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RF

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Dec 4, 2007, 2:26:50 PM12/4/07
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I have a grey band across the top of FFox that is a waste of space. It
is under the address box and the complete width of the browser window.

I'd like to know why it's there and how to dump it?

TIA

RF

Ron K.

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Dec 4, 2007, 2:31:44 PM12/4/07
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That one is easy and is done by use of the View menu and use of the
Toolbar item to select which bars are visible. Toggle off the Bookmarks
bar, since you are not using it. Or you can add frequently used
bookmarks on that bar by dragging one down from the URL bar to the
bookmarks bar.

--
Ron K.
Who is General Failure, and why is he searching my HDD?
Kernel Restore reported BSOD use by Major Error to msg the enemy!

RF

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Dec 5, 2007, 2:07:45 AM12/5/07
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Ron K. wrote:
> RF wrote:
>> I have a grey band across the top of FFox that is a waste of space. It
>> is under the address box and the complete width of the browser window.
>>
>> I'd like to know why it's there and how to dump it?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> RF
>
> That one is easy and is done by use of the View menu and use of the
> Toolbar item to select which bars are visible. Toggle off the Bookmarks
> bar, since you are not using it. Or you can add frequently used
> bookmarks on that bar by dragging one down from the URL bar to the
> bookmarks bar.

Thank you Ron but the one I want to get rid of appears to have no name.
What shows on my v 2.0.0.9 is Navigation, Bookmarks and FirePhisch. It's
the blank one
between Navigation and Bookmarks I want rid of. I tried running my
cursor over it to see
if I could drag it away but that didn't work either.

I regularly use the Bookmarks bar.

RF

squaredancer

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Dec 5, 2007, 8:52:13 AM12/5/07
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On 05.12.2007 08:07, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused RF to generate
the following:? :

couple of "hints" needed here...
1) does that "toolbar that isn't" have any clickable markings, in the
centre or at one end?
2) can you "grab-and-drag" any border, to re-size the bar?
3) can you post a screenshot for us to see what you are getting ?
4) have you tried disabling any extensions you have (or tried FF in
safe-mode) to see if that is the problem?

you can also take a look at these URLs to see if they offer a solution
(after the motto "a grey bar is a grey bar is a grey bar)

http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Gray+bar+below+the+status+bar
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=585653&highlight=gray+bar

(thanks to John Liebson, who posted those URL on 3 December)

reg

RF

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Dec 5, 2007, 9:25:10 PM12/5/07
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squaredancer wrote:
> On 05.12.2007 08:07, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused RF to generate
> the following:? :
>> Ron K. wrote:
>>
>>> RF wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a grey band across the top of FFox that is a waste of space.
>>>> It is under the address box and the complete width of the browser
>>>> window.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to know why it's there and how to dump it?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> RF
>>>>
>>> That one is easy and is done by use of the View menu and use of the
>>> Toolbar item to select which bars are visible. Toggle off the
>>> Bookmarks bar, since you are not using it. Or you can add frequently
>>> used bookmarks on that bar by dragging one down from the URL bar to
>>> the bookmarks bar.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you Ron but the one I want to get rid of appears to have no name.
>> What shows on my v 2.0.0.9 is Navigation, Bookmarks and FirePhisch.
>> It's the blank one
>> between Navigation and Bookmarks I want rid of. I tried running my
>> cursor over it to see
>> if I could drag it away but that didn't work either.
>>
>> I regularly use the Bookmarks bar.
>>
>> RF
>>

Thank you reg.

> couple of "hints" needed here...
> 1) does that "toolbar that isn't" have any clickable markings, in the
> centre or at one end?

No

> 2) can you "grab-and-drag" any border, to re-size the bar?

No

> 3) can you post a screenshot for us to see what you are getting ?

It's a plain grey strip slightly narrower than the Navigation bar.
Otherwise empty.
When I go to View | Toolbars | Customize, a window pops open and
"Bookmarks
Toolbar Items" appears on the left end of that empty bar. The window
shows items,
like printers, that can be dragged and dropped on the bars. I did just
that and when
I dropped them onto the empty bar, they appeared in the Navigation bar.

> 4) have you tried disabling any extensions you have (or tried FF in
> safe-mode) to see if that is the problem?

Safe mode? Not even the Firefox Help file knows what that is ;-)

> you can also take a look at these URLs to see if they offer a solution
> (after the motto "a grey bar is a grey bar is a grey bar)
>
> http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Gray+bar+below+the+status+bar
> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=585653&highlight=gray+bar

No, these are not like mine, which is right under the Navigation bar.

