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Is Mozilla Firefox better than Internet Explorer?

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Holland Numerics Ltd

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Jun 24, 2009, 2:38:13 PM6/24/09
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Please check out http://www.squidoo.com/firefox_ie.

........Phil Holland

kes

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Jun 24, 2009, 2:56:32 PM6/24/09
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Holland Numerics Ltd wrote:
> Please check out http://www.squidoo.com/firefox_ie.
>
> ........Phil Holland

Read the article if you have time to waste.

Quicker option -- Use IE 8 for 20 minutes and convince yourself that it
is shite.

Jordon

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Jun 24, 2009, 2:58:22 PM6/24/09
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Holland Numerics Ltd wrote:
> Please check out http://www.squidoo.com/firefox_ie.

Looks like the choice is clear.

Doesn't #2 in the argument for IE contradict #4 for
the argument against IE?

--
Jordon

Pete Holsberg

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Jun 24, 2009, 4:13:45 PM6/24/09
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Holland Numerics Ltd wrote:
> Please check out http://www.squidoo.com/firefox_ie.

Spell checker?


Tarkus

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Jun 24, 2009, 4:19:04 PM6/24/09
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Wouldn't an open mind be more useful? You still might find it to be
shite, but at least you'd have arrived at that conclusion honestly.

Ron Hunter

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Jun 24, 2009, 8:31:33 PM6/24/09
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Holland Numerics Ltd wrote:
> Please check out http://www.squidoo.com/firefox_ie.
>
> ........Phil Holland

Really doesn't answer the question posed, now does it. Much of which is
'better' depends on what one needs to do, and how much trouble one wants
to go to in order to get it done. Many of Firefox's best features are
ignored.

Ron Hunter

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Jun 24, 2009, 8:34:13 PM6/24/09
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I have used it for much more than 20 minutes, and anyone who thinks he
can give it (or Firefox) a valid evaluation in 20 minutes just proving
he doesn't really understand how complex ANY browser really is.
In spite of it being far behind Firefox in usability, flexibility, and
customizability, IE8 is a vast improvement over all previous versions,
and should receive at least due credit for that progress.

kes

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Jun 25, 2009, 2:56:08 AM6/25/09
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Ron, the original post was about 'Is Firefox better than Internet
Explorer?' and NOT

"Is IE8 an improvement over all previous versions of IEx, and should it

Ron Hunter

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Jun 25, 2009, 3:11:20 AM6/25/09
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My reply addressed the wisdom, or lack thereof, of using a browser for
20 minutes and rendering an opinion on its usefulness, or quality.

Tarkus

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Jun 25, 2009, 3:38:25 AM6/25/09
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The short answer is there's no answer. It's all subjective. The best
browser is the one YOU like best.

Holland Numerics Ltd

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Jun 25, 2009, 4:14:08 AM6/25/09
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If you join Squidoo you can add to the lists of reasons, vote entries
up or down, and record your comments in the Reader Feedback in
www.squidoo.com/firefox_ie. If you strongly disagree, then, as a
member, you can create your own page to fully illustrate your opposing
views!

........Phil Holland

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Ron Hunter

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Jun 25, 2009, 11:32:40 AM6/25/09
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There are objective aspects to the choice, but mostly it is what you are
used to, and what accommodates your needs best.

Pete Holsberg

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Jun 25, 2009, 11:51:41 AM6/25/09
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Ron Hunter wrote:

> There are objective aspects to the choice, but mostly it is what you are
> used to, and what accommodates your needs best.

Does that mean that IE8 is no longer plagued with the security holes
that earlier IEs had?


Tarkus

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Jun 25, 2009, 2:53:48 PM6/25/09
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My guess is, security holes will continue to pop up from time to time,
and be fixed, just like with Firefox.

Ron Hunter

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Jun 25, 2009, 3:02:31 PM6/25/09
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OOTB it is by far the safest version MS has produced. It can be
tightened ever more by changing options settings. It doesn't even do
ActiveX unless you give it permission.

Miles

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Jun 25, 2009, 3:18:49 PM6/25/09
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but isn't it a fact that historically IE has been much slower than
Mozilla at plugging security holes?
Miles

Ron Hunter

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Jun 25, 2009, 4:24:00 PM6/25/09
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Yes. Such a large company has much greater 'inertia' when it comes to
getting out the patches. However, with MS doing monthly updates, some
of them are often related to either OE or IE. I doubt they are as fast
as Mozilla at the changes, which is one good aspect of the open source
concept.

Tarkus

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Jun 25, 2009, 4:46:52 PM6/25/09
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I have no idea. My memory is that IE is updated more often, through
Windows Update. You can argue that's because IE is more buggy, or you
could argue that it's more attacked because of its popularity. Either
way, I don't think there's a significant difference, as far as either
one plugging holes as they develop.

IE has actually been pretty safe for quite a long time, provided you
adjusted the default security settings. The problem has been most
people don't bother. MS over time has tightened up those defaults, in
no small part because of competition from the likes of Firefox.

Pete Holsberg

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Jun 25, 2009, 6:49:19 PM6/25/09
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Thanks.

Dan

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Jun 27, 2009, 9:57:31 AM6/27/09
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on 6/24/09 3:19 PM Tarkus said the following:

This is support for Firefox. IE is off topic.

