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Ant

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Oct 8, 2009, 2:53:18 AM10/8/09
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Hello!

Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom out
of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18 and
Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It worked in
fine in the past and in Internet Explorer v6.0.

Thank you in advance. :)
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John

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Oct 8, 2009, 7:33:32 AM10/8/09
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Ant wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom out
> of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18 and
> Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It worked in
> fine in the past and in Internet Explorer v6.0.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

Yes! Same problem here on multiple machines with SM 1.1.18, but it works
correctly with IE8. You can still zoom out by moving the slider down,
but clicking on the "-" button at the bottom hasn't been working for weeks.

John
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Bill Spikowski

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Oct 8, 2009, 11:09:25 AM10/8/09
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John wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom out
>> of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18 and
>> Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It worked
>> in fine in the past and in Internet Explorer v6.0.
>>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
>
> Yes! Same problem here on multiple machines with SM 1.1.18, but it works
> correctly with IE8. You can still zoom out by moving the slider down,
> but clicking on the "-" button at the bottom hasn't been working for weeks.


Same problem recently on SM 1.1.10

propman

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Oct 8, 2009, 11:14:47 AM10/8/09
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FWIW, seems to work OK here with FF 3.5.3

propman

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Oct 8, 2009, 11:35:22 AM10/8/09
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Just out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and
proceeded to log onto Google Maps. I made no changes to Seamonkey's
default Options before bringing up the Google Maps web site.

First off, I received a message that "my web browser was not supported
by Google Maps."

After browsing through the "common problems" blurbs, I then went back to
the main page and entered some search terms. The following URL was
generated:

http://local.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&output=html&q=vancouver++british+columbia&btnG=Search+Maps

On this page, the Zoom function wasn't displayed in graphics format but
instead was displayed as a graduated number format; using this the Zoom
functions worked.

Just thought I'd pass this tid-bit along as I would imagine that it can
probably be tweaked/loggled on somewhere in the SM settings for users
that are experiencing buglets with the graphical version.

Ant

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Oct 8, 2009, 1:14:27 PM10/8/09
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Looks like Google Maps doesn't support older Gecko versions. Although SM
v1.1.18 is still supported by Mozilla. :(

I sent an e-mail to Google about this issue and posted this issue in
public:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/maps/thread?tid=175c294b69535ab5 ...


On 10/7/2009 11:53 PM PT, Ant typed:

> Hello!
>
> Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom out
> of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18 and
> Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It worked in
> fine in the past and in Internet Explorer v6.0.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
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David McRitchie

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Oct 8, 2009, 1:23:20 PM10/8/09
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"propman" wrote...

> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>> John wrote:
>>> Ant wrote:
>>>> Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom out of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey
>>>> v1.1.18 and Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It worked in fine in the past and in Internet Explorer
>>>> v6.0.
>>>
>>> Yes! Same problem here on multiple machines with SM 1.1.18, but it works correctly with IE8. You can still zoom out by moving
>>> the slider down, but clicking on the "-" button at the bottom hasn't been working for weeks.
>>
>> Same problem recently on SM 1.1.10
>
>
> Just out of curiosity, I downloaded and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18 and proceeded to log onto Google Maps. I made no changes to
> Seamonkey's default Options before bringing up the Google Maps web site.
>
> First off, I received a message that "my web browser was not supported by Google Maps."
>
> After browsing through the "common problems" blurbs, I then went back to the main page and entered some search terms. The
> following URL was generated:
>
> http://local.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&output=html&q=vancouver++british+columbia&btnG=Search+Maps
>
> On this page, the Zoom function wasn't displayed in graphics format but instead was displayed as a graduated number format; using
> this the Zoom functions worked.
>
> Just thought I'd pass this tid-bit along as I would imagine that it can probably be tweaked/loggled on somewhere in the SM
> settings for users that are experiencing buglets with the graphical version.

Make sure that Java is turned on for Street view and for Zoom to work.
(and if you test with JavaScript and/or Java turned off, don't forget to turn
the turn them back on after testing).

It appears that the output=html created the text like graduated zoom column.

If the above is reduced to http://local.google.ca/maps?q=vancouver+british+columbia
do those that are having trouble with zoom still have a problem. I can zoom with the
mouse wheel and the normal zoom control changes accordingly.

