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Mike Rocket J Squirrel

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Jul 2, 2008, 5:08:32 PM7/2/08
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FF 3.0

scifi.com (okay, I'm a geek) tells me that "This site requires Flash.
Download the free plugin here."

Which I do: download the plugin from the link (Adobe.com: Adobe Flash
Player version 9.0.124.0 Windows for Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape, Opera),
run the plugin installer, it tells me to close FF, I do it; and the
plugin installer runs w/o complaint. Relaunch FF, no sign of Flash,
scifi.com still wants the plugin installed, Tools > Add-ons > Plugins
shows no sign of Flash.

I'm running NoScript but it doesn't seem to be blocking anything here.

Probably overlooking something simple, I bet.

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Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott

Mark Blain

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Jul 2, 2008, 5:32:10 PM7/2/08
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Mike Rocket J Squirrel <j.michaelD...@gmail.com> wrote in news:pOCdne_PMZzGc_bV...@mozilla.org:


Topic Title Flash 9.0.124.0 MSI plugin does not work when pre-installed
or installed without admin rights
Topic Summary installer runs fine, but browser does not detect the plugin
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=44&catid=184&threadid=1371915&enterthread=y

Mike Rocket J Squirrel

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Jul 2, 2008, 7:08:28 PM7/2/08
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Thanks. Both of my two machines are running Home Edition of XP, so admin
rights are not an issue. Both have FF3. One (the other one) cheerfully
runs the Shockwave and Flash tests that the link at
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ as mentioned in the forum
article you provided. The other machine (this one) runs the Shockwave
test but the Flash test says pretty much what scifi.com's page says:
"You need the latest Flash Player and JavaScript enabled to view this
content." I have Javascript enabled and have downloaded and installed
Flash twice and it simply doesn't show up in Tools > Add-ons > Plugins.

Irwin Greenwald

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Jul 2, 2008, 8:33:43 PM7/2/08
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Search your C drive for the file "NPSWF32.DLL" and copy it to your FF
plugins folder.

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Ron Hunter

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Jul 3, 2008, 3:40:21 AM7/3/08
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Mike Rocket J Squirrel wrote:
Flash plays fine on that site here. I have Flash 10 (beta), and the
Flash ActiveX plugin. If you elect to download Flash 10 beta, be
careful to follow the instructions to uninstall previous version before
installing the Flash 10 version, and the ActiveX plugin that goes with it.


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Mike Rocket J Squirrel

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Jul 3, 2008, 12:24:34 PM7/3/08
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I found the file in My Documents folder. I wonder why/how the downloader
put it there . . . ? Oh but wait -- that NPSWF32.DLL file is dated
11/27/2002 . . . that can't be right.

Okay, try again -- search system and hidden files (should have done that
the first time), and find a 2007 version in
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash but no copy in FF's plugins folder.
Put a copy there, launch FF and hey presto! FF can now run Flash! I
wonder why the installer didn't put one where FF looks for it.

Many thanks, Irwin. Now I can geek out on scifi.com

Life is good.

Ron K.

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:20:13 PM7/3/08
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Mike Rocket J Squirrel keyboarded, On 7/3/2008 12:24 PM :

Normally the path through Windows\system32 works. You were the second
this week that had to manually copy the file to Fx plugins. This might
be related to a pref. application.use_ns_plugin_finder is defaulted to
false. Make a note of this and try toggling to true if Fx has
difficulty finding a plugin.

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Ron K.
Who is General Failure, and why is he searching my HDD?
Kernel Restore reported Major Error used BSOD to msg the enemy!

Mike Rocket J Squirrel

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:51:45 PM7/3/08
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Interesting. It's true that application.use_ns_plugin_finder is false
here. Dollars to donuts, though, the next time I run into this problem
I'll no more be able to remember to toggle this pref than I can recall
my last telephone number.

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Alex K.

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Jul 4, 2008, 7:04:46 AM7/4/08
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Ron K. wrote:
> Mike Rocket J Squirrel keyboarded, On 7/3/2008 12:24 PM :

>> Okay, try again -- search system and hidden files (should have done

>> that the first time), and find a 2007 version in
>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash but no copy in FF's plugins folder.
>> Put a copy there, launch FF and hey presto! FF can now run Flash! I
>> wonder why the installer didn't put one where FF looks for it.
>

> Normally the path through Windows\system32 works. You were the second
> this week that had to manually copy the file to Fx plugins. This might
> be related to a pref. application.use_ns_plugin_finder is defaulted to
> false. Make a note of this and try toggling to true if Fx has
> difficulty finding a plugin.
>

Another possibility to check, I think, is 'plugin.scan.plid.all'.
According to the kb:

"plugin.scan.plid.all Boolean

True (default): Locate plugins by the directories specified in the
Windows registry for PLIDs (currently
HKLM\Software\MozillaPlugins\xxxPLIDxxx\Path)

False: Opposite of the above"

http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Plugin..2A

Just a thought, anyway.

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Alex K.

Ron K.

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Jul 4, 2008, 7:34:19 AM7/4/08
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Alex K. keyboarded, On 7/4/2008 7:04 AM :

Yippie, another one of them hidden Gotchyas if it gets toggled by the
Green Hornet.

mike elliott

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Jul 5, 2008, 11:45:56 AM7/5/08
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"Opposite of the above"? So I wonder whether this setting would send FF on
a mission to scan the entire internal HD and any external drives for
plugins. Reach across the network to mapped drives? The interwebs? Skynet?

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Mike RJS

Alex K.

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Jul 6, 2008, 8:04:09 AM7/6/08
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http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plugin_scanning

"On Windows systems, Mozilla applications will scan for common plugins
at startup, such as Java, Windows Media Player and others, in locations
external to the installation directory plugins folder."

...

"To prevent scanning the directories specified in the Windows registry
for PLIDs, modify the plugin.scan.plid.all preference value from "true"
to "false". Plugins in this category include RealPlayer, as well as
Flash starting with version 9.0 r45"

Based on the above, it looks like it will simply skip that step.
Looking at my registry, under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins, I see entries for Flash,
iTunes, Silverlight, and RealPlayer.

Setting the pref to 'false' will simply tell FF to *not* scan that
section of the registry to find plugins.

Note also, that there are specific prefs, to control Quicktime, SunJRE,
Windows Media Player and Acrobat. Even if the above pref is 'false', it
appears that FF will still look for these plugins in their respective
installation directories.

More info, at the link.

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Alex K.

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