Ron Hunter

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Jun 27, 2009, 4:16:25 PM6/27/09
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It seems that comparisons between the two would be on topic.

Jay Garcia

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Jun 27, 2009, 5:18:00 PM6/27/09
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On 27.06.2009 15:16, Ron Hunter wrote:

--- Original Message ---

This entire thread is OFF TOPIC according to the subject. :-) But
seriously, of course it is on-topic to discuss the comparisons regarding
the competition's features/functions, etc.


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Vic Moz Garcia

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Jun 27, 2009, 5:45:42 PM6/27/09
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On 6/27/2009 17:18, Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 27.06.2009 15:16, Ron Hunter wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> Dan wrote:
>>> on 6/24/09 3:19 PM Tarkus said the following:
>>>> kes wrote:
>>>>> Holland Numerics Ltd wrote:
>>>>>> Please check out http://www.squidoo.com/firefox_ie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ........Phil Holland
>>>>> Read the article if you have time to waste.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quicker option -- Use IE 8 for 20 minutes and convince yourself
>>>>> that it is shite.
>>>> Wouldn't an open mind be more useful? You still might find it to
>>>> be shite, but at least you'd have arrived at that conclusion honestly.
>>>
>>> This is support for Firefox. IE is off topic.
>>
>> It seems that comparisons between the two would be on topic.
>
> This entire thread is OFF TOPIC according to the subject. :-) But
> seriously, of course it is on-topic to discuss the comparisons
> regarding the competition's features/functions, etc.
And anyway, ' The Pope is NOT Catholic ', he's German ... =-O

Jay Garcia

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Jun 27, 2009, 5:52:11 PM6/27/09
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--- Original Message ---

Follow up to .general

You mean there aren't any Catholics that are German?

Tarkus

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Jun 27, 2009, 7:49:00 PM6/27/09
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German is a religion?

And to stay on topic (lest some ass tries to play moderator without the
credentials), does anyone know if the Vatican uses Firefox?

Jay Garcia

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Jun 27, 2009, 8:03:37 PM6/27/09
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--- Original Message ---

Anyone can mark a subject as OT as well as set a followup.

Yes, the Vatican uses Firefox, God uses it and set the rules. :-D

»Q«

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Jun 27, 2009, 11:52:35 PM6/27/09
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In <news:WrydnQCY15dxMtvX...@mozilla.org>,
Tarkus <karn...@atlantabraves.net> wrote:

> And to stay on topic (lest some ass tries to play moderator without
> the credentials), does anyone know if the Vatican uses Firefox?

Yeah, they do. Mozilla gathered a lot of download stats on the day
Fx 3 was released, and .va had the second-highest per capita download
rate, after Lithuania.

<http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/blogpotato/lithuania-the-biggest-downloader-on-firefox-3-download-day-25453>

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Jun 28, 2009, 1:04:21 AM6/28/09
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pfft, God uses Lynx!

kes

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Jun 28, 2009, 3:11:18 AM6/28/09
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�Q� wrote:
> In <news:WrydnQCY15dxMtvX...@mozilla.org>,
> Tarkus <karn...@atlantabraves.net> wrote:
>
>> And to stay on topic (lest some ass tries to play moderator without
>> the credentials), does anyone know if the Vatican uses Firefox?
>
> Yeah, they do. Mozilla gathered a lot of download stats on the day
> Fx 3 was released, and .va had the second-highest per capita download
> rate, after Lithuania.
>
> <http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/blogpotato/lithuania-the-biggest-downloader-on-firefox-3-download-day-25453>
>

Thank you �Q�. (That is the sort of gem that puts the fizz in my day! )

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Tarkus

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Jun 28, 2009, 4:21:36 PM6/28/09
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He did neither.

> Yes, the Vatican uses Firefox, God uses it and set the rules. :-D

That's good to know.

JollyJo

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Jul 1, 2009, 4:22:27 PM7/1/09
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Yeah, and the massive bloating we are seeing in FF
is coming from a !!!!SINFUL!!! world, especially
the clowns at FF for producing so much barely
usable crap. It's time for a purge!

Much of the reported huge downloads will probably
end up in the trash can where disappointed
downloaders will put them.

How about an efficient slimmed down FF for a change?

ian Long

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Jul 3, 2009, 9:40:11 AM7/3/09
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Hi,

I'm neither a Catholic nor a German. He was a member of the Hitler Youth
(you didn't get much choice in the matter), but to his credit he went AWOL
rapidly.
"Tarkus" <karn...@atlantabraves.net> wrote in message
news:zLCdnb87rNRRTdrX...@mozilla.org...

Vic Moz Garcia

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Jul 4, 2009, 11:11:24 PM7/4/09
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On 7/3/2009 09:40, ian Long wrote:

So, now we have 3 facts:
1.- He's German.
2.- He was a mini-Nazi.
3.- He's smart (they use FF on the Vatican).

And the question is still open: is the Pope Catholic ??????

Does anybody know what his religion is ????

Lutheran, Jew, Agnostic ..... ????


> Hi,
>
> I'm neither a Catholic nor a German. He was a member of the Hitler Youth
> (you didn't get much choice in the matter), but to his credit he went AWOL
> rapidly.
> "Tarkus"<karn...@atlantabraves.net> wrote in message
> news:zLCdnb87rNRRTdrX...@mozilla.org...
>

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