The street view can now show the street view on split above, and the map below.
When I moved the street view icon (man) to street suddenly the window went black
with the map in lower right corner, then expanded upper left of small map and
back to street view again but as described with split (very nice). And if you click in
the lower right corner you change more things. Really get to zoom in on street view
in Vancouver.

http://local.google.ca/maps?source=s_q&q=1556%20W%20Broadway,%20Vancouver,%20BC,%20Canada

Depending which side of the street you start from, you can almost read the billboards on the
bus, and the billboard on the back has a face and it is blurred because if looks like a face, but so too is some of the wording on
the bus side billboard. Some of the signs and prices on newsstand in front of store are readable. Can't read the book covers.

No problem here. All features I see in Firefox 3.5.3 work with Firefox 2.0.0.20. Using Vista Home Basic. Perhaps you are
not blocking some things in Google or blocking the wrong things.
Adblock Plus is turned off at the status bar, so basically probably only the hosts file is active.
I'm not signed into Google on either profile. No problems either with an almost untouched
profile in Firefox3.5.3 either (but it's getting boring now, since there are no differences, same kid on the bicycle).
JavaScript is always turned on, if I turn if off still works, but get the text like zoom column. If Java is turned of Street
view and Zoom do not work.

Maybe I misunderstand "zoom out of the map area view" thought at first it was just zoom, but also checked the navigation aid
above the zoom control, and that works as well. Zoom control slider and + and - above/below slider works. I just use drag
mouse, and use arrow keys normally. Buttons at of map all work.

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Martin Freitag

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Oct 8, 2009, 1:24:51 PM10/8/09
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propman schrieb:
> Bill Spikowski wrote:

>> Same problem recently on SM 1.1.10
>
> FWIW, seems to work OK here with FF 3.5.3


Not much worth, only SM2.0 (beta) uses a comparable gecko-engine.
regards

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Martin Freitag

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Oct 8, 2009, 1:45:26 PM10/8/09
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David McRitchie schrieb:

>
> Make sure that Java is turned on for Street view and for Zoom to
> work.
> (and if you test with JavaScript and/or Java turned off, don't forget
> to turn
> the turn them back on after testing).


Waaah! The zoom-feature does _not_ need java!
Maybe Javscript, but that's something completely different.


> It appears that the output=html created the text like graduated zoom
> column.
>
> If the above is reduced to
> http://local.google.ca/maps?q=vancouver+british+columbia
> do those that are having trouble with zoom still have a problem.

As one leaves the "old "compatibility-mode" with that. ;-)

Ant

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Oct 8, 2009, 2:02:52 PM10/8/09
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On 10/8/2009 10:45 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed:

> David McRitchie schrieb:
>> Make sure that Java is turned on for Street view and for Zoom to
>> work.
>> (and if you test with JavaScript and/or Java turned off, don't forget
>> to turn
>> the turn them back on after testing).
>
> Waaah! The zoom-feature does _not_ need java!
> Maybe Javscript, but that's something completely different.

Yep, JavaScript/JS and Java are two different things.
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David McRitchie

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:02:32 PM10/8/09
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"Ant"
>> Waaah! The zoom-feature does _not_ need java!
>> Maybe Javscript, but that's something completely different.
>
> Yep, JavaScript/JS and Java are two different things.

Did you actually test? Google Maps is very interactive.
Here was what I tested with.
http://local.google.ca/maps?q=vancouver+british+columbia
My Java Plugin is SE 6 U15 (6.0.150.3)

Mark Hansen

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:39:37 PM10/8/09
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What makes you think it uses Java?

propman

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:40:53 PM10/8/09
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Martin Freitag wrote:
> propman schrieb:
>> Bill Spikowski wrote:
>
>>> Same problem recently on SM 1.1.10
>> FWIW, seems to work OK here with FF 3.5.3
>
>
> Not much worth, only SM2.0 (beta) uses a comparable gecko-engine.
> regards
>
> Martin

Note OP comment re: "Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18 and Firefox v2.0.0.20"
which you edited out in your reply.

