox26 with addons, the page loads,
> except that where the video is, it says
>
> Sorry
> Because of its privacy settings, this video
> cannot be played here.
>
> When I view the _same_ page, on this same computer, with Chrome (Version
> 49.0.2623.112 m), the video is playable.
>
> I did try turning AdNlockPlus off, but no change (other than I had the
> feeling the page took longer to load).
>

It does not work with my Mozilla browsers or with Opera, but does work
with Safari.

[VanguardLH]

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JP...@255soft.uk> wrote:

> http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/river-speaks?platform=hootsuite
>
> When I view that page in my Firefox26 with addons, the page loads,
> except that where the video is, it says
>
> Sorry
> Because of its privacy settings, this video
> cannot be played here.
>
> When I view the _same_ page, on this same computer, with Chrome (Version
> 49.0.2623.112 m), the video is playable.
>
> I did try turning AdNlockPlus off, but no change (other than I had the
> feeling the page took longer to load).

In Firefox 52.0.0, I had to allow vimeo.com and videocdn.com off-domain
scripts in uMatrix to let the video play (i.e., it's scripted, not just
streamed).

When you go into about:addons and look at the available video decoder
plug-ins, do you have the Cisco Open H.264 and Widevine decoders? When
you go to about:preferences#applications, is webm a defined MIME
filetype? Chrome probably works because you have a later or latest
version of it that includes the requisite decoders for that video
content.

The video comes from off-domain: vimeo. See:

https://vimeo.com/help/compression

and:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Fundamentals/Audio_and_video_delivery/H.264_support_in_Firefox
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats

I didn't bother trying to dig into what codec or filetype was used for
the embedded video in your example web page. I'm guessing Firefox has
added more video compression schema support since its 4-year old version
26 product. If you can figure out what compression scheme is used for
that video, you could see if it is supported per the following list:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Basics_of_HTTP/MIME_types/Complete_list_of_MIME_types

Using a video stream capture tool, this "video" is actually sliced into
5 parts: segment-1-m4s.mp4, segment-1-m4s 1.mp4, segment2-m4s.mp4,
segment-3-m4s.mp4, and segment-4-m4s.mp4. MP4 is just the container.
M4S is the compression scheme. M4S just means a streamed segment in MP4
container format. Alas, after capturing the video streams, VLC is
unable to play the saved files so it doesn't know the compression
scheme. Neither could my other video players. Maybe web browsers will
join the segments to have a complete scheme to decode but players can't
get enough info from just a segment.

You'll have to update to a [much] later version of Firefox or move to
Google Chrome (or one of the other Chromium variants).

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message
<mailman.1720.149223806...@lists.mozilla.org>, Andy

Thanks. Interesting, though, that when you turned off H264, you didn't
get the "cannot be played here" message, just a black rectangle.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Scheisse," said Pooh, trying out his German.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message
<mailman.1713.149227263...@lists.mozilla.org>,

WaltS48 <thali...@REMOVEaol.com> writes:
>On 4/14/2017 7:30 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/river-speaks?platform=hootsuite
>> When I view that page in my Firefox26 with addons, the page loads,
>> except that where the video is, it says
>> Sorry
>> Because of its privacy settings, this video
>> cannot be played here.
>> When I view the _same_ page, on this same computer, with Chrome
>>(Version
>> 49.0.2623.112 m), the video is playable.
>> I did try turning AdNlockPlus off, but no change (other than I had
>>the
>> feeling the page took longer to load).
>>
>
>Installed Firefox 26 on my Windows 10 laptop, created a test profile,
>no extensions, Flash set to "Ask to Activate", quit and restarted the
>browser.

Wow, that's being helpful beyond the call of duty! Thanks.

>
>Opened the link and it plays fine here without Flash.

Curiouser and curiouser!

>
>Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0

The only difference being the underlying OS, and my choice of add-ons.
(And possibly cookies etc., though I usually allow cookies.)

