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Miles

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:03:51 AM6/16/13
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TB 17.0.6 in Win7 options/security/saved passwords. I open that
window then click on "saved passwords" and the small window opens
which reads "Are you sure you want to show your passwords?" But this
window is only open for a split second and cannot click yes or no.
It's the same if the password window is the small one or full screen.

Have rebooted Windows which didn't correct the issue. Could this be a
bug in this version?
Miles

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Jun 16, 2013, 3:56:41 AM6/16/13
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could be that it is an oos thing as it works fine with my linux 17.0.6.
release.

or, you have a bad install/upgrade.


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Chris Ilias

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Jun 16, 2013, 9:56:58 AM6/16/13
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No problems here. If you go to
Firefox-->Help-->Restart_with_Add-ons_Disabled, does the problem still
occur? If not, the cause is probably an extension. See
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-extensions-themes-to-fix-problems>.

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Miles

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Jun 16, 2013, 1:02:39 PM6/16/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 16-Jun-13 20:56:
Thanks, Chris, I had neglected to mention that I had already tried
safe mode. And hardware acceleration is unchecked. Even if I wanted
to update, cannot for the allocated data for the month is used and it
only downloads at 365kb/sec so that would take all day.

And FYI, I've always considered that window redundant and thought it a
pain. Of course I want to show passwords, why in the hell did I push
the button in the 1st place.

J. P. Gilliver (John)

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Jun 16, 2013, 6:04:50 PM6/16/13
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In message <SbudnchRhZYociDM...@mozilla.org>, Miles
<mile...@REMOVEMEpacbell.net> writes:
>* Chris Ilias wrote, On 16-Jun-13 20:56:
>> On 2013-06-16 12:03 AM, Miles wrote:
>>> TB 17.0.6 in Win7 options/security/saved passwords. I open that window
>>> then click on "saved passwords" and the small window opens which reads
>>> "Are you sure you want to show your passwords?" But this window is
>>> only open for a split second and cannot click yes or no. It's the same
>>> if the password window is the small one or full screen.
[]
>And FYI, I've always considered that window redundant and thought it a
>pain. Of course I want to show passwords, why in the hell did I push
>the button in the 1st place.
>
Seconded. I can see the reason for the confirmation window in a public
environment where you don't know who is looking over your shoulder, but
it should at least have a "yes, and do not again" option. Anyone know of
something - e. g. an about:config setting - that would suppress it?
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An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind. - Mahatma Gandhi
(according to the film Gandhi [1982])

Miles

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Jun 18, 2013, 1:14:06 AM6/18/13
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* J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote, On 17-Jun-13 05:04:
> In message <SbudnchRhZYociDM...@mozilla.org>, Miles
> <mile...@REMOVEMEpacbell.net> writes:
>> * Chris Ilias wrote, On 16-Jun-13 20:56:
>>> On 2013-06-16 12:03 AM, Miles wrote:
>>>> TB 17.0.6 in Win7 options/security/saved passwords. I open that window
>>>> then click on "saved passwords" and the small window opens which reads
>>>> "Are you sure you want to show your passwords?" But this window is
>>>> only open for a split second and cannot click yes or no. It's the same
>>>> if the password window is the small one or full screen.
> []
>> And FYI, I've always considered that window redundant and thought it a
>> pain. Of course I want to show passwords, why in the hell did I push
>> the button in the 1st place.
>>
> Seconded. I can see the reason for the confirmation window in a public
> environment where you don't know who is looking over your shoulder, but
> it should at least have a "yes, and do not again" option. Anyone know of
> something - e. g. an about:config setting - that would suppress it?
>

Hopefully someone knows of an about:config setting to suppress this
popup that is unnecessary 99.99% of the time. The time that passes
between when one presses the button to show passwords and when the
button is pressed for yes or no is miniscule!

Or if not an about:config setting, perhaps an addon is needed?

Miles

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Jun 18, 2013, 1:21:17 AM6/18/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 16-Jun-13 20:56:
Disabled all add-ons and themes & plugins as well as hardware
acceleration was previously disabled.

