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Lou

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Sep 30, 2009, 11:04:32 AM9/30/09
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Some sites are now spawning a pop under ad which seems to cause a new
copy of FF to open. Netflix ads are one user I remember.
Is there any way to stop this BS?
I looked under Tools and do not see how.

TIA

Lou

propman

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Sep 30, 2009, 12:01:06 PM9/30/09
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Add-ons:

AdBlock Plus
Noscript

.... and/or use a specialized "hosts" file.

A quick Google will provide further details but here's some from
forums.mozillazine.org to get ya started:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=379681&start=15


PS....thanks for posting your enquiry as I have been meaning to update
my hosts file for a while now but keep forgetting to do so. Now I have
no excuse! ;-)


Jay Garcia

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Sep 30, 2009, 2:49:56 PM9/30/09
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On 30.09.2009 10:04, Lou wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Tools => Options => Content => Block popup windows .. also works with
popunders.

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Ron Hunter

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Sep 30, 2009, 5:38:50 PM9/30/09
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Sure. Get a good firewall program that can block these popunders, and
then tell Netflix that until they get rid of them, you will get rid of THEM.

Keith Nuttle

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Sep 30, 2009, 8:43:50 PM9/30/09
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How do you get rid of the rollover popups. The type if your cursor goes
over some text a popup comes up with information.

They are prevalent on some boards.rootsweb.com and other similar websites

Rich

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Sep 30, 2009, 9:32:00 PM9/30/09
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"Keith Nuttle" <keith_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:I7udnUyn27PUZl7X...@mozilla.org...

You can't I asked the same question and was told to navigate skillfully!

I hate those too, and some sites you have to close the little boxes after
they popup and those sites I just close.

Good luck, Rich


Lou

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Sep 30, 2009, 9:51:24 PM9/30/09
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Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 30.09.2009 10:04, Lou wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> Some sites are now spawning a pop under ad which seems to cause a new
>> copy of FF to open. Netflix ads are one user I remember.
>> Is there any way to stop this BS?
>> I looked under Tools and do not see how.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Lou
>
> Tools => Options => Content => Block popup windows .. also works with
> popunders.
>
Have had that checked for ages. Has no effect on theses guys.
Look at the exceptions list and all are marked block.
BUT netflix is not in there. How to add as block?


Lou

propman

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Oct 1, 2009, 12:39:34 AM10/1/09
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FWIW, I've browsed around both the sites you have mentioned
(boards.rootsweb.com and netflix) and so far see none of the activity
you rascals are discussing. If anyone has a specific URL on either of
those sites where such activity is occuring, I would be interested in
doing a revisit for testing purposes. Right now though, it would appear
my add-ons and hosts file are working A-OKay. :-)

Jay Garcia

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Oct 1, 2009, 9:48:29 AM10/1/09
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--- Original Message ---

I don't have a popup blocker other than the default in FF and the Netflx
or any other popunder shows up, especially the annoying ones on cnn.com

Jay Garcia

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Oct 1, 2009, 9:49:24 AM10/1/09
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--- Original Message ---

Perhaps it's a matter of denying any/all cookies associated with those ads.

Lou

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Oct 3, 2009, 1:24:57 AM10/3/09
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Jay Garcia wrote:

> On 02.10.2009 08:12, Lou wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>> On 30.09.2009 20:51, Lou wrote:
>>>
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>
>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>> On 30.09.2009 10:04, Lou wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some sites are now spawning a pop under ad which seems to cause a
>>>>>> new copy of FF to open. Netflix ads are one user I remember.
>>>>>> Is there any way to stop this BS?
>>>>>> I looked under Tools and do not see how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>
>>>>> Tools => Options => Content => Block popup windows .. also works
>>>>> with popunders.
>>>>>
>>>> Have had that checked for ages. Has no effect on theses guys.
>>>> Look at the exceptions list and all are marked block.
>>>> BUT netflix is not in there. How to add as block?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>> I don't have a popup blocker other than the default in FF and the
>>> Netflx or any other popunder shows up, especially the annoying ones
>>> on cnn.com
>>>
>>>
>> Exactly SIGH
>
> Senility prevails .. I meant to write NONE show up ... drat!
>
>
So what add-ons and extensions do you have?

