Installed latest firefox, random vanish of 99% of bookmarks, no bookmarks backup folder
Midex
all I have is this one bookmarks.html and if you click on it you just
get the default empty firefox bookmark list but if you look at my
bookmarks through Firefox you can see there are 2% of my personal
bookmarks present. Where are the other 99%? The Date Added of the
remaining bookmarks are random dating back 8 months since I got my
computer. But there are only about 20 bookmarks out of the 1000 I
had.
This was an auto prompt Update install. I never went looking for an
update. I'm not certain that this is even when it happened because the
remaining bookmarks just happen to include the ones which were visible
on the Bookmark Toolbar plus an additional 20.
O.k., perhaps the only bookmarks still present are the first 20 I ever
added to the Bookmarks Toolbar folder. And then there are a couple
from 4 days ago till present, which is around the time I think I
installed the update.
Ron Hunter
The obvious answer is that you are not looking at the right file. If
the file you have located isn't the one Firefox is using, then you need
to find the file it IS using. It's there somewhere. Be sure to search
for hidden files.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Midex
I selected Show Hidden Files in the folder options. Then I search for
"bookmarks" on my root drive and only that one file comes up.
Dood, I have lost 99% of my Bookmarks. Where the fuck are they? And
where is the support? These bastards have rolled out an update which
deletes all your bookmarks? And how do you explain the still randomly
present bookmarks?
>
> --
> Ron Hunter rphun...@charter.net
Leonidas Jones
Calm down. I understand that losing these bookmarks is frustrating, but
foul language is not going to help the situation.
I you have a regular backup routine for important data on your computer,
as we all should, and is you have added your Firefox profile to that
routine, as we all should, your answer should be obvious, restore from
backup.
If you have not been backing up your profile, Firefox does back up the
data for you, in a folder called bookmarkbackups. Note, its not
bookmarksbackups, its bookmarkbackups, so if your as using a system
search feature, make sure you are searching for the correct name.
In this folder should be backups for each of the last five days. This is
true on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
If you really don't have such a folder, which is unlikely, there is a
problem with either your program or your profile. Open Firefox and type
about:config into the location bar. Filter for:
browser.bookmarks.max_backups
The default value is 5. If it has been reset to 0, this would, in
effect disable the backup process. In that case, set it back to 5.
If that was the problem, we are unlikely to be able to restore your
bookmarks unless you have backed them up yourself.
Lee
David McRitchie
> Dood, I have lost 99% of my Bookmarks. Where the ...
heaping abuse on people that are trying to help you or someone
else hardly seems to be an effective way to get help. Especially
when help is free; otherwise, charging triple rates might have some rewards.
--
David McRitchie
Irwin Greenwald
This is the third thread you have started with the same problem. It's
difficult to help you because of the discontinuities in what has been
tried and failed. Do you have a bookmarkbackups (NOTE the
spelling)folder ANYWHERE on your hard drive?
--
Irwin
Please do not use my email address to make requests for help.
Knowledge Base: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Main_Page
Behnam
I can not get rid of my browse history even after clearing them. When I
joined firefox, all my bookmarks appeared in my browse window. In IE,
once you cleared them, you had a clean slate and the first one appearing
there would be your home page and you would accumulate the links as you
go on and those web links that you visited in a set time period would
appear there. In Firefox, I am seeing 400 links in my browser and there
is no way to get rid of them. Any idea?
Thanks, Ben
Leonidas Jones
> Irwin,
>
> I can not get rid of my browse history even after clearing them. When I
> joined firefox, all my bookmarks appeared in my browse window. In IE,
> once you cleared them, you had a clean slate and the first one appearing
> there would be your home page and you would accumulate the links as you
> go on and those web links that you visited in a set time period would
> appear there. In Firefox, I am seeing 400 links in my browser and there
> is no way to get rid of them. Any idea?
>
> Thanks, Ben
>
> Irwin Greenwald wrote:
>> On 12/8/2007 2:09 PM, Midex wrote:
>>> On 8 dez, 11:05, Ron Hunter <rphun...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Midex wrote:
Hi Ben,
Please bottom post in these support groups, that is post your reply
below the quoted text, as I am doing here. Thank you, it makes it so
much easier for us to follow.
You seem to have a new problem, which would probably better addressed in
a new thread, but we are here now so...
You say you have cleared History. Lets review the steps, just to make
sure it really worked:
Tools>>Options>>Privacy
Click Settings. Select the data you want to clear, and click OK. Then
click Clear Now.
Does that clear your history?
