RSS feeds
Billll
if I hover over it I get "Subscribe to xxxxxxx", but once I click it
there is a brief flurry of activity and then ---- nothing.
Where does this information go? How does it get accessed? Where does
it get accessed?
I have learned how to use TB to access RSS feeds, but if the actual (and
exact) URL isn't known, then I can't give TB the info it needs to
accomplish the connection.
I would like to use FF to receive RSS feeds, but I just can't find out
where to go or how to access them.
Billll
Moz Champion (Dan)
Billll
OK. All good information, but not helping me. I can see "Step 1"
(finding the little orange square RSS feed indicator) as I said before.
Beyond that, nothing else happens. Nothing pops up or displays itself
in any manner. I see the Vista "don't bug the OS because I'm busy"
spinning circle, but after a second or two it stops and I'm staring at
the same, unchanged, web page.
My Bookmarks Toolbar (when I enable it) is completely blank - nothing on
it so all it actually does is push the web page down a quarter-inch and
leave a grey gap. The Bookmarks drop-down shows nothing added over what
I already have.
Tools -> Options -> Applications tab shows that for Web Feeds to use
Mozilla Thunderbird. I have checked every available tab/tool/dropdown
on TB and found nothing to indicate that FF has passed it anything.
I guess I must be missing something but I haven't a clue as to what.
Billll
SG
have you set up an RSS account in TB? [tools/account settings/add
account/RSS....]
then you can manage subscriptions from there, when you find a feed you
want to add, right click on it and 'copy link location' and 'add' that
to your subscriptions, then TB will download and you can read those feeds
HTH, HAND
Billll
Yes, I have set up an account for web feeds. I have one functioning in
there now. Right-clicking the orange dot does nothing at all. The URL
in the address bar is usually NOT the URL for the feed so I can't use
that. Some web pages don't have any indication (other than the orange
dot) that there is an RSS feed available so what's to right-click?
Billll
Moz Champion (Dan)
Not all web pages have RSS feeds. Here is one that does
there are three RSS feeds on the page (Announcements/mozillazine
news/developer news)
click on the orange dot and you should be taken to a new page where you
can subscribe to them. Does that occur?
Billll
Nope. When I hover, I see "Subscribe to this page" and when I click it
I see 4 entries in the 'tool tip' type box. Clicking any one of them
makes the Vista "busy" cursor, then the Firefox home page loses the
focus and I have to re-click back into the page. Nothing else happens
at all.
Billll
Moz Champion (Dan)
?? I gave you specific instructions
it isnt the Firefox home page
it is
then CLICK on one of the orange dots - what happens?
You shouldn't see FOUR feeds in the tooltip box, there is only ONE when
you hover over each
I dont even see ANY RSS feeds on the Firefox home page - what page are
you looking at, please provide url
Billll
And I gave precise results. The entire page is devoted to everything
Mozilla but the banner across the top says "Firefox & Thunderbird". I'd
call that a sort of home page. In any case, clicking the orange square
in the address bar produces 4 tooltip entries. Clicking any ONE of them
produces the previously noted activity and NOTHING else.
Moving down the page, clicking any one of the three other orange squares
also produces the same results as before. Nothing else happens.
Billll
Billll
I can, however, right-click the three squares and select "copy link
location" and then go to my TB RSS account page and "Add" an account
which allows me to paste the address into the field. This appears to be
the only way I can get a feed into TB.
If all I can see is the orange square on the address bar of the page I
want, then I have to search around, watching the status bar, until I see
the URL for the actual feed. Then I have to manually write it down with
a pen and enter it into the TB "Add" field to see if it works.
Billll
David Pyles
found this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/RSS:_Live_Bookmarks_overview_(Firefox)
Follow the instructions in the line below Firefox 3 in the Subscribing
to feeds using Live Bookmarks section.
Dave Pyles
Billll
I have done exactly that long ago. My Tools -> options -> applications
-> web feed shows "Use Mozilla Thunderbird".
Now, if all was right in the world, some inter-process communications
should shuffle the proper RSS feed URL from Firefox to Thunderbird when
I click the orange square. It isn't happening, but I suspect is SHOULD
be happening when the mouse pointer briefly goes "busy".
Billll
Moz Champion (Dan)
I asked for a url, you didnt give one. Do it yourself then, you will
receive no more assistance from me.
Billll
What more can I do than repeat that I HAVE GONE to the URL you provided
I gave results. What more do you wosh?
Billll
David Pyles
That page doesn't come up if you have set the "Web Feed" option in the
application tab of the options/preferences to "Use Mozilla Thunderbird,"
which I think gets set when you set Thunderbird as your default RSS
viewer. But... Thunderbird doesn't open either with the Use Thunderbird
setting. You have to set to to "Preview in Firefox" for that page to
come up.