> (thanks to John Liebson, who posted those URL on 3 December)
>
> reg

Thanks again.

RF

Leonidas Jones

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Dec 5, 2007, 10:03:59 PM12/5/07
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RF wrote:
> squaredancer wrote:
>> On 05.12.2007 08:07, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused RF to
>> generate the following:? :
>>> Ron K. wrote:
>>>
>>>> RF wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a grey band across the top of FFox that is a waste of space.
>>>>> It is under the address box and the complete width of the browser
>>>>> window.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to know why it's there and how to dump it?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> RF
>>>>>
/snip/

>> 3) can you post a screenshot for us to see what you are getting ?
>
> It's a plain grey strip slightly narrower than the Navigation bar.
> Otherwise empty.
> When I go to View | Toolbars | Customize, a window pops open and
> "Bookmarks
> Toolbar Items" appears on the left end of that empty bar. The window
> shows items,
> like printers, that can be dragged and dropped on the bars. I did just
> that and when
> I dropped them onto the empty bar, they appeared in the Navigation bar.
>
>> 4) have you tried disabling any extensions you have (or tried FF in
>> safe-mode) to see if that is the problem?
>
> Safe mode? Not even the Firefox Help file knows what that is ;-)
>
>> you can also take a look at these URLs to see if they offer a solution
>> (after the motto "a grey bar is a grey bar is a grey bar)
>>
>> http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Gray+bar+below+the+status+bar
>> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=585653&highlight=gray+bar
>
> No, these are not like mine, which is right under the Navigation bar.
>
>> (thanks to John Liebson, who posted those URL on 3 December)
>>
>> reg
>
> Thanks again.
>
> RF

Start>>Programs>>Mozilla Firefox>>Mozilla Firefox Safe Mode

This will start Firefox with extensions disabled, and gives us an idea
if this phantom toolbar is being added by a misbehaving extension.

It sounds rather like the Bookmarks Toolbar, with no Bookmarks Toolbar
folder selected. Try View>>Toolbars, and and uncheck Bookmarks Toolbar.

Alternatively, open Bookmarks Manager, and set a Bookmarks Toolbar folder.

But you say you use the bookmarks toolbar regularly? Hm.

If Safe Mode does not change this, try creating a new profile.

Lee

David McRitchie

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Dec 5, 2007, 11:21:17 PM12/5/07
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"RF" <R...@Den.con> wrote in message news:qPednd2EcMz7wMra...@mozilla.org...

> When I go to View | Toolbars | Customize, a window pops open and
> "Bookmarks Toolbar Items" appears on the left end of that empty bar.

You just described the Bookmarks Toolbar, and in customize
you could move that wording on it to the customize box and
you would see nothing there even in customize and you would
see "bookmarks" as text only in the customize box, drag it
back to the toolbar just so you have what is expected.

If you do not want to display any bookmarks
use View, Toolbars, (uncheck) Bookmarks bar

If you do want to display bookmarks (and/or bookmark) folders
on your bookmarks toolbar, they are in your bookmarks in the
folder named "Personal Toolbar Folder" you are either missing\
the folder, it is empty or something changed your option to another name.
type about:config into the Location Bar (address bar)
filter: personal

You should see an item as
custtoolbar.personal_toolbar_folder defined as string and probably without a value
meaning it would be the default value "Personal Toolbar Folder"

So do you have bookmarks Ctrl+B, do you have a Personal Toolbar Folder"
and only one of them.


--
HTH,
David McRitchie,
Firefox Custom: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm


squaredancer

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Dec 6, 2007, 5:06:33 AM12/6/07
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On 06.12.2007 04:03, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Leonidas Jones


Lee and David - it most certainly sounds (from the latest description)
as if the OP has an *extended* (for lack of a better word) bookmarks
toolbar.

As you have both given advice on this (re-formatting it), maybe we
should wait to see if the OP has any success!

reg

Lars-Erik Østerud

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Dec 6, 2007, 8:36:12 AM12/6/07
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RF wrote:

> I have a grey band across the top of FFox that is a waste of space. It
> is under the address box and the complete width of the browser window.

If you really want to save space check this:
http://osterud.name/firefox.html

To save space on my small laptop I have really
put an effort into minimizing all space waste :-)
--
Lars-Erik - http://www.osterud.name - ICQ 7297605
My Firefox tweaks: http://osterud.name/firefox.html

David McRitchie

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Dec 6, 2007, 1:23:56 PM12/6/07
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"squaredancer" ...