I think your reference to bookmarks is a little confused. Bookmarks are
links that you save manually to your bookmarks file, which is accessed
by clicking Bookmarks from the Menubar. That has nothing to do with your
browser history.
Lee
Behnam
Thanks,
BTW, I found you perfectly randomly and don't know how it happened! But,
you seem to knwo a few things more than me regarding Firefox (and
Thunderbird).
Perhaps I used the wrong term. Navigation history may be a better word
for the URLs that you visit. I went to Tools/Options/Privacy/Settings
and cleared Private Data, but all these URLs visitation are still there.
I am very new to this (one day). Can you give me a phone, email address,
chat link, a person, a guru, a site, contact for a human being not
machine, that I can contact. I have a few other questions regarding
Firefox and Thunderbird. For example, I can not receive emails and I
have done all the things I was supposed to do. My gmail account is
healthy and when I use it directly I can send and receive mails, but
through Thunderbird, I can not receive (I can send however).
Is there any Mozilla.Support.Thunderbgroup?
Thanks.
Ben
Leonidas Jones
> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> Behnam wrote:
>
> BTW, I found you perfectly randomly and don't know how it happened! But,
> you seem to knwo a few things more than me regarding Firefox (and
> Thunderbird).
>
> Perhaps I used the wrong term. Navigation history may be a better word
> for the URLs that you visit. I went to Tools/Options/Privacy/Settings
> and cleared Private Data, but all these URLs visitation are still there.
>
> I am very new to this (one day). Can you give me a phone, email address,
> chat link, a person, a guru, a site, contact for a human being not
> machine, that I can contact. I have a few other questions regarding
> Firefox and Thunderbird. For example, I can not receive emails and I
> have done all the things I was supposed to do. My gmail account is
> healthy and when I use it directly I can send and receive mails, but
> through Thunderbird, I can not receive (I can send however).
>
> Is there any Mozilla.Support.Thunderbgroup?
>
> Thanks.
> Ben
I'm up way past my bedtime now, there is a TB group:
news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.thunderbird
We much prefer that discussions stay in these groups. Please check back
here.
If you have cleared the Browsing History in Clear Private Data, your
Location Bar History should have gone away too. Check in Tools>>Options
again.
You can delete individual entries in the Location Bar History, but
highlighting them, then pressing Shift+Delete.
I'm on a Mac, I think its the same on Windows.
Lee
Midex
> Midex wrote:
> > On 8 dez, 11:05, Ron Hunter <rphun...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> Midex wrote:
> >>> wtf?
> >>> get the default emptyfirefoxbookmark list but if you look at my
> >>>bookmarksthroughFirefoxyou can see there are 2% of my personal
> >>>bookmarkspresent. Where are the other 99%? The Date Added of the
> >>> remainingbookmarksare random dating back 8 months since I got my
> >>> computer. But there are only about 20bookmarksout of the 1000 I
> >>> had.
> >>> This was an auto prompt Update install. I never went looking for an
> >>> update. I'm not certain that this is even when it happened because the
> >>> on the Bookmark Toolbar plus an additional 20.
> >>> added to theBookmarksToolbar folder. And then there are a couple
> >>> from 4 days ago till present, which is around the time I think I
> >>> installed the update.
> >> The obvious answer is that you are not looking at the right file. If
> >> to find the file it IS using. It's there somewhere. Be sure to search
> >> for hidden files.
>
> > I selected Show Hidden Files in the folder options. Then I search for
> > "bookmarks" on my root drive and only that one file comes up.
>
> > where is the support? These bastards have rolled out an update which
> foul language is not going to help the situation.
>
> as we all should, and is you have added yourFirefoxprofile to that
> routine, as we all should, your answer should be obvious, restore frombackup.
>
> data for you, in a folder called bookmarkbackups. Note, its not
> bookmarksbackups, its bookmarkbackups, so if your as using a system
> search feature, make sure you are searching for the correct name.
Its not there. And there is nowhere on Firefox to query about it. It
doesn't appear to be an option. And its not there. I have read the
Firefox help pages on this and they claim that there is this backup
folder with five backups in it which backup daily. Well its not there.
And yet I have this version for at least a week:
------------------------
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/
20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11
------------------------
And my last version was 2.0.0.10
>
> In this folder should be backups for each of the last five days. This is
> true on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
Not there. Still not there.
>
> If you really don't have such a folder, which is unlikely, there is a
> problem with either your program or your profile. OpenFirefoxand type
> about:config into the location bar. Filter for:
>
> browser.bookmarks.max_backups
>
> The default value is 5. If it has been reset to 0, this would, in
> effect disable thebackupprocess. In that case, set it back to 5.