Disabling and re-enabling plugins is disaster. The button in the
drop down "disable all" is inoperative plus the screen is too high to
fit in the window and each time must be dragged up to reach the upper
buttons -- it's been this way for a multitude of upgrades and nothing
has been done, at least to fix it on my computer. Obviously this is
the 1st and last time for this fiasco. (Won't be using FF passwords,
RoboForm does the job!)
Miles

Chris Ilias

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Jun 18, 2013, 7:47:23 PM6/18/13
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On 2013-06-16 1:02 PM, Miles wrote:
>> On 2013-06-16 12:03 AM, Miles wrote:
>>> TB 17.0.6 in Win7 options/security/saved passwords. I open that window
>>> then click on "saved passwords" and the small window opens which reads
>>> "Are you sure you want to show your passwords?" But this window is
>>> only open for a split second and cannot click yes or no. It's the same
>>> if the password window is the small one or full screen.
>>>
>>> Have rebooted Windows which didn't correct the issue. Could this be a
>>> bug in this version?
>
> Thanks, Chris, I had neglected to mention that I had already tried safe
> mode. And hardware acceleration is unchecked. Even if I wanted to
> update, cannot for the allocated data for the month is used and it only
> downloads at 365kb/sec so that would take all day.
>
> And FYI, I've always considered that window redundant and thought it a
> pain. Of course I want to show passwords, why in the hell did I push
> the button in the 1st place.

Try resetting Firefox:
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/reset-preferences-fix-problems>

Miles

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Jun 19, 2013, 12:32:30 AM6/19/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 19-Jun-13 06:47:
Thanks Chris, I used method 2 deleting prefs.js & user.js, and there
was no moztmp file. This didn't correct the PW button. I have
Roboform and will simply use that and forget about FF Saved Passwords.

Chris Ilias

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Jun 19, 2013, 5:20:43 PM6/19/13
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Try method 1 - the "Reset Firefox" feature. :)

Miles

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Jun 20, 2013, 2:33:35 AM6/20/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 20-Jun-13 04:20:
Chris, thanks, but I didn't use method 1 because -- quote: your
extensions and themes will be removed. End quote. Rather than taking
a screen shot of the extensions & Themes (& plugins?) windows and
copying it to somewhere outside of FF, I'd prefer to simply use
Roboform and/or Last Pass as I have for years and both do the job
without bothering with this useless popup window that isn't working.

WaltS

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Jun 20, 2013, 8:02:10 AM6/20/13
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"Reset Firefox" creates an Old Firefox Data folder on your desktop. All
a user needs to do is copy the extensions folder from that folder to the
new profile folder.

Start Firefox.

It will open with a tab for each extension and theme. Check the enable
check boxes for each extension or theme.

If the extension has one, ignore the restart prompt(s) until you enable
the last one. Restart Firefox. All extensions and themes are restored.

Plugins should not be lost.

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Thunderbird Release
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Miles

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:17:08 PM6/20/13
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* WaltS wrote, On 20-Jun-13 19:02:
That's certainly good news, Walt, and I'll give it a try this weekend.

Chris Ilias

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Jun 20, 2013, 5:49:15 PM6/20/13
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On 2013-06-20 2:33 AM, Miles wrote:
> Chris, thanks, but I didn't use method 1 because -- quote: your
> extensions and themes will be removed. End quote. Rather than taking a
> screen shot of the extensions & Themes (& plugins?) windows and copying
> it to somewhere outside of FF, I'd prefer to simply use Roboform and/or
> Last Pass as I have for years and both do the job without bothering with
> this useless popup window that isn't working.

Given the amount/type of problems you post, my recommendation is to use
the reset feature. :)

Miles

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Jun 23, 2013, 6:32:46 PM6/23/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 21-Jun-13 04:49:
> On 2013-06-20 2:33 AM, Miles wrote:
>> Chris, thanks, but I didn't use method 1 because -- quote: your
>> extensions and themes will be removed. End quote. Rather than taking a
>> screen shot of the extensions & Themes (& plugins?) windows and copying
>> it to somewhere outside of FF, I'd prefer to simply use Roboform and/or
>> Last Pass as I have for years and both do the job without bothering with
>> this useless popup window that isn't working.
>
> Given the amount/type of problems you post, my recommendation is to use
> the reset feature. :)
>

OK, did the reset which has become a mini-disaster:
1) It did not correct the password button problem.
2) FF is no longer on D Drive as was set up years ago and I don't
recall how to move it, if it could be found on C that is. How is this
restored?
3) Profile Mgr won't open, it merely opens FF.
4) Can't find an .slt file or profiles.ini. primarily looking in
desktop/user/roaming/mozilla, firefox/profiles. There are several
profiles listed there, but none have an .ini.
5) Can't copy extensions from the desktop backup to FF as Gilliver
set out. So don't know the names of these since they're codified in
FF, in order to redownload and set up -- which would be far too time
consuming.
At this stage FF is virtually useless so need some answers from
somewhere such as Mozilla or if someone in this newsgroup can lead me
into it.
Miles
3)