Jay Garcia

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Oct 3, 2009, 7:32:10 AM10/3/09
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--- Original Message ---

None that have anything to do with popups.

David McRitchie

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Oct 3, 2009, 8:02:43 AM10/3/09
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"Jay Garcia" ...

> On 03.10.2009 00:24, Lou wrote:
>> So what add-ons and extensions do you have?
>
> None that have anything to do with popups.

You'd be surprised at what extensions might be involved with pop-ups.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Problematic_extensions

Jay Garcia

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Oct 3, 2009, 8:14:08 AM10/3/09
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On 03.10.2009 07:02, David McRitchie wrote:

--- Original Message ---

Original statement stands ... :-)

Lou

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Oct 3, 2009, 7:17:05 PM10/3/09
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Jay Garcia wrote:
> On 03.10.2009 07:02, David McRitchie wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>> "Jay Garcia" ...
>>> On 03.10.2009 00:24, Lou wrote:
>>>> So what add-ons and extensions do you have?
>>>
>>> None that have anything to do with popups.
>>
>> You'd be surprised at what extensions might be involved with pop-ups.
>> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Problematic_extensions
>
> Original statement stands ... :-)
>
Therefore I can only assume there is some kind of bug in FF that lets
this stuff thru.

Lou

David McRitchie

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Oct 3, 2009, 9:14:36 PM10/3/09
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"Lou"
> Therefore I can only assume there is some kind of bug in FF that lets
> this stuff thru.

Browsers have to allow some pop-ups; otherwise, you'd receive no messages
of a problem.
You can try Safe Mode and that would eliminate all extensions.

I would suggest that you supply an specific url where one does not have to sign-in
in order to get the best answers so anyone can try exactly what you do and
experience the same pop-unders. I didn't see anyone else in the thread having a
problem simply going to the netflix site. Please specify the specific url and what
one clicks on. I have several things that can stop bad or annoying things
1) hosts file
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
2) floppy moose additions
http://www.floppymoose.com/userContent.css
==== above are always on =========
3) pop-up blocking in options which you say you have on
tools, options/preferences, content
[x] Block pop-up windows -- often turned off
4) styles filterset p -- often not on
stylish extension -- https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/2108
http://userstyles.org/styles/299
5) Adblock Plus -- often not on

Check out these references:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Popups_not_blocked
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Pop-up+blocker

The following is from -- http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/tabs.htm

Test your popup blocker at PopupTest
[-- http://www.popuptest.com/ --].
Use Tools, Options, Content
[-- http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/options#content --],
[x] Block pop-up windows. (and exceptions list for allowed sites,
unfortunately I do have a lot of exceptions including hotmail, geocities, yahoo).
I only see pop-down during the test. Also see
Mozzila KB article Popups not blocked - MozillaZine Knowledge Base
[-- http://kb.mozillazine.org/Popups_not_blocked --].
Also Firefox popup blocker does not block Tooltips
[-- http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_Issues_:_Tooltips_Don%27t_Work --],
ALT text, and TITLE text, but make sure ALT is not used as a title in Firefox

Christoph Schmees

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Oct 4, 2009, 3:46:33 AM10/4/09
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David McRitchie schrieb:
> ... I have several things that can stop bad or annoying

thanks for that huge bunch of tips! One more: No one has to deal with the
hosts file manually. Thre's a fin piece of SW which does that for you:
"Spybot - Search & Destroy" http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
When you klick "immunize" it does alter the hosts file an lot more. Strong
recommendation!

cu, Christoph

Lou

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Oct 4, 2009, 7:07:55 AM10/4/09
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Thanks to both you and David.

Lou

Lou

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Oct 4, 2009, 7:11:46 AM10/4/09
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David, I NEVER go to netflix directly! Their damn ads are attached
under something else! I will try to remember to save the URL next time
it happens.

Lou

Jim Dell

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Oct 4, 2009, 9:17:24 AM10/4/09
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Here's a URL where Netflix always pops up for me
http://www.snopes.com/

When you click in the search box it and another window pop up.

Jim

Ron Hunter

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Oct 4, 2009, 9:26:21 AM10/4/09
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No popups/popunders, etc. here.

Gord McFee

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Oct 4, 2009, 10:28:19 AM10/4/09
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Nor here. I'm using Adblock Plus.

--
Best regards
Gord McFee

propman

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Oct 4, 2009, 11:57:18 AM10/4/09
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Jim Dell wrote:
> Lou wrote:
>> David McRitchie wrote:

>>> I would suggest that you supply an specific url where one does not
>>> have to sign-in

<quotes trimmed>

>> David, I NEVER go to netflix directly! Their damn ads are attached
>> under something else! I will try to remember to save the URL next
>> time it happens.
>>
>> Lou
> Here's a URL where Netflix always pops up for me
> http://www.snopes.com/
>
> When you click in the search box it and another window pop up.
>
> Jim

FWIW......

Just out of curiosity, I logged onto the site (with FF 3.5.3, AdBlock
Plus and modified hosts file) and didn't experience any popups....so I
disable AdBlock Plus and then logged onto the site again....again no
popups. Then I logged on using Firefox Safe Mode; no popups appeared.
Then I logged on with IE8 which resulted in the popups appearing.

So it would appear from this, AFAICT, Firefox handles the popups on that
particular site by itself.

David Pyles

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Oct 4, 2009, 12:50:13 PM10/4/09
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Did you click in the search field? The pop-ups (pop-unders) don't come
up until you do.
Dave Pyles

David McRitchie

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Oct 4, 2009, 1:03:25 PM10/4/09
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"Jim Dell" ...

> Here's a URL where Netflix always pops up for me
> http://www.snopes.com/
>
> When you click in the search box it and another window pop up.

Not for me, and will point out immediately that I have never signed up at
snopes nor at the search engine used atomz

Do you have any third party search toolbars installed.

Try right-clicking on the search box and choose create a keyword for this search
do you get the following in the location: entry of the dialog
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=%s&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

If you enter this into the location bar, do you get the pop-up
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/deceased.asp

Do you get pop-up for (you will have to copy and paste entire link)
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=terminated+contractor&getit=Go&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

This is the closest that I find for settings, it is the advanced search
http://www.snopes.com/info/search/search.asp

You could try deleting the cookies for snopes.com but that would likely just get
you a different set of ads.

Did you install a hosts file -- http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

A warning on hosts file they can get very big and slow system down if you
have software adding additional items. If you have windows 2000 the above
may even be too big if you are on dial-up. The hosts file has to be complete
as to such things as xxx.double-click.net, www.double-click.net , double-click
so you can see that it can only handle the really bad or most common stuff,
especially when you get into including country codes.

That's why I also include the floppymoose.com which applies only to the
Firefox (SeaMonkey, etc) profile that it is installed in, but it uses wild cards and
predates The good part is that the floppymoose additions apply
even in SafeMode or regardless of extensions.
The bad part is that it really has to be careful what it filters as wildcards, so can't
be complete and be used by everyone, and as just mentioned any changes would
require changing while Firefox is down then restarting Firefox.

floppymoose makes interesting reading and predates Adblock and Adblock Plus, which also use wildcards but the later are
modified while using. Tried other profiles and betas that do not
have floppymoose additions and still no pop-ups. Did I mention that I am using Adblock Plus
but that it is disabled at the status bar icon and still no pop-ups from snopes.com

There are some configuration variables that would apply, but as the most
obvious one that can be turned on/off in options, I don't even have the
popup blocker turned on. (tools, options/preferences, content, ...)

bring up about:config at the location bar
sort on "Status" so that "user set" is at top then see if you have anything
in the user set settings beginning with
browser.
dom.
network.

»Q«

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Oct 4, 2009, 1:29:45 PM10/4/09
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In <news:PIednXD4uI_BPVXX...@mozilla.org>,
Jim Dell <del...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here's a URL where Netflix always pops up for me
> http://www.snopes.com/
>
> When you click in the search box it and another window pop up.

The built-in Fx popup blocker won't block windows you open by clicking,
so if a site can get you to click, it can open a popup. Using the
search box for that seems like a particularly slimy way to do it.

For Snopes, use Adblock Plus to block the javascript from
casalemedia.com. this filter should work:

||casalemedia.com^$third-party

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David McRitchie

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Oct 4, 2009, 2:11:20 PM10/4/09
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"»Q«" <box...@gmx.net> wrote in message news:20091004122...@bellgrove.remarqs.net...

> In <news:PIednXD4uI_BPVXX...@mozilla.org>,
> Jim Dell <del...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a URL where Netflix always pops up for me
>> http://www.snopes.com/
>>
>> When you click in the search box it and another window pop up.
>
> The built-in Fx popup blocker won't block windows you open by clicking,
> so if a site can get you to click, it can open a popup. Using the
> search box for that seems like a particularly slimy way to do it.
>
> For Snopes, use Adblock Plus to block the javascript from
> casalemedia.com. this filter should work:
>
> ||casalemedia.com^$third-party

That makes sense there are 13 entries relating to casalemedia in
the hosts file that many people use so it is blocked there for any browser
and any profile, and the hosts file would also block you from going directly
to the casalemedia.com site. Just to give you an idea of how much
had to be added to the hosts file for casalemedia alone. The # begin a comment on
same line as to what it is or where the blocker was suggested/used

# [Casale Media][Comspec Communications]
127.0.0.1 casalemedia.com #[McAfee.Cookie-Casalemedia]
127.0.0.1 as.casalemedia.com #[Ewido.TrackingCookie.Casalemedia]
127.0.0.1 b.casalemedia.com #[a1083.g.akamai.net][McAfee.Adware-SrchExplorer]
127.0.0.1 c.casalemedia.com #[Ad-Aware.Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 i.casalemedia.com #[Tenebril.Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 img.casalemedia.com #[SunBelt.casalemedia.com]
127.0.0.1 js.casalemedia.com #[a883.g.akamai.net]
127.0.0.1 lb01.casalemedia.com #[SpySweeper.Spy.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 r.casalemedia.com #[Symantec.SpywareStormer]
127.0.0.1 www.casalemedia.com
127.0.0.1 www.oofun.com
127.0.0.1 00fun.com #[Tenebril.Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 www.00fun.com

propman

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Oct 5, 2009, 1:27:32 AM10/5/09
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Yep. :-)

Jim Dell

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Oct 5, 2009, 8:23:11 AM10/5/09
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I have only two add ons Java Quick Starter and Microsoft Net framework
Assistant

The pop only occurs only once a day or after I reboot. I shut down my
PC every night.

Firefox says it blocked 2 pop ups but there are two other Firefox
windows that were created one by NetFlix.

Jim

David McRitchie

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Oct 5, 2009, 10:32:12 AM10/5/09
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"Jim Dell" > I have only two add ons Java Quick Starter and Microsoft Net framework
> Assistant
>
> The pop only occurs only once a day or after I reboot. I shut down my
> PC every night.
>
> Firefox says it blocked 2 pop ups but there are two other Firefox
> windows that were created one by NetFlix.

Did you install a hosts file -- http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
because that appears to be what is blocking them for others.

Lou

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Oct 5, 2009, 10:35:21 AM10/5/09
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+1

Lou

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Oct 5, 2009, 10:41:28 AM10/5/09
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Entered a few letters for a search. Never clicked the GO button.
Got two pop-unders.
Killed both. Tried again. No pop-unders.
Left snopes. Came back. Tried again. No pop-unders the second time
around.

Lou

David Zeit

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Oct 7, 2009, 8:24:09 PM10/7/09
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Jay Garcia

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Oct 7, 2009, 9:28:44 PM10/7/09
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--- Original Message ---

I get a Netflix popunder but only using IE-Tab in IE display mode.

Lou

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Oct 9, 2009, 1:16:12 AM10/9/09
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The first time I even go into the search area of snopes.com I get a
pop-under or two which cause new instances of FF to open, but it only
happens the first time and I have not checked lately.

Lou

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