As someone else (I think it was Mayayana or VanguardLH) said, usually,
if they've broken a video enough that I can't see it (or save it with
DownloadHelper), I don't bother. I'm not sure what possessed me to try
Chrome in this case. (I actually went and got DownloadHelper for Chrome,
but it's a few versions behind the one for Firefox, and couldn't save
the video from Chrome [it told me at an early stage it wasn't going to
be able to].)

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

[WaltS48]

On 4/15/17 11:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message
> <mailman.1713.149227263...@lists.mozilla.org>,
> WaltS48 <thali...@REMOVEaol.com> writes:
>> On 4/14/2017 7:30 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> http://www.yorkshirefilmarchive.com/film/river-speaks?platform=hootsuite
>>> When I view that page in my Firefox26 with addons, the page loads,
>>> except that where the video is, it says
>>> Sorry
>>> Because of its privacy settings, this video
>>> cannot be played here.
>>> When I view the _same_ page, on this same computer, with Chrome
>>> (Version
>>> 49.0.2623.112 m), the video is playable.
>>> I did try turning AdNlockPlus off, but no change (other than I had the
>>> feeling the page took longer to load).
>>>
>>
>> Installed Firefox 26 on my Windows 10 laptop, created a test profile,
>> no extensions, Flash set to "Ask to Activate", quit and restarted the
>> browser.
>
> Wow, that's being helpful beyond the call of duty! Thanks.

Sometimes I like to provide actual support, not speculation.

>>
>> Opened the link and it plays fine here without Flash.
>
> Curiouser and curiouser!
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0
>
> The only difference being the underlying OS, and my choice of add-ons.
> (And possibly cookies etc., though I usually allow cookies.)
>

That is curious. I was using Windows 10, not Windows 8.1. Maybe Firefox
26 doesn't recognize Windows 10.

No more ideas here, if you have tried Safe Mode and it didn't play, then
tried a test profile and it didn't play.

--
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Coexist <https://www.coexist.org/>
National Popular Vote <http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/>
Ubuntu 16.04LTS

[Peter]

On 4/15/2017 4:03 AM, VanguardLH wrote:

> When you go into about:addons and look at the available video
> decoder plug-ins, do you have the Cisco Open H.264 and Widevine
> decoders?

Yes.

> When you go to about:preferences#applications, is webm a
> defined MIME filetype?

Not sure, webm is found as "video/webm". The designated action is "save
file". Is that correct? If not, please tell me how to do it, and what
to do to modify that setting so that I can view the video on the link in
question. Once again, I'm using the most up to date version of FF (32
bit) for Windows on the release channel (ver.52.0.2).

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message
<mailman.1725.149234725...@lists.mozilla.org>,

WaltS48 <thali...@REMOVEaol.com> writes:
>On 4/15/17 11:04 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> In message
>><mailman.1713.149227263...@lists.mozilla.org>,
>>WaltS48 <thali...@REMOVEaol.com> writes:

[]

>>> Installed Firefox 26 on my Windows 10 laptop, created a test
>>>profile, no extensions, Flash set to "Ask to Activate", quit and
>>>restarted the browser.
>> Wow, that's being helpful beyond the call of duty! Thanks.
>
>Sometimes I like to provide actual support, not speculation.
>

Thanks; I do appreciate it, and feel guilty that I can't be bothered to
do as much myself after you've tried (see below).

>>>
>>> Opened the link and it plays fine here without Flash.
>> Curiouser and curiouser!
>>>
>>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0
>> The only difference being the underlying OS, and my choice of
>>add-ons. (And possibly cookies etc., though I usually allow cookies.)
>>
>
>That is curious. I was using Windows 10, not Windows 8.1. Maybe Firefox
>26 doesn't recognize Windows 10.

(I take it 6.3 is 8.1.)

>
>No more ideas here, if you have tried Safe Mode and it didn't play,
>then tried a test profile and it didn't play.
>

No, I haven't tried either of those; since it worked in Chrome, I wasn't
going to go further.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

offensive speech is something to be protected, not celebrated.
- "yoni", 2015-8-5

[Mayayana]

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JP...@255soft.uk> wrote

| Chrome in this case. (I actually went and got DownloadHelper for Chrome,
| but it's a few versions behind the one for Firefox, and couldn't save
| the video from Chrome [it told me at an early stage it wasn't going to
| be able to].)