Dave Symes

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Jun 24, 2013, 2:08:02 AM6/24/13
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In article <nuKdnaMkWKUO6lrM...@mozilla.org>,
Miles <mile...@REMOVEMEpacbell.net> wrote:
> * Chris Ilias wrote, On 21-Jun-13 04:49:
> > On 2013-06-20 2:33 AM, Miles wrote:
> >> Chris, thanks, but I didn't use method 1 because -- quote: your
> >> extensions and themes will be removed. End quote. Rather than
> >> taking a screen shot of the extensions & Themes (& plugins?) windows
> >> and copying it to somewhere outside of FF, I'd prefer to simply use
> >> Roboform and/or Last Pass as I have for years and both do the job
> >> without bothering with this useless popup window that isn't working.
> >
> > Given the amount/type of problems you post, my recommendation is to use
> > the reset feature. :)
> >

> OK, did the reset which has become a mini-disaster:
> 1) It did not correct the password button problem.
> 2) FF is no longer on D Drive as was set up years ago and I don't
> recall how to move it, if it could be found on C that is. How is this
> restored?

That sound like a disaster waiting to happen.

> 3) Profile Mgr won't open, it merely opens FF.
> 4) Can't find an .slt file or profiles.ini. primarily looking in
> desktop/user/roaming/mozilla, firefox/profiles. There are several
> profiles listed there, but none have an .ini.

On this machine, Win7 Pro, the path is...

C:\Users\Profilename\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles
The .ini file is in the ...\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox directory (So it's
outside the Profiles Dir not in it).

If, as you intimate, at some point, Fx and associations were moved to D:
Lord only knows where they might be hanging out.

> 5) Can't copy extensions from the desktop backup to FF as Gilliver
> set out. So don't know the names of these since they're codified in
> FF, in order to redownload and set up -- which would be far too time
> consuming.

If you open up an extension directory, from within it, load the
"install.rdf" file into a text editor like EditPad or similar (Not Win
NotePad) usually there's a description line that'll give a clue, and
sometimes even a URL to its home page.

For example: Toobar buttons (Michael Buckley)

<em:description>Adds toolbar buttons to the customize... etc etc.

<em:homepageURL>http://codefisher.org/toolbar_button/</em:homepageURL>
^ ^

> At this stage FF is virtually useless so need some answers from
> somewhere such as Mozilla or if someone in this newsgroup can lead me
> into it.
> Miles
> 3)

Mmnnn! that'll be fun... Looks like a detour through the "Twilight Zone"
is required. ;-)

Dave

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Miles

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Jun 24, 2013, 10:38:30 AM6/24/13
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* Dave Symes wrote, On 24-Jun-13 13:08:
Thanks, Dave. Managed to get all of the extensions back into FF as
Gilliver set out Considerably frustrating having to copy all en masse
then open each one and run through the options of each. Spent a few
hours and got most from memory, but several are quite incomplete or
incorrect. Will work on them this week as time avails.

As to the .ini will look farther for it this week and go to Mozilla
setup/help and attempt to ascertain what should be done. I'm sure
there have been many changes since it was set up on D drive.
Miles

Miles

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Jun 27, 2013, 1:17:26 AM6/27/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 21-Jun-13 04:49:
> On 2013-06-20 2:33 AM, Miles wrote:
>> Chris, thanks, but I didn't use method 1 because -- quote: your
>> extensions and themes will be removed. End quote. Rather than taking a
>> screen shot of the extensions & Themes (& plugins?) windows and copying
>> it to somewhere outside of FF, I'd prefer to simply use Roboform and/or
>> Last Pass as I have for years and both do the job without bothering with
>> this useless popup window that isn't working.
>
> Given the amount/type of problems you post, my recommendation is to use
> the reset feature. :)
>

Thanks Chris for the reset idea, but the whole episode was a disaster
as can be seen in this thread.
1) Several important addons are not updated -- such as Roboform
which is just now updated. Exit button, Restart button, Mr. Tech and
a few more of lesser importance. Plus Start Page wouldn't stick for a
few days, tabs have small height, but OK after disabling TabMixPlus
which is needed! Tabs on top wouldn't uncheck for a few days. Items
listed on menu bar frequently grey out causing need to restart FF.
Add-on window wouldn't open -- OK after disabling Mr. Tech. Last Pass
became a button instead of a bar. Addon Menu Editor not in Tools bar.
2) It released the profile from D drive and put it back on C and I
don't have memory as to how to put it back. Hopefully Moz has
something on that.
3) In the process it auto updated to version 22 when it had been set
not to auto update, but that setting was lost as well. And this
version update caused more addon problems than seen in a long long time.
4) Still cannot access passwords -- it didn't correct that issue, so
I need to file a bug report.