David McRitchie

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:40:55 PM10/8/09
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"David McRitchie" <fire...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:wIydnfrzVJwnqlPX...@mozilla.org...

Interesting
in Firefox 3.5.3 Java affects zoom, JavaScript does not
in Safari Java does not affect zoom, JavaScript does
back to FF 3.5.3 Now turning off either does not affect zoom

Ant

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:46:35 PM10/8/09
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On 10/8/2009 12:39 PM PT, Mark Hansen typed:

>>>> Waaah! The zoom-feature does _not_ need java!
>>>> Maybe Javscript, but that's something completely different.
>>> Yep, JavaScript/JS and Java are two different things.
>> Did you actually test? Google Maps is very interactive.
>> Here was what I tested with.
>> http://local.google.ca/maps?q=vancouver+british+columbia
>> My Java Plugin is SE 6 U15 (6.0.150.3)
>
> What makes you think it uses Java?

Yeah. Try disabling Java. I had no problems without Java.
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David McRitchie

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:46:53 PM10/8/09
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"Mark Hansen"
> What makes you think it uses Java?

Because I had turned I it off and it failed consistently, but that is no longer the case.
Now turning off JavaScript or Java (or both) does not affect zooming.

propman

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:51:28 PM10/8/09
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Heh! 'puters....don't ya just love 'em? ;-)

Ant

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Oct 8, 2009, 4:08:12 PM10/8/09
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On 10/8/2009 12:51 PM PT, propman typed:

And electronics. :P
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Martin Freitag

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Oct 9, 2009, 3:34:43 PM10/9/09
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propman schrieb:

Yes, therefore FF3.x is not directly comparable at all. ;-)

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Ant

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Oct 10, 2009, 12:18:52 AM10/10/09
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On 10/9/2009 2:19 PM PT, MN typed:

> Clicking on the slider bar just above the '-' also works. It seems like
> just the button itself is dead. The '+' works fine.

Yeah. Still annoying. Oh well. I hope Google fixes this soon!
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John

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Oct 12, 2009, 12:53:51 PM10/12/09
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MN wrote:

> John wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom
>>> out of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18
>>> and Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It
>>> worked in fine in the past and in Internet Explorer v6.0.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>> Yes! Same problem here on multiple machines with SM 1.1.18, but it
>> works correctly with IE8. You can still zoom out by moving the slider
>> down, but clicking on the "-" button at the bottom hasn't been working
>> for weeks.
>>
>> John
>
> Clicking on the slider bar just above the '-' also works. It seems like
> just the button itself is dead. The '+' works fine.
>
> Dave

I have also noticed that while the problem still exists on
maps.google.com, on some other sites which have Google maps as an
embedded application it works correctly.

An example of this is www.qrz.com, a look-up site for ham radio
operators. Put "W1AW" in the search window and when the address
information is displayed click on "Click for more detail..." The zoom
features on the resulting map work fine with SeaMonkey v1.1.18.

Ron Hunter

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Oct 12, 2009, 4:50:06 PM10/12/09
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I use google maps on two different computers, and there is never a
problem with either the + or the -. Maybe you need to look at your
local settings. Perhaps something is getting in the way of the application.

Paul B. Gallagher

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Oct 13, 2009, 7:34:47 AM10/13/09
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Ron Hunter wrote:

> I use google maps on two different computers, and there is never a
> problem with either the + or the -. Maybe you need to look at your
> local settings. Perhaps something is getting in the way of the
> application.

It must be a common setting, because lots of people are affected,
including me.

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Martin

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Oct 15, 2009, 11:12:53 PM10/15/09
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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> I use google maps on two different computers, and there is never a
>> problem with either the + or the -. Maybe you need to look at your
>> local settings. Perhaps something is getting in the way of the
>> application.
>
> It must be a common setting, because lots of people are affected,
> including me.
>
It is functional and displays data on both + and - mouse pushes.

It is possible that you over + and a grid of names comes up. Moved to close.

Martin

Paul B. Gallagher

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Oct 16, 2009, 12:52:27 PM10/16/09
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Martin wrote:

> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>
>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> I use google maps on two different computers, and there is never
>>> a problem with either the + or the -. Maybe you need to look at
>>> your local settings. Perhaps something is getting in the way of
>>> the application.
>>
>> It must be a common setting, because lots of people are affected,
>> including me.
>>
> It is functional and displays data on both + and - mouse pushes.