I don't think you'll have any luck with such things.
The video is coming from Vimeo. They don't link a
file. Just a number. I'm guessing it's an ID
for a backend database. While Youtube obscures
the file URL, Vimeo seems to be only doing a stream
from their site. You never get a chance to access
the file at all. Maybe one of those record-as-you-play-it
programs would work. I don't know. It doesn't seem
worth that much trouble. I gave up on seeing Vimeo
videos. Though I did record a whole video recently
as it played. (I'm not about to watch a long video
that I can't fast-forward or save part for later.)
So I just left a spare PC to record for 90 minutes
and went back later to watch it. That was someplace
called s3bubble.com, which linked to amazonaws using
a complicated URL with a code that expired quickly.
I don't know enough of the technical details to know
how these things work or whether s3bubble works the
same way as Vimeo. I recorded it in VLC and save it
as a file. I don't remember exactly how, but there are
instructions online.

When feasible I write to people
and suggest they make the video available for
download. Other than that I just avoid Vimeo links.
It seems a shame. So much is non-commercial and
there's no reason to block the download of such things.
I think the people with the websites just don't think it
through. Maybe they don't want the traffic volume
on their own site and Vimeo is an easy option. Whatever
it is, an awfully lot of sites seem to be using Vimeo.

That's why I mentioned things like cookies and script.
Or referrer. Etc. Anything that they might check -- to
make sure that you're who you say you are and not up
to any funny business -- could be an obstacle. A site like
Vimeo is like the old Outer Limits: "Don't try to fix the
horizontal or the vertical. Until this movie ends, we
will have complete control of your TV set." :)

If I were determined to watch Vimeo videos I might
be tempted to install Chrome to do it. Chrome is no
good for privacy, anyway, so why not just use it as
a dedicated tool only for things like Vimeo that don't
allow privacy?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message
<mailman.1774.149243419...@lists.mozilla.org>,

Mayayana <maya...@invalid.nospam> writes:
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JP...@255soft.uk> wrote
>
>| Chrome in this case. (I actually went and got DownloadHelper for Chrome,
>| but it's a few versions behind the one for Firefox, and couldn't save
>| the video from Chrome [it told me at an early stage it wasn't going to
>| be able to].)
>
> I don't think you'll have any luck with such things.

Someone in this thread said he had (and made a DVD of it, natch!).
[]

>the file at all. Maybe one of those record-as-you-play-it
>programs would work. I don't know. It doesn't seem

I don't _think_ he used one of those; he certainly didn't say (he might
have, as it's only 17-odd minutes).
[]

> If I were determined to watch Vimeo videos I might
>be tempted to install Chrome to do it. Chrome is no
>good for privacy, anyway, so why not just use it as
>a dedicated tool only for things like Vimeo that don't
>allow privacy?
>

I use it for things my Firefox26-plus-addins won't render (either
properly, or at all). I usually don't leave it running.

>
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Yet I still seem to be master of my fate. The boat may be only a canoe, but I'm
paddling it. (Katharine Hepburn)

[Mayayana]

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JP...@255soft.uk> wrote


| >| Chrome in this case. (I actually went and got DownloadHelper for
Chrome,
| >| but it's a few versions behind the one for Firefox, and couldn't save
| >| the video from Chrome [it told me at an early stage it wasn't going to
| >| be able to].)
| >
| > I don't think you'll have any luck with such things.
|
| Someone in this thread said he had (and made a DVD of it, natch!).

?? I meant saving it with DownloadHelper from Vimeo.
I don't see any posts here saying that someone did
that. Only that some people managed to view it. As
far as I can tell, DH simply can't see it.
Vanguard managed to save the stream, but even
that turned out to be broken.

Vimeo is a weird operation. I can't get their website to
work at all. Not only lots of script. Even their CSS is
obfuscated. Weird.