Dave Pyles
David Pyles
I think Firefox is supposed to pass a call to Thunderbird, but it
doesn't seem to be doing that. I'm using Win2K, so I don't think its a
Vista problem either.
Dave Pyles
Moz Champion (Dan)
If he is asking for Thunderbird, then why is he in mozilla.support.firefox?
the OP says above
"I would like to use FF to receive RSS feeds, but I just can't
find out where to go or how to access them."
So I gave instructions for Firefox, not Thunderbird.
Moz Champion (Dan)
Please use common nomenclature
the mozilla.org page is NOT the Firefox home page and should not be
referred to as such
I gave instructions for Firefox, not Thunderbird, because you said you
wanted to do it in Firefox.
I don't see FOUR tooltip choice when I hover over a RSS feed on that
page, I see ONE for each of the three RSS feeds.
Sjouke Burry
I use the addon INFORSS 1.1.5 in Firefox, and I just drop the rss symbol
onto the bottom row, where the INFORSS interface is.
Then just click the feed button there and a bunch of tabs appears.
Billll
And rightly so. I thank you for that. I originally posted here in this
NG because my start point was my browser - Firefox. It was not
performing as I thought it should.
I now find that there are several ways to make what I want happen, so I
will try to apply what I have learned here to that end.
At the moment, I am using TB for feeds because the only way I knew to
make it happen was to use FF and copy/paste into TB's interface for my
feed. It works, but it is tedious to do it that way. Plus I have to
What would be more pleasing to me would be to use FF's built-in
capability to show my feeds as Favorites rather than use TB.
Billll
Billll
Well, at least I have confirmation that something should be happening,
but isn't. :<)
Billll
Billll
Gomen na sai Sensei. I have made a mistake.
Correct. Please see my other post for details on my progress.
Very true. But, hover over the orange square on the address bar and
click it once - 4 feeds appear in the tooltip.
Billll
Moz Champion (Dan)
Not here, I hover over the orange square and see ONE tooltip for each
square, which states the name of the feed.
Billll
ADDRESS BAR, Address Bar!!! Up at the top of the browser where the URL
sits - not on the actual page.
Billll
Moz Champion (Dan)
I still don't see where you are seeing FOUR entries
If I go to http://www.mozilla.org and hover over the first orange box
following the word Announcements
the address bar shows the address of the Page, http://www.mozilla.org
the tool tip shows "Annoucements in RSS"
the status bar (at the bottom) shows the feed url
http://www.mozilla.org/news.rdf
So where are you seeing FOUR tooltip entries?
If I hover over the second orange (following mozillazine News) box I see
address bar http://www.mozilla.org (the page of course)
tooltip "Mozillazine News in RSS"
status bar http://www.mozillazine.org/atom.xml
If I hover over the third orange box (Developer News)
address bar http://www.mozilla.org (the page still)
tooltip "Developer News in RSS"
status bar http://developer.mozilla.org/index.php/feed/
So what FOUR toolip entries are you seeing?
Billll
I do SO wish I could include a picture of this.
Up on the ADDRESS bar - the strip of open space where one types in a
URL, are the following (left to right):
The back/forward a page buttons
Reload current page circular arrow
A 'stop loading this page' red "X"
A little house (my home page)
then - the ADDRESS bar, which contains the following:
A red icon whose tooltip says "this web site does not supply identity
information"
the URL: http://www.mozilla.org/
a lot of whitespace followed by an orange square whose tooltip says
"Subscribe to this page..."
A white star whose tooltip says "Bookmark this page"
A drop-down arrow where you can recall previously viewed pages.
At the far right is a Google search area.
It is the orange square that is immediately to the right of the page URL
that I am talking about. This square will not appear if there are no
feeds on the given page. But if there ARE feeds, this button appears.
It is supposed to do something other than look pretty, but I don't think
it is connected to anything at all so when I click it, and select one of
the FOUR choices, nothing happens.
Billll
Leonidas Jones
Firefox does not recognize TB as a feed reader, n order to subscribe in
TB, you will have to do as you did, copy the feed address and paste it
into your TB account.
Lee
Billll
Thank you, Lee. Then the drop-down list in Tools -> Options ->
Applications -> web feed is just a sort of "I'm telling you to use
Thunderbird" rather than "I'll put an entry in Thunderbird for you"?
Billll
Leonidas Jones
No it never has, and the same problem exists on OSX as well. FF doesn't
recognize TB as a feed reader, the only way to manage it is to
copy/paste the feed url from FF to TB.
