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Jeff Layman

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Dec 16, 2010, 11:34:33 AM12/16/10
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Wanting to remove the favicon at the front of the URL, I wondered about
installing the style at http://userstyles.org/styles/8026. However,
this favicon is also the Site Identity Button, and the page comes with a
warning that it is not advised to remove the button, as it is part of
Firefox 3's Security system.

I went ahead anyway, and no longer have that icon. But as far as I can
remember from what the SIB did, the same information is available
through Tools | Page Info. So is the SIB just a shortcut to Page Info?

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Jeff

Chris Ilias

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Dec 16, 2010, 4:19:27 PM12/16/10
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The [More information] button that appears when you click on the Site
Identity Button will take you to the Security panel of the Page info
window. The value of the button itself is that it gives a visual
indicator on the fly of how secure the current page is. If you're
looking to replace that functionality so you can remove the Site
Identity Button, the Page Info window will not do unless you plan on
opening it every time you visit a new site.

You could add a script that will change the background colour of the
Location bar, when you visit a secure site.

#urlbar[level] .autocomplete-textbox-container >* {
background-color: #FFFFB7 !important;
}

But that will not distinguish between verified and unverified domains
(blue vs. green Site Identity Button), and will hide link locations in
Firefox 4.

I also don't know how the script to remove the favicon will affect
password prompts in Firefox 4, which are being moved to the Location
bar. See <http://ilias.ca/screenshots/fx4-passwordprompt.png>.

It seems like an awful lot of heartache to get rid of the Site Identity
Button. Why do you want to do that in the first place?

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Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
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Jeff Layman

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Dec 17, 2010, 4:16:55 AM12/17/10
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On 16/12/2010 21:19, Chris Ilias wrote:
> On 10-12-16 11:34 AM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> Wanting to remove the favicon at the front of the URL, I wondered about
>> installing the style at http://userstyles.org/styles/8026. However, this
>> favicon is also the Site Identity Button, and the page comes with a
>> warning that it is not advised to remove the button, as it is part of
>> Firefox 3's Security system.
>>
>> I went ahead anyway, and no longer have that icon. But as far as I can
>> remember from what the SIB did, the same information is available
>> through Tools | Page Info. So is the SIB just a shortcut to Page Info?
>
> The [More information] button that appears when you click on the Site
> Identity Button will take you to the Security panel of the Page info
> window. The value of the button itself is that it gives a visual
> indicator on the fly of how secure the current page is. If you're
> looking to replace that functionality so you can remove the Site
> Identity Button, the Page Info window will not do unless you plan on
> opening it every time you visit a new site.

No. I don't plan on checking Page info every time I visit a new site.
But then I wouldn't have noticed the SIB background colour changing
either! What is it with pastel colours these days? Have FF programmers
got Windows Live Mail Designer Disease?!

> You could add a script that will change the background colour of the
> Location bar, when you visit a secure site.
>
> #urlbar[level] .autocomplete-textbox-container >* {
> background-color: #FFFFB7 !important;
> }
>
> But that will not distinguish between verified and unverified domains
> (blue vs. green Site Identity Button), and will hide link locations in
> Firefox 4.

I visit very few secure sites. When necessary, I check the address is
correct and that it is https rather than just http. Out of interest,
would it be possible to have more obvious colour changes and maybe have
them flash on and off for a few seconds?

> I also don't know how the script to remove the favicon will affect
> password prompts in Firefox 4, which are being moved to the Location
> bar. See <http://ilias.ca/screenshots/fx4-passwordprompt.png>.

(Hopefully a user-selectable option... I use a separate password
manager for all my passwords).

I have just glanced at FF4 on the Mozilla pages, and am not tempted to
load it onto this Win7 machine. I might try it on my old XPH computer to
get the feel of it, but it looks too much like an MS design for my
liking (FF button, and menus hidden by default).

> It seems like an awful lot of heartache to get rid of the Site Identity
> Button. Why do you want to do that in the first place?

See my 14/12/2010 post and replies (in particular that of 15/12 to David
McRitchie) with subject "Favicons".

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Jeff

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