%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F
svg%22%20width%3D%22500%22%3E%3Crect%20x%3D%220%22%20width%3D%2229%22%20height%3D%22100%25%22%20style%3D%22fill%3A%2328a1d8%22%2F%3E%3Crect...
etc

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message
<mailman.1777.149243833...@lists.mozilla.org>,

Mayayana <maya...@invalid.nospam> writes:
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JP...@255soft.uk> wrote
>
>
>| >| Chrome in this case. (I actually went and got DownloadHelper for
>Chrome,
>| >| but it's a few versions behind the one for Firefox, and couldn't save
>| >| the video from Chrome [it told me at an early stage it wasn't going to
>| >| be able to].)
>| >
>| > I don't think you'll have any luck with such things.
>|
>| Someone in this thread said he had (and made a DVD of it, natch!).
>
>?? I meant saving it with DownloadHelper from Vimeo.
>I don't see any posts here saying that someone did
>that. Only that some people managed to view it. As
>far as I can tell, DH simply can't see it.
> Vanguard managed to save the stream, but even
>that turned out to be broken.

I must be getting senior; I could have _sworn_ someone said they'd saved
"a River Speaks" as a DVD, because I thought that was perhaps overkill;
however I've just read - twice! - every post in this thread, and can't
find it!

>
> Vimeo is a weird operation. I can't get their website to
>work at all. Not only lots of script. Even their CSS is
>obfuscated. Weird.
>
>%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F
>svg%22%20width%3D%22500%22%3E%3Crect%20x%3D%220%22%20width%3D%2229%22%20
>height%3D%22100%25%22%20style%3D%22fill%3A%2328a1d8%22%2F%3E%3Crect...
>etc
>

I can crack that - know your ASCII (-: ...
>
<svg xmlms=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="500"><rect x="0"
width="29" height="100%" style="fill~#28ald8"/><rect...etc

(Not that I'm much the wiser; I've never gotten into more recent HTML.)

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

We shall never - never! - allow foreigners to run our economy. They might cure
it. (George Mikes, "How to be Decadent" [1977].)

[Kingdaddy 2]

My main site is VIMEO. They use a different business model (no ads) and
is different... more business client audience instead of users to serve ads.

My main complaint with Youtube is that I can't update/replace a video.
On Vimeo, I can do that repeatedly. I can also add subtitles with an
SRT file.

Also, I can easily download my Full HD Vimeo processed file in various
resolutions.

[Kingdaddy 2]

What are you trying to do on VIMEO?

I have embedded video on this page.
Look for link at left "38 sec. HD movie clip"
http://rnc3.net/clips/Upper-Neuse/whee-hill/index.html

Carl

[Mayayana]

"Kingdaddy 2" <king...@castle.org> wrote

| What are you trying to do on VIMEO?
|
| I have embedded video on this page.
| Look for link at left "38 sec. HD movie clip"
| http://rnc3.net/clips/Upper-Neuse/whee-hill/index.html
|

Your link works fine. There's an MP4 right there.
The trouble I've had with Vimeo is that the actual
file path is obscured.

I did have good luck with one link last week, though.
First I had to enable frames because the video shows
in an iframe. Then I had to look at the source code of
that frame and fish out the URL, along with some kind
of authorization code that would expire quickly. Then I
had to load that and right-click save. So it seems to be
doable, at least in some cases.

I don't upload anything to any site. I just sometimes
want to see videos or download MP3s, typically of
lectures. Sometimes things like SNL. I can usually get
them easily from Youtube, but with other sites it can
be convoluted and usually not worth the trouble.

Why do I want to download them? Because if I want
to see it at all I'm likely to want to see it again and have
a copy. Also, I don't want to be forced to watch a 1 hour
video all at once, with no jumping ahead or back. And
video players embedded, along with the requisite javascript,
are not safe. Additionally, I don't want to support the
attempt to make people think they're watching a broadcast,
like TV. If I watch a video I'm downloading the video, so
there's no sense trying to block access to that download.
So for all those reasons, I only watch a video if I can
download a copy.

