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lurker

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Jan 14, 2007, 7:22:37 PM1/14/07
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This is not a new problem with Firefox 2. The problem can be solved with Crescendo, but I need a solution that my
widely scattered computer illiterate family can implement. I hate it that they have to revert to Internet Explorer to
play my web sites. It was hard getting all of them to start using Firefox, but now I have this new battle.

I have several web sites that are photo albums for grandkids. The home page plays bg sound, and when the page is
closed, the sound terminates.

In Firefox, I have been using crescendo for a long time, but it is troublesome for computer illiterate family to deal
with. All works well with MSIE, but no sound with Firefox.

Adding the addon MediaPlayerConnectivty solves the problem... except it is an external window that continues to play
when the source web page is closed. How do I play a midi file in a Firefox page and stop it when the page closes?

Example page has embedded midi file in the TOC frame.

http://www.rnc3.com/brett/

Carl

Nir

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Jan 15, 2007, 12:32:58 AM1/15/07
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo

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Jan 15, 2007, 2:33:46 AM1/15/07
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lurker wrote:
> I have several web sites that are photo albums for grandkids. The home
> page plays bg sound, and when the page is closed, the sound terminates.
>

There's your problem right there. BGSound is an MS priority thing and
it only playes in MS products such as IE. See Nir's response for
possible solutions.

As a side note: I hate it when web sites have background sound. Luckily
for me I have a way to zap that music. What most website owners don't
realize is background sound can cause problems for those viewing the
site. It can make the browser come to a complete crawl when trying to
load the site AND the background music. I feel sorry for those with
slow computers, small ram, and dialup.

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hb

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Jan 15, 2007, 2:33:38 AM1/15/07
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Crescendo, Beatnik and the like have not been in production for many
years, and I have found their use to be problematic.

I tested Quicktime Alternative with your link, above, and it worked
exactly as you wish. You can find that open source application on the
WEB (Google it). Or install the commercial QT player. The basic
edition is free.

lurker

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Jan 15, 2007, 7:54:29 AM1/15/07
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> lurker wrote:
>> I have several web sites that are photo albums for grandkids. The
>> home page plays bg sound, and when the page is closed, the sound
>> terminates.
>>
>
> There's your problem right there. BGSound is an MS priority thing and
> it only playes in MS products such as IE. See Nir's response for
> possible solutions.
>
> As a side note: I hate it when web sites have background sound. Luckily
> for me I have a way to zap that music. What most website owners don't
> realize is background sound can cause problems for those viewing the
> site. It can make the browser come to a complete crawl when trying to
> load the site AND the background music. I feel sorry for those with
> slow computers, small ram, and dialup.
>

Thanks for the comments. They really are appreciated!

The hand full of sites I offer to family are only offered to family and are not generally accessed by the public.
Family is scattered locally and across the country and are 100% cable users... download time is not an issue. All users
except me are completely computer illiterate except for myself and a nephew in Calif... but the two of us know only
enough to be moderately useful and troublesome. I am the only one old enough to know about and appreciate these old
style news groups. I copy and plagiarize things, and I appreciate all the comments and help I can get.

Carl in Raleigh

lurker

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Jan 15, 2007, 8:01:43 AM1/15/07
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We all have Quicktime installed and we 100% have it not working for us. Something we have to do is not enabling it as a
plugin in Firefox.

Firefox tells us "Additional plugins are required to play all the media on this page"

"Install missing Plugins" installs Quicktime "again".

Still does not activate.
I am thinking I have a problem with the Java Script clip I plagiarized. I'm looking for help there.

Much of the family is even more aged than I and think a computer is an appliance. Asking them to edit MIME types is
going to be another issue I may have to deal with.

Carl in Raleigh

lurker

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Jan 15, 2007, 8:02:53 AM1/15/07
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That is a very useful link!
Now I have to figur out where to put the object tags in the script.

Carl

Nir

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Jan 15, 2007, 8:09:58 AM1/15/07
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Ralph Fox

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Jan 15, 2007, 12:27:51 PM1/15/07
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:01:43 -0500, in message <Au6dnc1gIMe_5jbY...@mozilla.org>,
lurker wrote:

> hb wrote:
> > /lurker/ said:
> >> This is not a new problem with Firefox 2. The problem can be solved with Crescendo, but I need a solution that my
> >> widely scattered computer illiterate family can implement. I hate it that they have to revert to Internet Explorer to
> >> play my web sites. It was hard getting all of them to start using Firefox, but now I have this new battle.
> >>
> >> I have several web sites that are photo albums for grandkids. The home page plays bg sound, and when the page is
> >> closed, the sound terminates.
> >>
> >> In Firefox, I have been using crescendo for a long time, but it is troublesome for computer illiterate family to deal
> >> with. All works well with MSIE, but no sound with Firefox.
> >>
> >> Adding the addon MediaPlayerConnectivty solves the problem... except it is an external window that continues to play
> >> when the source web page is closed. How do I play a midi file in a Firefox page and stop it when the page closes?
> >>
> >> Example page has embedded midi file in the TOC frame.
> >>
> >> http://www.rnc3.com/brett/
> >
> > Crescendo, Beatnik and the like have not been in production for many
> > years, and I have found their use to be problematic.
> >
> > I tested Quicktime Alternative with your link, above, and it worked
> > exactly as you wish. You can find that open source application on the
> > WEB (Google it). Or install the commercial QT player. The basic
> > edition is free.
>
> We all have Quicktime installed and we 100% have it not working for us. Something we have to do is not enabling it as a
> plugin in Firefox.
>
> Firefox tells us "Additional plugins are required to play all the media on this page"

It played here 12 hours ago, using the QuickTime plug-in. CCW/bad moon

> "Install missing Plugins" installs Quicktime "again".
>
> Still does not activate.

Enter this in the URL bar
about:plugins
A page will appear showing plugins and media types.

Check that MIDI is handled by QuickTime and that the
"Enabled" column says "Yes".


> I am thinking I have a problem with the Java Script clip I plagiarized. I'm looking for help there.

That JavaScript clip worked here 12 hours ago.

(You seem to have removed it since.)


> Much of the family is even more aged than I and think a computer is an appliance. Asking them to edit MIME types is
> going to be another issue I may have to deal with.
>
> Carl in Raleigh

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Cheers,
Ralph

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

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Jan 15, 2007, 5:15:29 PM1/15/07
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BG Sound is unique only to the IE world.

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lurker

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Jan 15, 2007, 6:59:44 PM1/15/07
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Thanks to all who have contributed here. I have updated based on what I learned. I still have some things to work on
and, including rethinking how I do things.

Carl

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