The value is set to 5 as you say it should be. So this doesn't explain
why amd am having this trouble.
>
> If that was the problem, we are unlikely to be able to restore >yourbookmarksunless you have backed them up yourself.
Well that wasn't that problem. So where are my backups and why don't I
have any still today even though 24 hours ago I decided to get rid of
my portuguese Firefox and install the English latest version. There
should be at least one backup there by now. And there should be a
backup folder right? Well there isn't. Just Profile and then these
four files:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:\Arquivos de programas\Mozilla Firefox\defaults\profile
bookmarks.html
localstore.rdf
mimeTypes.rdf
search.rdf
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Lee
Thanks for your help but I still don't even have backups automated let
alone know where my original bookmarks went and why I have a
viralesque random remaining 1% of them. And also why when I open the
above bookmarks.htlm file do I just get the default FireFox bookmarks
and none of my bookmarks which I can see in my Bookmark Folder? Where
is Friefox getting by remaining 20 bookmarks from if not from that
file?
>
Midex
> On 12/8/2007 2:09 PM, Midex wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 8 dez, 11:05, Ron Hunter <rphun...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> Midex wrote:
> >>> wtf?
> >>> get the default emptyfirefoxbookmark list but if you look at my
> >>>bookmarksthroughFirefoxyou can see there are 2% of my personal
> >>>bookmarkspresent. Where are the other 99%? The Date Added of the
> >>> remainingbookmarksare random dating back 8 months since I got my
> >>> computer. But there are only about 20bookmarksout of the 1000 I
> >>> had.
> >>> This was an auto prompt Update install. I never went looking for an
> >>> update. I'm not certain that this is even when it happened because the
> >>> on the Bookmark Toolbar plus an additional 20.
> >>> added to theBookmarksToolbar folder. And then there are a couple
> >>> from 4 days ago till present, which is around the time I think I
> >>> installed the update.
> >> The obvious answer is that you are not looking at the right file. If
> >> to find the file it IS using. It's there somewhere. Be sure to search
> >> for hidden files.
>
> > I selected Show Hidden Files in the folder options. Then I search for
> > "bookmarks" on my root drive and only that one file comes up.
>
> > where is the support? These bastards have rolled out an update which
second. Thought I'd reword it better.
>you have started with the same problem. It's
> difficult to help you because of the discontinuities in what has been
> tried and failed. Do you have a bookmarkbackups (NOTE the
> spelling)folder ANYWHERE on your hard drive?
no.
I am on the computer 24/7 for the last two years. You're not talking
to a mum here.
I know how to follow instructions step by step.
No. No such folder. Not in the trash, nowhere.
If I just search for "bookmark" I should get it too. Which is what I
originally did. Only file that comes up is bookmarks.html
Midex
>
> heaping abuse on people that are trying to help you or someone
> else hardly seems to be an effective way to get help. Especially
> when help is free; otherwise, charging triple rates might have some rewards.
Free help for you is free bug reporting. Don't get cheeky with me
mate. I'm working for nothing for you guys here. I should charge you
Systems Test Monkey rates.
> --
> David McRitchie
Midex
> check here to see if you can find a second profile folder.. maybe the
> update created one and now directs you there!http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile
> reg
Well according to the help it says:
--------------
Locate your profile folder
Knowing where your profile folder is stored can be useful if, for
example, you want to make a backup of your personal data.
* On Windows Vista/XP/2000, the path is usually %AppData%\Mozilla
\Firefox\Profiles\xxxxxxxx.default\, where xxxxxxxx is a random string
of 8 characters. Just browse to C:\Documents and Settings\[User Name]
\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ on Windows XP/2000 or C:
\users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
--------
But the closest I can find to that is:
C:\Arquivos de programas\Mozilla Firefox\defaults\profile
In the C:\Arquivos de programas\Mozilla Firefox\
there is no "Profiles" folder as descirbed above. There is however a
"Defaults" and inside that a "Profile" folder. And inside that there
are the following files:
------------
A "chrome" folder
bookmarks.html
localstore.rdf
mimeTypes.rdf
search.rdf
-------
Inside the folder named "chrome":
userChrome-example.css (1K)
userContent-example.css (2K)
THATS ALL FOLKS.
"Arquivos de Programas" is portuguese for Data of Programs
(Application Data)
Ron Hunter
This fact alone tells me you are NOT looking in the right place for your
profile. Firefox can't invent your old bookmarks from some magical
formula, so it MUST be reading them from a file, somewhere, even if it
isn't complete, and you will probably find your backups there too.
Make sure you search ALL mounted drives, and if you were using a
'jumpdrive' at the time you saved bookmarks, you might just install it
and search there too.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Ron Hunter
It appears your application data folder is NOT on your drive C. Search
ALL attached drives, and if you are on a network, search those too.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Ron Hunter
your fault, and I will bet it IS.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Leonidas Jones
Maybe a translation problem?
I don't speak Portuguese, but that path sounds much more like
what is called in English:
C:\Program Files|Mozilla Firefox
Thats the location of the program files, not the profile. The defaults
folder you have found is the location of default files that are used in
creating new profiles.
I've never used Vista, so I can't be real specific, but Application Data
is hidden under 2K and XP, so it must be hidden also on Vista. I'm sure
you know this, and I'm sure you have enabled hidden files and folders to
be shown, so I am at a loss as to why you can't find the profile.
Lee
Leonidas Jones
> On 8 dez, 23:12, Leonidas Jones <LeonidasJo...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Midex wrote:
>>> On 8 dez, 11:05, Ron Hunter <rphun...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Midex wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> C:\Arquivos de programas\Mozilla Firefox\defaults\profile
>
> bookmarks.html
> localstore.rdf
> mimeTypes.rdf
> search.rdf
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> alone know where my original bookmarks went and why I have a
> viralesque random remaining 1% of them. And also why when I open the
> above bookmarks.htlm file do I just get the default FireFox bookmarks
> and none of my bookmarks which I can see in my Bookmark Folder? Where
> is Friefox getting by remaining 20 bookmarks from if not from that
> file?
>
I think, by now, you can see how confusing this spreading over multiple
threads is. I've posted an answer in another location, and others have
probably posted the same answer in other threads.
The location you mention is *not* the location of your profile, its the
program files. You'll find firefox.exe, the executable in there too.
The defaults folder contains the default files that are inserted when a
new profile is created. That might very well account for
One of two things would seem to have happened: 1)Your bookmarks,html
file was so corrupted that Firefox created a new one from the default,
or 2) Firefox created a new profile on you.
Go to Start>>Run, and type firefox.exe -p into the field, note the
space, it is important. That will open Profile Manager, If you see more
then one profile listed, start in each one, and see if you can find the
one that has your bookmarks.
If there is only one, click Create Profile. In the wizard click next,
the look for:
"Your user settings, preferences, bookmarks and mail (sic) will be
stored in"
And it should give the default path for profile location on your
machine. It should be something like:
C:\\Documents and Settings\(username)\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
Cancel out of the wizard, unless you really want to create a new profile.
You should then be able to navigate to that location, find your profile
and thus the bookmarkbackups folder to restore your bookmarks.
The only reason your old profile would be stored somewhere other then
where the new one would be created, would be if you inteneionally moved
it somewhere else, in which case none of us can help you.
Lee
teabag
news:GIqdndmiYdn2ucHa...@mozilla.org:
To see anything in Documents and Settings|Application Data in Vista the
permissions must be changed. Change owner from SYSTEM to an Administrator
account. In your Windows profile R-click on th applicationdata folder and
select properties. go to the Security tab, click on advanced, go to owner
tab click edit. Click through the UAC warning and you will be able to
select an accessible profile. Be sure to check the box "Replace all
existing inheritable permissions on all descendants..."
HTH
tb
Leonidas Jones
> Leonidas Jones <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in
> news:GIqdndmiYdn2ucHa...@mozilla.org:
>
>> Midex wrote:
>>> On 9 dez, 09:46, Midex <milliondollarexecut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8 dez, 23:26, Irwin Greenwald <oi...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/8/2007 2:09 PM, Midex wrote:
>>>>>> On 8 dez, 11:05, Ron Hunter <rphun...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Midex wrote:
>
> To see anything in Documents and Settings|Application Data in Vista the
> permissions must be changed. Change owner from SYSTEM to an Administrator
> account. In your Windows profile R-click on th applicationdata folder and
> select properties. go to the Security tab, click on advanced, go to owner
> tab click edit. Click through the UAC warning and you will be able to
> select an accessible profile. Be sure to check the box "Replace all
> existing inheritable permissions on all descendants..."
>
> HTH
> tb
This problem is being pursued in so many threads that I am getting
confused. A glance at the headers show the OP is using XP after all.
Lee
teabag
Just be forwarned that anyone wanting to add a user.js or user*.css will
need to go through this process on Vista.
tb
David McRitchie
>> teabag wrote:
>>> To see anything in Documents and Settings|Application Data in Vista [clipped]
>
> Just be forwarned that anyone wanting to add a user.js or user*.css will
> need to go through this process on Vista.