On my system, the "-" symbol does not respond to mouse clicks. I can
click and drag the slider to good effect, and the "+" symbol responds to
clicks, but the "-" symbol does not.

> It is possible that you over + and a grid of names comes up. Moved
> to close.

Sorry, unable to parse your syntax, even after 24 years as a
professional translator. Can you rephrase?

propman

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Oct 16, 2009, 1:30:42 PM10/16/09
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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Martin wrote:

>> It is possible that you over + and a grid of names comes up. Moved
>> to close.
>
> Sorry, unable to parse your syntax, even after 24 years as a
> professional translator. Can you rephrase?
>

Heh! That one made me go "Eh????" too....... ;-)

Ant

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Oct 31, 2009, 6:43:56 PM10/31/09
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On 10/9/2009 9:18 PM PT, Ant typed:

>> Clicking on the slider bar just above the '-' also works. It seems
>> like just the button itself is dead. The '+' works fine.
>

> Yeah. Still annoying. Oh well. I hope Google fixes this soon!

Still unresolved according to others and me in
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/maps/thread?tid=175c294b69535ab5&hl=en
... :( I never got a reply from Google privately either via its contact
support either. :(
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Ron Hunter

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Nov 1, 2009, 2:30:14 AM11/1/09
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Ant wrote:
> On 10/9/2009 9:18 PM PT, Ant typed:
>
>>> Clicking on the slider bar just above the '-' also works. It seems
>>> like just the button itself is dead. The '+' works fine.
>>
>> Yeah. Still annoying. Oh well. I hope Google fixes this soon!
>
> Still unresolved according to others and me in
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/maps/thread?tid=175c294b69535ab5&hl=en
> ... :( I never got a reply from Google privately either via its contact
> support either. :(

Works here. Local settings, drivers, etc. Those having the problem
should share their configurations looking for commonalities.

propman

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Nov 1, 2009, 3:04:04 AM11/1/09
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It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF 2.5.4
but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here......

Ant

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On 11/1/2009 1:04 AM PT, propman typed:

> It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF 2.5.4
> but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here......

Firefox v2.5.4??? I thought the last v2 was 2.0.0.20.
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propman

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:13:45 AM11/1/09
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Ant wrote:
> On 11/1/2009 1:04 AM PT, propman typed:
>
>> It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF
>> 2.5.4 but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here......
>
> Firefox v2.5.4??? I thought the last v2 was 2.0.0.20.

Typo....should have been 3.5.4

Ant

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:29:00 AM11/1/09
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On 11/1/2009 8:13 AM PT, propman typed:

Interesting. I wonder what bug was fixed in v3.5.4 over v3.5.3. I wonder
if SM v1.1.x will get a fix too? I am sure SM2 (haven't upgraded yet0
has no problems.
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Ron Hunter

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Nov 1, 2009, 8:24:59 PM11/1/09
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Ant wrote:
> On 11/1/2009 8:13 AM PT, propman typed:
>
>> Ant wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2009 1:04 AM PT, propman typed:
>>>
>>>> It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF
>>>> 2.5.4 but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here......
>>>
>>> Firefox v2.5.4??? I thought the last v2 was 2.0.0.20.
>>
>> Typo....should have been 3.5.4
>
> Interesting. I wonder what bug was fixed in v3.5.4 over v3.5.3. I wonder
> if SM v1.1.x will get a fix too? I am sure SM2 (haven't upgraded yet0
> has no problems.

Well, it worked here in 3.5.3 and 3.5.4, and works in 3.6b1. Something
in the prefs.js file? Who knows?

robert...@att.net

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:01:13 PM11/1/09
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Ant wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom out
> of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18 and
> Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It worked in
> fine in the past and in Internet Explorer v6.0.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

As of 11PM EST, it works for me with WinXP & SeaMonkey 2.0. The only
special thing I've done which may not be relevant is to make a new user
agent.
general.useragent.extra.spoof string NOT Firefox/3.5.4

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