For what its worth, SeaMonkey 2.0a3 works very well in this regard, the
browser sets up the feed in Mail/News. Would that TB and FF were as
well integrated.
Lee
Leonidas Jones
Pretty much. I'm not saying its good, in fact its definately broken,
but, for the moment, that is what happens.
Lee
Carey
I can see the little icon on the address bar of FF (currently 3.0.8) and if I hover over it I get "Subscribe to xxxxxxx", but once I click it there is a brief flurry of activity and then ---- nothing.
Where does this information go? How does it get accessed? Where does it get accessed?
I have learned how to use TB to access RSS feeds, but if the actual (and exact) URL isn't known, then I can't give TB the info it needs to accomplish the connection.
I would like to use FF to receive RSS feeds, but I just can't find out where to go or how to access them.
Billll
Steve
Browse My "Old" Writing and ... New
Genealogy, News
& Information
My
Cycling Journals
Billll
> Browse My "Old" Writing <http://www.fear-itself.com> and ... New
> <http://careystevens.blogspot.com>
> Genealogy, News & Information <http://pages.suddenlink.net/fox38/index.htm>
> My Cycling Journals
> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/directory/?o=ZkMC&user=MacEasy&v=bE>
>
Thanks, Steve. Another method to check out. Appreciate it.
Billll
David Pyles
comes up with subscription options at the top, see this screenshot:
http://www.acousticmusic.com/rss-preview.jpg
As you can see from the screenshot, one of the options is "Mozilla
Thunderbird." When you choose that option, nothing happens. There
seems to be no communication with Thunderbird whether it is open or
closed and no RSS feed gets created there. The feed page that I used in
the screenshot is a feed page from my own web site and there is nothing
on my web site that would cause that dropdown list to be included in the
feed, so I can only assume that it was cerated by Firefox. If Firefox
won't communicate with Thunderbird, then why does it give the option.
Also, when you select the "Always use Mozilla Thunderbird" check box, it
changes the default in Firefox for "Web Feeds" to Thunderbird and
subsequently when the RSS icon in the address bar is clicked, nothing
happens at all.
It's all very confusing, but to answer Dan's question in another part of
this thread about why the OP was in a Firefox group when the question
was about Thunderbird, I think the answer is that the genesis of the
problem is with Firefox.
Dave Pyles
Chris Ilias
> I can, however, right-click the three squares and select "copy link
> location" and then go to my TB RSS account page and "Add" an account
> which allows me to paste the address into the field. This appears to be
> the only way I can get a feed into TB.
>
> If all I can see is the orange square on the address bar of the page I
> want, then I have to search around, watching the status bar, until I see
> the URL for the actual feed. Then I have to manually write it down with
> a pen and enter it into the TB "Add" field to see if it works.
See if this still works:
<http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/12/making-firefox-use-thunderbird-for-web-feeds/>.
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Chris Ilias
> Billll wrote:
>
>> sits - not on the actual page.
>
>
If a page offers more than one feed, then clicking on the web feed icon
in the Location bar will turn up a list off feeds to choose. This is
explained in <http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Live+Bookmarks>.
»Q«
Billll <what...@phooey.kom> wrote:
> What would be more pleasing to me would be to use FF's built-in
> capability to show my feeds as Favorites rather than use TB.
I'm sorry this thread has been so frustrating for you -- FWIW, IMO
you've been very clear since the start about the behavior you were
seeing and what was wrong with it.
I don't have a clue how to solve the apparent problem with the way
Firefox hands off to Thunderbird (or rather, the way it doesn't).
But if you just want to use Firefox' live bookmarks feature to handle
the feeds as bookmarks, enter "about:config" in the location bar, then
in the filter box, enter "browser.feeds.handler". You should then see
these two prefs:
browser.feeds.handler.default
browser.feeds.handler
Right-click each one and reset it. Next time you go to a page with a
feed and choose one, you should be prompted for how to handle it, and
you can choose "bookmarks".
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SG
>
> I still don't see where you are seeing FOUR entries
>
> If I go to http://www.mozilla.org and hover over the first orange box
> following the word Announcements
>
> the address bar shows the address of the Page, http://www.mozilla.org
>
> the tool tip shows "Annoucements in RSS"
>
> the status bar (at the bottom) shows the feed url
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/news.rdf
>
>
>
> So where are you seeing FOUR tooltip entries?
>
>
>
> If I hover over the second orange (following mozillazine News) box I see
>
> address bar http://www.mozilla.org (the page of course)
> tooltip "Mozillazine News in RSS"
> status bar http://www.mozillazine.org/atom.xml
>
>
> If I hover over the third orange box (Developer News)
>
> address bar http://www.mozilla.org (the page still)
> tooltip "Developer News in RSS"
> status bar http://developer.mozilla.org/index.php/feed/
>
>
> So what FOUR toolip entries are you seeing?
here's a pic of what he's talking about, though hover doesn't work for
me, I have to click it
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22063700@N04/3424930293/sizes/o/
Leonidas Jones
> On 4/8/09 5:16 PM, Billll wrote:
>> I can, however, right-click the three squares and select "copy link
>> location" and then go to my TB RSS account page and "Add" an account
>> which allows me to paste the address into the field. This appears to be
>> the only way I can get a feed into TB.
>>
>> If all I can see is the orange square on the address bar of the page I
>> want, then I have to search around, watching the status bar, until I see
>> the URL for the actual feed. Then I have to manually write it down with
>> a pen and enter it into the TB "Add" field to see if it works.
>
> See if this still works:
> <http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/12/making-firefox-use-thunderbird-for-web-feeds/>.
>
>
Hi Chris,
The only problem with this workaround is that security updates to FF
come so quickly. That's a good thing, of course, but every time a new
security update comes in, the workaround needs to be redone.
It seems more then a little odd that FF does not recognize TB as a feed
reader out of the box.
Lee
Moz Champion (Dan)
On my machine the box in the address bar is blue, not orange, and simply
says "Subscribe to this page..." it is the 'Live Bookmark' icon
I do get a dropdown of four from it, but clicking on any of them works
and directs me to the page just like clicking on the individual 'orange'
links - there are four of em tho, not three
Moz Champion (Dan)
Yep, I sse that, but on my machine that icon is Blue, not orange
Billll
Thanks for the link Chris. I'll definitely check that one out. In view
of Lee's comment though, I will also check again after the next update
to FF to see if it is still in place.
Billll
Billll
Thank you SG, I knew I wasn't seeing things. :)
Billll
Billll
Aha! post is printed, and standing by for use.
Billll
Billll
This method is working perfectly. I guess what I needed was to reset
those two fields (and also clear the third one that said
"browser.feeds.handlers.application" which pointed to Thunderbird).
All is well now and I can direct any feed to the Bookmarks Toolbar which
keeps feeds separate from my other favorites.
Thanks again
Billll
»Q«
Billll <what...@phooey.kom> wrote:
> --->
> > --->
> >> But if you just want to use Firefox' live bookmarks feature to
> >> handle the feeds as bookmarks, enter "about:config" in the
> >> location bar, then in the filter box, enter
> >> "browser.feeds.handler". You should then see these two prefs:
> >>
> >> browser.feeds.handler.default
> >> browser.feeds.handler
> >>
> >> Right-click each one and reset it. Next time you go to a page
> >> with a feed and choose one, you should be prompted for how to
> >> handle it, and you can choose "bookmarks".
> >
> > Aha! post is printed, and standing by for use.
>
> This method is working perfectly. I guess what I needed was to reset
> those two fields (and also clear the third one that said
> "browser.feeds.handlers.application" which pointed to Thunderbird).
>
> All is well now and I can direct any feed to the Bookmarks Toolbar
> which keeps feeds separate from my other favorites.
Thanks for posting back with that third pref -- I guess I didn't have
it because I never set an external application to use.
I'm glad you've finally got it working the way you want. :)
Moz Champion (Dan)
Well, the drop down list is NOT a tool-tip by the way, its a menu.
Perhaps if you had used proper nomenclature it would have been easier.
Besides, I gave specific instruction on WHAT 'organge boxes' I meant,
describing their location and all, and you were looking at what (on my
machine) shows up as a blue box.
»Q«
"Moz Champion (Dan)" <moz.ch...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> you were looking at what (on my machine) shows up as a blue box.
Probably best to switch to the default theme when dealing with
questions about stuff that shows in the address bar, especially if
it doesn't match what you see in yours.
Moz Champion (Dan)
> In <news:xLadnfrYv6eRCEPU...@mozilla.org>,
> "Moz Champion (Dan)" <moz.ch...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> you were looking at what (on my machine) shows up as a blue box.
>
> Probably best to switch to the default theme when dealing with
> questions about stuff that shows in the address bar, especially if
> it doesn't match what you see in yours.
>
Regardless of what theme I use, the 'Live Bookmark' box in the address
bar is blue not orange
I have switched back and forth between the three themes I have and the
'live bookmark' box is blue, not orange
this is on
http://www.mozilla/org
The RSS feed blocks are orange, and there are three of them on the page
Clicking on the 'Live Bookmark' BLUE icon gives you a drop down menu
(not a tooltip) with 4 entries
However, I was very specific when I asked the OP about what he got when
he clicked on the ORANGE boxes - and he was clicking on the BLUE one
I even gave specific directions for what I got when I hovered over each
ORANGE box, and asked him what he got when he did the same.
Perhaps it (the blue box) is an artifact of something, or a change I
made (don't recall any tho) or perhaps it is a OS related item. The
'Live Bookmark' 'icon' is the same as the RSS 'icon' except that it is
BLUE not Orange
hovering over an individual ORANGE box (on the page itself) gives you
the url for the feed in the status bar, hovering over the BLUE box in
the address bar doesnt - all you get is a tooltip 'Subscribe to this
page...'
You have to click on the Live Bookmark (Blue) box to get a four item
dropdown menu
Clicking on the individual RSS feeds (orange) boxes takes you to another
page.
Billll
Well, I didn't actually SAY it was a tool tip - I said that it LOOKED
like a tool tip - and YOU repeated it back to me. Stop being so stuffy
and pedantic.
And I answered you correctly when you described WHAT orange boxes you
meant. I also identified them as being on the body of the web page.
You could have easily said "my box is boue instead of orange" instead of
being so obtuse.
You definitely need to lighten up, or try decaf. :)
Billll
Billll
I also correctly identified what you were calling a BLUE box as being
ORANGE on my machine. A kind soul also included a picture of what I was
seeing - orange, not blue.
When I first mentioned the ORANGE box on the address bar, I said that if
I hover I get a tooltip and when I click the box I got FOUR entries. I
know the difference between a tooltip and a menu.
As I said before: lighten up.
Billll
Leonidas Jones
Somethings wrong with that link, but at www.mozilla.org in SeaMonkey,
the rss icon is orange, but in Firefox 3, with the default theme, its
blue. This is on Mac OSX.
Seems to be OS related. The default theme on Ubuntu has an orange icon.
The default theme on Win XP has an orange icon also. While the blue
looks better in the default Mac theme, it seems a strange choice, since
the cross platform aspect of FF is one of its selling points.
Anyhow, the icon color question is platform related.
Lee
Leonidas Jones
Weird. I click on Dan's link, http://www.mozilla.org, and I get a 404
error from mozilla.com. I click on my own www.mozilla.org link, and it
comes right up. I wonder what's up with that?
Lee
Moz Champion (Dan)
typo
I typed http://www.mozilla/org not http://www.mozilla.org
I didn't notice it until you said it wasn't working above
»Q«
Leonidas Jones <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Somethings wrong with that link, but at www.mozilla.org in SeaMonkey,
> the rss icon is orange, but in Firefox 3, with the default theme, its
> blue. This is on Mac OSX.
>
> Seems to be OS related. The default theme on Ubuntu has an orange
> icon. The default theme on Win XP has an orange icon also. While the
> blue looks better in the default Mac theme, it seems a strange
> choice, since the cross platform aspect of FF is one of its selling
> points.
>
> Anyhow, the icon color question is platform related.
I did some googling but didn't save the links. There was some
controversy about using blue instead of orange on OS X, but apparently
the Mozilla folks decided to use blue because the Safari folks had
chosen blue and they didn't want people switching from Safari to be
confused.
Opera used to use blue as well, but they've adopted the more standard
orange.
»Q«
Leonidas Jones <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:
> >> http://www.mozilla/org
^
> Weird. I click on Dan's link, http://www.mozilla.org, and I get a
> 404 error from mozilla.com. I click on my own www.mozilla.org link,
> and it comes right up. I wonder what's up with that?
There was a typo in the URL, a '/' where a '.' should be.
I get a DNS error because there's no .mozilla top-level domain, but I
guess you're taken to mozilla.com because Firefox has tried to fix the
link for you.
Leonidas Jones
I see. I guess the eye sees what it expects to see, but the computer
sees what's there.
Lee
Leonidas Jones
For what its worth Camino uses an orange icon.
For those who don't know, that's the Mac specific version of the Gecko
browser.
So much for the Mac thing. :)
I see, but its a mistake for Safari, and its a mistake for Firefox. RSS
icons all over the web are orange. Since its the same icon, regardless
of color, I can't credit that there would be a whole lot of confusion.
Lee
Clunker
Leonidas Jones
> On 11.04.2009 04:44, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Moz Champion
> (Dan) to generate the following:? :
>
> GO THERE
> Check the site
> COPY the URL
> PASTE the /CORRECT/ URL
>
> reg
Would you really bother with as simple a URL as www.mozilla.org? I
wouldn't. Typos happen.
Lee