[Kingdaddy 2]

Try this one.
The only problem I have is my foolish speed... for HD. 1/30 is not an
action shutter speed!

"http://rnc3.net/greenway/neuse/lower_neuse/clayton/clayton-%28Downstream-3%29.html"
- or http://tinyurl.com/chasing-rider


You can do all of those actions you mentioned.
Pass the mouse over the video, the progress bar can be clicked anywhere.
This one is an embed (You can see the vimeo logo.)

If you click the logo, it takes you to vimeo, that actual video.
- You can click through the progress bar.
- scroll down, there is a DOWNLOAD button. It works.

My client experience with their tech support... it is the best on the
planet.
....and relatively prompt.

Carl

[Mayayana]

"Kingdaddy 2" <king...@castle.org> wrote

| Try this one.
| The only problem I have is my foolish speed... for HD. 1/30 is not an
| action shutter speed!
|
|
"http://rnc3.net/greenway/neuse/lower_neuse/clayton/clayton-%28Downstream-3%29.html"
| - or http://tinyurl.com/chasing-rider
|
|
| You can do all of those actions you mentioned.
| Pass the mouse over the video, the progress bar can be clicked anywhere.
| This one is an embed (You can see the vimeo logo.)
|
| If you click the logo, it takes you to vimeo, that actual video.
| - You can click through the progress bar.
| - scroll down, there is a DOWNLOAD button. It works.
|

That all assumes loading the video and enabling javascript,
which I don't want to do. Nor do I want to install Flash or
allow video to play in webpages. It's not safe. And I don't
know how people tolerate trying to read a webpage with
all that cacophony going on.

Here's the link that worked (probably for only a minute or so):

https://16-lvl3-pdl.vimeocdn.com/01/740/5/128703631/
371185366.mp4?expires=1493215219&token=0ce107cf3529678ab04ce

This is a technique that I only discovered recently, after
some seaching online. First, I go to the link in Firefox, where
I have frames enabled. (Normally I use Pale Moon with frames
disabled, for security, privacy and 3rd-party ad removal).
With the page loaded I see an iframe that's black. I then
right-click -> This Frame -> Frame Source. Searching the frame
source for "mp4" I eventually find the link. The link alone won't
work. I have to use the whole thing above, which is authorizing
access for a brief period. Loading that in the address bar I can
get a direct download.

If I load that frame it's just a blank page. There isn't actually
a webpage there. It's nearly all script.

Probably most of your friends can't do all that, but probably
most of them don't really care. I'll take your word for it that
it can be downloaded your way, but having to play the video in
order to download is not a solution in my mind.

In the past I've seen messages like John was getting, about
"privacy settings" preventing a video from playing. I'm not
sure what caused that, but I think it was something I did to
try to get directly to the video. I seem to remember that directly
loading the iframe URL caused that sometimes.
I'm guessing there may also be different settings available
to the posters. Maybe your video is available while the same
thing wouldn't work for another. I know that's true of Youtube.
Download Helper gets most Youtube videos, but some commercial
videos seem to link to outside sources that block retrieval.
For instance, VEVO, which seems to be some kind of pop
music site that only links through Youtube as a marketing
ploy, but is actually hosting files on their own site.

I was struck... so to speak... by those clever yellow bicyclist
killers on the bridges. I wonder whose bright idea it was to
put a block in the middle of the path "for safety" that would
send a bicyclist over the handlebars if they're not being
attentive. :)

[Kingdaddy 2]

Those yellow posts are to keep gasoline vehicles off the trail.
Maintenance vehicles / contractors have a key and the pole lays down.
Some maintenance is golf carts-like vehicles, and commercial
lawn-mowers; and many farm tractors with sweepers, blowers, etc. There
are many, and very active. Currently they are cleaning the mud off the
trails after flooding. I ride around 20 miles a day.

[Kingdaddy 2]

On 4/26/2017 9:25 AM, Mayayana wrote: