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Mumia Wotse

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May 30, 2008, 1:11:51 PM5/30/08
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With FX 2.0, https:// links were colored yellow in the location bar.
Now, with FX 3.0rc1, the links have normal coloring (black on white).

I hope this is just a bug because I liked the yellow highlighting from
before. I'm running Firefox under Debian 4.0 (i386) with a self-compiled
gtk+ 2.10.14. My window manager is IceWm.

Note: This is the case with the default theme. When I install and use an
alternate theme (Azerzy III), the highlighting for https:// links is back.

PS. I attempted to post this to the betatesters mail-list, but the
moderator is evidently NP (not present).

David McRitchie

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May 30, 2008, 4:52:41 PM5/30/08
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"Mumia Wotse" <paduille.4061....@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:WYOdnQB-Roqv2d3V...@mozilla.org...

Hi Mumia,
It is not a bug, it was quite deliberate. I forget the reasoning of dropping the
color on the location bar, and the padlock at the right end of the location bar.
But what the developers want you to do is to click on the favicon at the left
of the location bar to see if it is verified.

Incidentally many users clicked on the favicon to select the location bar
you get the same when click once more to get rid of the popup.
Ctrl+L selects the location bar, same as before, and
Ctrl+K does same for the builtin searchbox.

You could logon to Hendrix and express your opinion, only your opinion, as
you will not get an answer there so don't ask a question there. If you are
successful it probably just means that some documentation will be improved,
too late now for any serious changes to Version 3. http://hendrix.mozilla.org
I don't think much of Hendrix, because most people are either asking questions
or reporting things for which there is a solution, and they will never be told.
But that seems to be the main place that seems to count for getting things changed.
With bugzilla once you get a justified or unjustified WONTFIX or similar answer
you request and any similar request is almost certainly doomed. forever with
little chance of reevaluation.

Here are links for you
Bug 417844 - SSL appearance for site identity button and location bar should be consistent across platforms
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417844

Bug 430790 - Users can be tricked into thinking sites are encrypted with new visual cues added by bug 417844
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430790

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=656581&start=0&sid=f854154c6ea63f70e6e45b275962b9fd
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=643573&sid=4dddf53205bcff0fc1347c380ada0d1b

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HTH,
David McRitchie, extensions I use are briefly documented on my site
Firefox Custom: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm



David McRitchie

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May 30, 2008, 5:07:01 PM5/30/08
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"Mumia Wotse"
> PS. I attempted to post this to the betatesters mail-list, but the
> moderator is evidently NP (not present).

Was that in lowercase, as "np" is a Jason Barnabe.

David McRitchie

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May 30, 2008, 5:19:20 PM5/30/08
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"David McRitchie" <nospam@nospam> wrote in message news:mLidnREZp6Fj8d3V...@mozilla.org...

That looks a bit strange, it was supposed to be
"np" or "Np" is a real live person named Jason Barnabe

Mumia Wotse

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May 30, 2008, 3:57:07 PM5/30/08
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On 05/30/2008 12:11 PM, Mumia Wotse wrote:
> With FX 2.0, https:// links were colored yellow in the location bar.
> Now, with FX 3.0rc1 [...]
>

This affects FX 3.0rc2 also.

The old coloring probably needs to be restored, because it's unsafe for
people to be confused about the security of the website they are visiting.

David McRitchie

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May 30, 2008, 8:39:16 PM5/30/08
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"Mumia Wotse"

> The old coloring probably needs to be restored, because it's unsafe for people to be confused about the security of the website
> they are visiting.

If you go to an unsafe site that popup that you see by clicking on the
favicon of the location bar is an automatic in your face display of a
problem based on downloads of bad site. I don't know if there is a
fake popup for demonstration purposes.

There is a picture in the following blog
with big warning on the picture "Reported attack site!"
http://dailydiy.com/2008/05/21/top-10-firefox-3-features/

so with that information here is a better web page and description
Firefox 3: Site Identification button « Feed The Net
http://feedthenet.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/firefox-3-site-identification-button/

Sonny

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May 30, 2008, 11:47:19 PM5/30/08
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"Mumia Wotse" <paduille.4061....@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:UZudnaIheclb4d3V...@mozilla.org...

You can try this in your userChrome.css file:
@namespace
url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);
#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-textbox-container
,
#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-history-dropmarker
{
background-color: #FFFF72 !important;
}


Mumia Wotse

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May 30, 2008, 11:49:56 PM5/30/08
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On 05/30/2008 07:39 PM, David McRitchie wrote:
> "Mumia Wotse"
>> The old coloring probably needs to be restored, [...]

>
> There is a picture in the following blog
> with big warning on the picture "Reported attack site!"
> http://dailydiy.com/2008/05/21/top-10-firefox-3-features/
>
> so with that information here is a better web page and description
> Firefox 3: Site Identification button « Feed The Net
> http://feedthenet.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/firefox-3-site-identification-button/
>

Thanks David.

The links you posted, both in this message and in your previous one¹,
explain the changes very well.

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http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/3b12c52807244861

Sonny

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May 31, 2008, 12:35:10 AM5/31/08
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"Sonny" <sraz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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or to keep within the color scheme you can use this:

#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-textbox-container
,
#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-history-dropmarker
{
background:
url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAIAAAAUCAYAAACnOeyiAAAAaklEQVR42mOcsO3JfwYgYCxY8gjCyJj/EMJInPMAwoieeR/CCJ12D8LwnwxleE64C2G49N2BMOx7bkMYCtXXIAzlhusQhmb7DQhDv+8WhGE2DarLZi7UHKclULvcV0Ft99sIdVjxkadgBgD1mjdH4HL+OAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==)
repeat-x !important;
color: white !important;
}


»Q«

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May 31, 2008, 12:40:14 AM5/31/08
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I always hated the yellow, which I think of as a "caution" color.
AIUI, yellow was used for SSL because the padlock icons had always
been that color. I see David has posted links to info about the site
ID stuff in Fx 3. If you still want the location bar colored for
encrypted connections, it's still possible. Either putting this in
userChrome.css or using the Stylish extension to manage it will work:

/* SSL coloring */
#urlbar[level="high"][pageproxystate="valid"] > .autocomplete-textbox-container,
#urlbar[level="low"][pageproxystate="valid"] > .autocomplete-textbox-container,
#urlbar[level="high"][pageproxystate="valid"] #autocomplete-security-wrapper,
#urlbar[level="low"][pageproxystate="valid"] #autocomplete-security-wrapper {
background-color: #D0FFD0 !important; /* default was #F7F898; */
color: #000000 !important;
}

#urlbar[level="broken"][pageproxystate="valid"] > .autocomplete-textbox-container,
#urlbar[level="broken"][pageproxystate="valid"] #autocomplete-security-wrapper {
background-color: #FFFFD0 !important;
color: #000000 !important;
}

Andrew DeFaria

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May 31, 2008, 1:51:58 AM5/31/08
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Neither of these do anything for me. Are you sure they are correct? Is something badly line wrapped?
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Sonny

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May 31, 2008, 2:38:03 AM5/31/08
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"Andrew DeFaria" <And...@DeFaria.com> wrote in message
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Try this Andrew:
#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-textbox-container,

Sonny

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May 31, 2008, 2:43:04 AM5/31/08
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"Sonny" <sraz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Did not look like it wrapped correctly, try this again:

Sonny

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May 31, 2008, 2:47:56 AM5/31/08
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"Sonny" <sraz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Andrew
OK, I just copied and pasted the code and it works.


»Q«

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May 31, 2008, 2:49:30 AM5/31/08
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I should note that #D0FFD0 probably isn't a good choice -- it's too close to the
green used by the new site ID stuff. I think #F7F898 was the old yellow color.

Andrew DeFaria

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May 31, 2008, 2:54:03 AM5/31/08
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Sonny wrote:
Did not look like it wrapped correctly, try this again:
#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-textbox-container,
#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-history-dropmarker 
{
background: 
url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAIAAAAUCAYAAACnOeyiAAAAaklEQVR42mOcsO3JfwYgYCxY8gjCyJj/EMJInPMAwoieeR/CCJ12D8LwnwxleE64C2G49N2BMOx7bkMYCtXXIAzlhusQhmb7DQhDv+8WhGE2DarLZi7UHKclULvcV0Ft99sIdVjxkadgBgD1mjdH4HL+OAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==) 
repeat-x !important;
color: white !important;
} 
  
Nope, nada, didn't work. Perhaps I'm expecting something wrong. I thought that this was to fix it so that when I go to an https location the URL text field would have a different background color. I'm not seeing that.
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Sonny

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May 31, 2008, 3:04:13 AM5/31/08
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"Andrew DeFaria" <And...@DeFaria.com> wrote in message
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Try this again, I put the code all on on line:
#urlbar[level=low][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-textbox-container,#urlbar[level=low][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-history-dropmarker,#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-textbox-container,#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-history-dropmarker{background:url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAIAAAAUCAYAAACnOeyiAAAAaklEQVR42mOcsO3JfwYgYCxY8gjCyJj/EMJInPMAwoieeR/CCJ12D8LwnwxleE64C2G49N2BMOx7bkMYCtXXIAzlhusQhmb7DQhDv+8WhGE2DarLZi7UHKclULvcV0Ft99sIdVjxkadgBgD1mjdH4HL+OAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==)repeat-x!important;color:white!important;}


Mumia Wotse

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May 31, 2008, 12:06:32 AM5/31/08
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On 05/30/2008 10:47 PM, Sonny wrote:
> "Mumia Wotse" <paduille.4061....@earthlink.net> wrote [...]

>>
>> The old coloring probably needs to be restored, because it's unsafe for
>> people to be confused about the security of the website they are visiting.
>
> You can try this in your userChrome.css file:
> @namespace
> url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);
> #urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-textbox-container
> ,
> #urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid] > .autocomplete-history-dropmarker
> {
> background-color: #FFFF72 !important;
> }
>
>

Thanks. The security icon changes make sense to me now, so I'll probably
learn to live with them.

Andrew DeFaria

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May 31, 2008, 1:10:55 PM5/31/08
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Sonny wrote:
Try this again, I put the code all on on line:
#urlbar[level=low][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-textbox-container,#urlbar[level=low][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-history-dropmarker,#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-textbox-container,#urlbar[level=high][pageproxystate=valid]>.autocomplete-history-dropmarker{background:url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAIAAAAUCAYAAACnOeyiAAAAaklEQVR42mOcsO3JfwYgYCxY8gjCyJj/EMJInPMAwoieeR/CCJ12D8LwnwxleE64C2G49N2BMOx7bkMYCtXXIAzlhusQhmb7DQhDv+8WhGE2DarLZi7UHKclULvcV0Ft99sIdVjxkadgBgD1mjdH4HL+OAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==)repeat-x!important;color:white!important;}
Nope. Still nothing. What am I supposed to see? I assume a different colored URL bar. I don't. Earlier you had a "@namespace" line. Is that required?

I thought that this might be influenced by the Fission add on I have but I disabled that and still nothing.
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Andrew DeFaria
Just remember one thing in life - no matter where you go - there you are.

Sonny

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May 31, 2008, 2:41:04 PM5/31/08
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"Andrew DeFaria" <And...@DeFaria.com> wrote in message
news:yt-dnTmrI74_G9zV...@mozilla.org...

All of this goes into your userChrome.css file:
@namespace
url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul);

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