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George Newton

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May 22, 2013, 7:40:51 PM5/22/13
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I've updated to v21.

I can no longer find the Clear Cache menu item.

Any suggestions?

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George Newton

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May 22, 2013, 8:41:17 PM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 5:20 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:40:51 -0700, George Newton <no...@none.com> wrote:
>
>> I've updated to v21.
>>
>> I can no longer find the Clear Cache menu item.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> It's now under History at the top.
>
>
> KenW

Ken,

The only potentially relevant menu item I see in v21 under "History" is
"Clear Recent History" which is not something I would do often, if at all.

The Web Cache is not and should not become synonymous with History.

Under Tools > Options > Advanced on the Network Tab, the second panel
down is labelled "Cached Web Content." I don't know in which version
this feature was added to this tab, but it has a Clear Now button which
will clear the Web Content Cache.

I don't understand the logic behind making this oft-needed feature
buried so deep into the Options.

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WaltS

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May 22, 2013, 8:50:14 PM5/22/13
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Where was it before?

I don't see any Clear Cache menu item anywhere in my Firefox 20.0.

I do see Clear Recent History under tools, which has a cache item in it,
if you click the Details button.

Firefox 20.0 also has the Cached Web Content in the Network tab of
Advanced

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MrGatoChile

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May 22, 2013, 9:02:06 PM5/22/13
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It's in the Tools/Options/Network tab, for me i have installed PrefBar
6 and configure the buttons to the most used by me.

You only have to press F8 and the clear cache button and F8 to hide the
PrefBar.

https://addons.mozilla.org/es/firefox/addon/prefbar/?src=search
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George Newton

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May 23, 2013, 5:55:22 PM5/23/13
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On 5/22/2013 6:24 PM, Ken1943 wrote:

> I select Clear History which opens a box where I have Everything selected
> so I can select what I want cleared.
> Only way I have ever used it.
>
>
> KenW


Ok, I've clicked the History/Clear Recent History menu items and it
brings up the dialog that I used to be able to access under the Tools menu.

Now that I see the same dialog, now in History/Clear Recent History --
or maybe it has been there, also, for some number of revisions -- I have
only Cache checked, which is how I've used FF or my browsers for many
years now: I only want to clear the Web Cache.

It is a nice feature to be able to get more specific info about that,
now that I see it, under the Tools/Advanced/Network tab.

I have no clue how long that has been there under the
Tools/Advanced/Network tab, but it's nice to have the more specific data
of the current amount stored and the confirmation that the size has
changed when I click the Clear Now button.

In a related issue, during a number of the 'teens' versions of FF, I
would have the Clear History (Cache only checked) appear to lock up when
attempting to clear the Cache. The Clear Now button on the Clear History
dialog would stay pressed down for some time, and if I clicked on the
title bar of the dialog, the title would change from 'Clear All History'
to 'Clear All History (Not Responding)' or 'Clear All History ('Firefox
Not Responding')', and then after about a minute and a half, the dialog
would close and everything seemed ok.

This is on a Win7 x64/sp1 16GB, six-core system.

I never figured out what was up with that.

Do any of you folks use the 'Override Automatic Cache Management' and
increase it beyond the default of 350MB?

I noticed the other day when I first discovered the Web Cache feature in
the Tools/Advanced/Network tab, that my currently stored amount was
354MB, with the 'Override Automatic Cache Management' unchecked.

Clicking that Clear Now button resulted in the very same minute and half
delay in the dialog closing/responding.

Is this some bug caused by the Automatic Cache Management allow more
than it is supposed to store?

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MrGatoChile

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May 23, 2013, 6:10:24 PM5/23/13
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In the menu Tools(menu)/Options(menu)/Advance(Icon)/Network(Tab)/Content
web cache, press "Clean now"

WaltS

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May 23, 2013, 6:22:29 PM5/23/13
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On 05/23/2013 06:10 PM, MrGatoChile wrote:
> Do any of you folks use the 'Override Automatic Cache Management' and
>>increase it beyond the default of 350MB?
>>

I don't. It is one of the "Checkboxes that Kill", and may be removed
although I don't see a bug filed for it.

<http://limi.net/checkboxes-kill>

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George Newton

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May 23, 2013, 6:37:37 PM5/23/13
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On 5/23/2013 3:22 PM, WaltS wrote:
> On 05/23/2013 06:10 PM, MrGatoChile wrote:
>> Do any of you folks use the 'Override Automatic Cache Management' and
>>> increase it beyond the default of 350MB?
>>>
>
> I don't. It is one of the "Checkboxes that Kill", and may be removed
> although I don't see a bug filed for it.
>
> <http://limi.net/checkboxes-kill>
>

Walt, thanks for the specific 'NOT' and for the article link.

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J. P. Gilliver (John)

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May 24, 2013, 2:32:11 AM5/24/13
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In message <l76dnQQWhNa7BwPM...@mozilla.org>, George Newton
Yes, thanks for the link: it allows me to say I fundamentally disagree
with the article's author!

Just because ticking or unticking a box is likely to have results that
_may_ puzzle some users, he wants the developers to remove that option
completely - even suggesting that in a case where only 2% (his
figure^Wguess) of users use such a feature, it be replaced with an
add-on. (For example: if I wanted to turn off automatic loading of
images - the first option he thinks we should be "protected" from - I'd
be pretty peeved if I had to involve an add-on.)

I can foresee at least as many posts here in support asking "where's the
xxx option gone" as there would be (are - or rather aren't) asking about
problems caused by changing one of the settings he objects to being
available.

Even in the case of "Override Automatic Cache Management" he's
scaremongering: this is only a "browser killer" if you _reduce_ the
figure - he shows it set to 0!

I'm glad the developers don't have his "nanny knows best" view, or we
here would get lots of help posts.
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musico...@gmail.com

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May 26, 2013, 12:17:22 AM5/26/13
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I agree fully! I am using 14.0.1 on my PC and love it, but running 21 on the laptop where it is missing under Tools. The "Clear Recent History" option is right under Tools in 14.0.1 but I have to go through all that mumbo jumbo to get to it on v. 21. One would think they would make it easier on you to do this with newer versions but it seems they are regressing, instead. :(

Chris Ilias

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May 26, 2013, 11:30:46 AM5/26/13
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On 2013-05-26 12:17 AM, musico...@gmail.com wrote:
> I agree fully! I am using 14.0.1 on my PC and love it, but running 21
> on the laptop where it is missing under Tools. The "Clear Recent
> History" option is right under Tools in 14.0.1 but I have to go
> through all that mumbo jumbo to get to it on v. 21. One would think
> they would make it easier on you to do this with newer versions but
> it seems they are regressing, instead. :(

I'm not sure I understand your issue. In previous versions, 'clear
recent history' is under the Tools menu. In the latest version, 'clear
recent history' is under the History menu. It's the same number of
steps, just a different menu. What "mumbo jumbo" are you referring to?

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Ron Hunter

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May 26, 2013, 3:15:53 PM5/26/13
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My concern about this setting is that it reads 'clear recent history',
rather than 'configure data retention', which what it actually allows.

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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May 28, 2013, 4:02:38 AM5/28/13
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In message <S5udnVKb0-31wj_M...@mozilla.org>, Ron Hunter
(Just following this thread out of curiosity.) Not to me it doesn't, or
at least that's not what I'd assume from the look of it. Your phrase
"configure data retention" would, to me, imply some control over what is
in future retained; What I see under History, Clear Recent History...
(Firefox 2.0 under Windows XP SP3) is a box in which I select which
aspects and how far back I can clear _now_, nothing about changing how
such will be retained in the future.

Incidentally, the box appears at a given size; if I click the
(downarrow) button next to Details, it gets bigger, to show the top of a
drop-down list (actually showing 7 out of 8 entries, which makes it
being a drop list rather irritating, but I suppose future expansion
might have been in mind). If I now click the (now uparrow) button next
to Details again, the ddlist disappears, but the box doesn't return to
its original size. Just an interesting quirk.
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