> On 06.12.2007 04:03, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Leonidas Jones
> to generate the following:? :
>> RF wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a grey band across the top of FFox that is a waste of space.
>>>>>>> It is under the address box and the complete width of the browser
>>>>>>> window.
> Lee and David - it most certainly sounds (from the latest description)
> as if the OP has an *extended* (for lack of a better word) bookmarks
> toolbar.
>
> As you have both given advice on this (re-formatting it), maybe we
> should wait to see if the OP has any success!

I think I know what he's talking about now, the tabs themselves are lower
that the background. So if you have say two tabs the empty space to the
right is part of the space above the tabs, and it is a gray background.
The toolbars are generally blue or blue gray but depends default theme
which probably takes something on from the operating system.
I had the .tab-close-button with a height of 19 it is now 14 to match the tabs.
I use the one close button on the right side.

So this is what I have in userChrome.css -- the font size on tabs is 80%

.tabbrowser-tabs *|tab {
height: 14px !important;
min-width: 8px !important }
.tab-close-button, .tab-close-button-placeholder {height: 14px !important; padding:0px; margin:0px;}
.tabs-closebutton { height:14px !important; }

RF

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Dec 6, 2007, 2:56:42 PM12/6/07
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Huge thanks to everyone for the great support and my apologies for my
confusion.

The problem was because of my confusion between what I now know as the
Bookmarks toolbar
and the bar that forms when I make multiple tabs. These usually form a
bar that extends the complete
width of the browser and that I mistakenly took as the Bookmark bar.

I used David's suggestion

View, Toolbars, (uncheck) Bookmarks bar

and that "mysterious" grey bar just disappeared.

Thanks again guys.

Without you I'd have to spend all my time trying to figure FireFox :-)

Rf

RF

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Dec 6, 2007, 2:59:47 PM12/6/07
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Lars-Erik Řsterud wrote:
> RF wrote:
>
>> I have a grey band across the top of FFox that is a waste of space. It
>> is under the address box and the complete width of the browser window.
>
> If you really want to save space check this:
> http://osterud.name/firefox.html
>
> To save space on my small laptop I have really
> put an effort into minimizing all space waste :-)

Very interesting and useful Lars.

Tak bra. :-)

RF

Lars-Erik Østerud

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Dec 6, 2007, 3:39:51 PM12/6/07
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RF wrote:

> Very interesting and useful Lars.

It was actually a reaction to MS removing all forms of customization
from IE7 (in IE6 I could put all on one line), so when I found out
that FF could be customized REALLY HEAVY then there was no stopping
me. It's kind of hard adjusting it to FF3.0pre, but looks OK now...

squaredancer

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Dec 6, 2007, 4:46:19 PM12/6/07
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On 06.12.2007 20:56, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused RF to generate
the following:? :

yeah, well! sometimes we do get a brainwave and then, things just seem
to "blurt out" of their own making! *lol*
glad to see it's working as you want it to... and hope you managed to
learn a little in the process

reg

RF

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Dec 6, 2007, 6:47:40 PM12/6/07
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Yes, it's a bit embarrassing when the item we are looking for ends up
just under our noses ;-)

Thanks again

RF

RF

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Dec 6, 2007, 6:52:46 PM12/6/07
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Lars-Erik Řsterud wrote:
> RF wrote:
>
>> Very interesting and useful Lars.
>
> It was actually a reaction to MS removing all forms of customization
> from IE7 (in IE6 I could put all on one line), so when I found out
> that FF could be customized REALLY HEAVY then there was no stopping
> me. It's kind of hard adjusting it to FF3.0pre, but looks OK now...

Yup! FF is amazing in its almost unlimited capacity for adaptation.

Unfortunately, for dummies like me, it's full of holes for falling into ;-)

RF

John Liebson

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Dec 6, 2007, 6:59:57 PM12/6/07
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Ah, ha, I shall make a fortune, by writing "How to Fall Into Holes For
Dummies"....

--
John Liebson

Lars-Erik Østerud

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Dec 7, 2007, 3:25:54 PM12/7/07
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RF wrote:

> Yup! FF is amazing in its almost unlimited capacity for adaptation.
> Unfortunately, for dummies like me, it's full of holes for falling into ;-)

I have many long night "fiddling" with the "userChrome.css" file :-)
Sometimes you have to try and test and try and test a millon times!

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