I've never wasted so much time with this program and there's still
more time to be wasted. Don't see any benefits from it, and I
certainly won't use this "feature" again!

Miles

WaltS

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Jun 27, 2013, 8:01:23 AM6/27/13
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Did you try accessing the passwords before reinstalling all the extensions?

I have never seen the problem you describe. Occasionally a password I
have stored won't fill in the field on a site I am logging into, but a
reload of the page fixes that problem.

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Thunderbird Earlybird 24.0a2 with Lightning 2.6a2

Miles

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Jun 27, 2013, 11:45:02 AM6/27/13
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* WaltS wrote, On 27-Jun-13 19:01:
Have tried it in safe mode without a single addon or theme activated.
And I'm talking about the entire PW window won't open, not one
individual site password.

Chris Ilias

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Jun 28, 2013, 7:11:11 PM6/28/13
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On 2013-06-23 6:32 PM, Miles wrote:
> * Chris Ilias wrote, On 21-Jun-13 04:49:
>
>> Given the amount/type of problems you post, my recommendation is to use
>> the reset feature. :)
>
> OK, did the reset which has become a mini-disaster:
> 1) It did not correct the password button problem.

Then re-install Firefox.
1. Use the Windows Control Panel to uninstall Firefox.
2. Reboot your computer.
3. Delete the Firefox directory in the Windows Program Folders folder.
4. Install Firefox.

> 2) FF is no longer on D Drive as was set up years ago and I don't
> recall how to move it, if it could be found on C that is. How is this
> restored?

I don't see how resetting Firefox would change where Firefox is
installed, unless you're talking about your profile being on the D
drive, not Firefox itself. Using the re-install method above should fix
that.

> 3) Profile Mgr won't open, it merely opens FF.

That means Firefox is running. If you don't see any Firefox windows
open, open the task manager and stop firefox.exe.

> 4) Can't find an .slt file or profiles.ini. primarily looking in
> desktop/user/roaming/mozilla, firefox/profiles. There are several
> profiles listed there, but none have an .ini.

Go to Help-->Troubleshooting Information, then click on [Open Containing
Folder]. That will open Windows Explorer in your Firefox profile.

> 5) Can't copy extensions from the desktop backup to FF as Gilliver set
> out. So don't know the names of these since they're codified in FF, in
> order to redownload and set up -- which would be far too time consuming.

Do not copy the extensions. That defeats the purpose of resetting your
profile. In some cases you'll find that you don't use/need an extension
anymore. Install them as needed.

Miles

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Jul 4, 2013, 8:02:52 PM7/4/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 29-Jun-13 06:11:
Thanks, Chris, now all I need to do when time is available is to find
the old Mozilla instructions on how to move the profile. Once that is
done the upgrade to version 22 will be complete (except it still
doesn't have passwords which I can live without).
Miles

Chris Ilias

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Jul 5, 2013, 8:44:35 PM7/5/13
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On 2013-07-04 8:02 PM, Miles wrote:
> Thanks, Chris, now all I need to do when time is available is to find
> the old Mozilla instructions on how to move the profile. Once that is
> done the upgrade to version 22 will be complete (except it still doesn't
> have passwords which I can live without).

This article should help
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Recovering%20important%20data%20from%20an%20old%20profile>.

Miles

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Jul 14, 2013, 2:58:02 AM7/14/13
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* Chris Ilias wrote, On 06-Jul-13 07:44:
> On 2013-07-04 8:02 PM, Miles wrote:
>> Thanks, Chris, now all I need to do when time is available is to find
>> the old Mozilla instructions on how to move the profile. Once that is
>> done the upgrade to version 22 will be complete (except it still doesn't
>> have passwords which I can live without).
>
> This article should help
> <http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Recovering%20important%20data%20from%20an%20old%20profile>.
>

Thanks, Chris, but I'm not about to make a new profile simply to
recover the ability to access passwords which are unnecessary. Why
doesn't Mozilla simply do away with the necessity of hitting a 2nd
button to access passwords?
Miles
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