Using the Chinese input method editor
Loren Pechtel
My wife is using an English copy of Windows XP Pro but she is
attempting e-mail in Chinese. Sometimes the system is willing to
switch languages and sometimes it's not. Also, frequently it stops
converting.
There does seem to be some relationship to what Firefox is doing--it's
as if in certain situations it's refusing the switch but I haven't
isolated what's going on.
Can anyone shed some light on this and ideally how to avoid the
problem??
(Note: She's a total novice with computers and I don't read a word of
Chinese.)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> I'm trying to figure out exactly what is going on.
> My wife is using an English copy of Windows XP Pro but she is
> attempting e-mail in Chinese. Sometimes the system is willing to
> switch languages and sometimes it's not. Also, frequently it stops
> converting.
>
> There does seem to be some relationship to what Firefox is
> doing--it's as if in certain situations it's refusing the switch but
> I haven't isolated what's going on.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on this and ideally how to avoid the
> problem??
Firefox is a browser.
Are you talking about a webmail (web-page-based email reader/composer)?
Which one? If so, does the Chinese work with another browser?
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-bts
-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
Loren Pechtel
Yeah, she's using it to access Gmail.
It feels like there is some situations in which Firefox is disallowing
language changes.
The problem is not whether the Chinese works, the problem is with
being allowed to change languages. Both English and Chinese are
installed, at times she needs to shift between them.
Ralph Fox
<NradnQWshY7mSxjW...@mozilla.org>
Loren Pechtel <lorenp...@hotmail.invalid.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out exactly what is going on.
>
> My wife is using an English copy of Windows XP Pro but she is
> attempting e-mail in Chinese. Sometimes the system is willing to
> switch languages and sometimes it's not. Also, frequently it stops
> converting.
I use the language bar to switch. This works for me.
The MSPY Chinese IME turns conversion off or on whenever the SHIFT key
is pressed. I suspect that this may be what is happening. The
floating language bar displays 中 when conversion is turned on, and 英
when conversion is turned off.
Screenshots from XP Pro:
• Language bar, conversion ON http://i46.tinypic.com/x5cdpz.png
• Language bar, conversion OFF http://i46.tinypic.com/rlmff9.png
• MSPY IME help file http://i47.tinypic.com/34znc79.png
> There does seem to be some relationship to what Firefox is doing--it's
> as if in certain situations it's refusing the switch but I haven't
> isolated what's going on.
If your wife is using the keyboard to switch languages, it might
be that the focus needs to be in an editable area of the window.
I turn keyboard switching off and use the language bar to switch
languages.
> Can anyone shed some light on this and ideally how to avoid the
> problem??
>
> (Note: She's a total novice with computers and I don't read a word of
> Chinese.)
--
Cheers
Ralph
Loren Pechtel
wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:46:33 -0800, in message
><NradnQWshY7mSxjW...@mozilla.org>
>Loren Pechtel <lorenp...@hotmail.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to figure out exactly what is going on.
>>
>> My wife is using an English copy of Windows XP Pro but she is
>> attempting e-mail in Chinese. Sometimes the system is willing to
>> switch languages and sometimes it's not. Also, frequently it stops
>> converting.
>
>I use the language bar to switch. This works for me.
I'm a big fan of the keyboard but maybe I should turn it off for her.
>The MSPY Chinese IME turns conversion off or on whenever the SHIFT key
>is pressed. I suspect that this may be what is happening. The
>floating language bar displays ? when conversion is turned on, and ?
>when conversion is turned off.
>
>Screenshots from XP Pro:
> � Language bar, conversion ON http://i46.tinypic.com/x5cdpz.png
> � Language bar, conversion OFF http://i46.tinypic.com/rlmff9.png
> � MSPY IME help file http://i47.tinypic.com/34znc79.png
Where did you find that help file? I've been navigating basically
blind with it because I couldn't find any documentation.
>> There does seem to be some relationship to what Firefox is doing--it's
>> as if in certain situations it's refusing the switch but I haven't
>> isolated what's going on.
>
>If your wife is using the keyboard to switch languages, it might
>be that the focus needs to be in an editable area of the window.
Testing......
Yup--it's not specific to Firefox, either. I just reproduced the
problem on the desktop vs a code window of Visual Studio. Strange
behavior.
Thanks. I know how to make it behave for her now.
Ralph Fox
Loren Pechtel <lorenp...@hotmail.invalid.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:01:34 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
> wrote:
---snip---
> >The MSPY Chinese IME turns conversion off or on whenever the SHIFT key
> >is pressed. I suspect that this may be what is happening. The
> >floating language bar displays 锟斤拷 when conversion is turned on, and 英
> >when conversion is turned off.
> >
> >Screenshots from XP Pro:
> > 锟斤拷 Language bar, conversion ON http://i46.tinypic.com/x5cdpz.png
> > 锟斤拷 Language bar, conversion OFF http://i46.tinypic.com/rlmff9.png
> > 锟斤拷 MSPY IME help file http://i47.tinypic.com/34znc79.png
>
> Where did you find that help file? I've been navigating basically
> blind with it because I couldn't find any documentation.
Set the language to Chinese, and then click on the question mark icon
in the floating language bar. This will bring down a menu with two
entries...
锟斤拷 Microsoft Pinyin IME Help
锟斤拷 Language Bar Help
Pick the menu option "Microsoft Pinyin IME Help".
Screenshot: http://i46.tinypic.com/24b0qgx.png
If the language is not set to Chinese, you will not see the menu
option "Microsoft Pinyin IME Help".
The help file can also be found at
C:\WINDOWS\system32\IME\pintlgnt\PINTLGNE.CHM
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Regards
Ralph
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Loren Pechtel
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:02:50 -0800, in message <x-adnXAeJL8lFhXW...@mozilla.org>
>Loren Pechtel <lorenp...@hotmail.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:01:34 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
>> wrote:
>---snip---
>> >The MSPY Chinese IME turns conversion off or on whenever the SHIFT key
>> >is pressed. I suspect that this may be what is happening. The
>> >floating language bar displays ?? when conversion is turned on, and ??
>> >when conversion is turned off.
>> >
>> >Screenshots from XP Pro:
>> > ?? Language bar, conversion ON http://i46.tinypic.com/x5cdpz.png
>> > ?? Language bar, conversion OFF http://i46.tinypic.com/rlmff9.png
>> > ?? MSPY IME help file http://i47.tinypic.com/34znc79.png
>>
>> Where did you find that help file? I've been navigating basically
>> blind with it because I couldn't find any documentation.
>
>Set the language to Chinese, and then click on the question mark icon
>in the floating language bar. This will bring down a menu with two
>entries...
> ?? Microsoft Pinyin IME Help
> ?? Language Bar Help
>Pick the menu option "Microsoft Pinyin IME Help".
>Screenshot: http://i46.tinypic.com/24b0qgx.png
>
>If the language is not set to Chinese, you will not see the menu
>option "Microsoft Pinyin IME Help".
>
>The help file can also be found at
>C:\WINDOWS\system32\IME\pintlgnt\PINTLGNE.CHM
Thanks for the help. She's much happier with it now.
Ralph Fox
Loren Pechtel <lorenp...@hotmail.invalid.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the help. She's much happier with it now.
You're welcome.
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Regards
Ralph