The original poster is assumed (by Lee) to be FF 2.0.0.11 on Windows XP, so that was
just a note for others, but Vista users probably wouldn't be going there anyway
to look at their profile.
In Vista the user's profile (by default) is in
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<profile>
and the instructions to use %APPDATA% as described in
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Firefox does work, and actually was
quoted by the original poster
The main problem faced by users is finding their profile and the usual readonly
attributes. Restores from CDs of a profile are most succeptable to read only file
attributes being turned on for everything in a folder, but bookmarks.html is
readonly by default.
Midex
I'm happy to go along with that. So where are my backup bookmarks? And
also where are my original bookmarks? And also, how come I've got an
apparent random 1% of my original bookmarks still in my bookmarks
toolbar?
Midex
Midex
its not Vista I'm talking about. I've got XP. I truncated the part
about where it is in Vista.
I think Ron Hunter may be on to something here.
Yep:
C:\Documents and Settings\User\Dados de aplicativos\Mozilla\Firefox
\Profiles\2ptc4fkn.default\bookmarkbackups
Alright but its weird that searching for "bookmark" on my C drive
it wasn't coming up.
And guess what? I just went and did the search again, and they all
came up.
So who knows. This seems to have been a problem with my Explorer
Search function.
Thanks guys. Wicked. I've found my original lost bookmarks!
Midex
> teabag wrote:
> > Leonidas Jones <LeonidasJo...@netscape.net> wrote in
I'm sorry about that. I will go close the other threads where I
mentioned it.
Sorry, just first time here and wasn't familiar with common sense
protocols.
David McRitchie
>> >>> Dood, I have lost 99% of myBookmarks. ...
First of all would like to know for sure what
operating system, and what version of Firefox
you are on now, and what FF version you were on before that.
And did you find more than one profile when you
ran the firefox.exe -p from start run.
If you follow the directions in
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/profile.htm
1) you should be able to find your profile or multiple profiles
if you have more than one.
2) you should be able to display hidden file through your
folder options, and to turn off
read only attributes from a higher level directory and
include subdirectories when turning them off.
3) then you will be able to see the
bookmarks.html file
bookmarks.bak file
bookmarkbackups folder
if you see bookmarks (2).html numbered files then Firefox was not able to
write to the file because the readonly bit was on, so had to create
a new file. Look at the dates of the files and of the ones in the folder.
Suggest you backup your profiles folder (would include all of your profiles)
and unfortunately until you move your cache out of your profile it would backup
so any cumulative backups would have a lot of cache files.
I use XCOPY (like in DOS commands) in .bat files to backup
my user files.
If you did do the firefox.exe -p
from start run, then you know what your profiles are. The actual
profile directories will have random/hash characters along with
the names to make sure they are uniquely named.
HTH,
David McRitchie,
Firefox Custom: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm
scipio6
"Leonidas Jones" <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:-vWdnU3ay7dfF8ba...@mozilla.org...
When you go Tools>Options>Privacy tab>Settings button, be sure to place a
check next to Browsing History and then click OK. When you return to the
Privacy Tab, click the Clear Now button and that should clear all History
entries.
Midex
>
> > > * On Windows Vista/XP/2000, the path is usually %AppData%\Mozilla
> > > \Firefox\Profiles\xxxxxxxx.default\, where xxxxxxxx is a random string
> > > of 8 characters. Just browse to C:\Documents and Settings\[User Name]
> > > \Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ on Windows XP/2000 or C:
> > > \users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\
> > > --------
>
> > > But the closest I can find to that is:
>
Actually I am erred above where I say that they now appear in the
Explorer Search. The files which appeared were because I'd just copied
then to another folder in My Documents. I'm searching on C: root. I
only have one drive.
If I go to this file manually:
C:\Documents and Settings\User\Dados de aplicativos\Mozilla\Firefox
\Profiles\2ptc4fkn.default\
I can see the bookmarbackup folder and it in I can see the five backup
html files such as:
bookmarks-2007-12-09.html
However if I search for file names containing "bookmark" those files
don't come up.
And for example I will try a searhc for specifically:
bookmarks-2007-12-09.html
Nothing comes up in the Search results except for the copy I just made
in the My Documents folder.
Anyone got a clue why this is? I understand this is now a non-FF issue
isn't it.
Midex
Why don't you write FF so that the user can see their profile from the
Options menus? And so that the user can tell FF where to put the
bookmarks and backups?
David McRitchie
the complete thread can best be seen on Google Groups, due to the
massive quoting (untrimmed) replies, and renaming of the thread subject.
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_frm/thread/eb22b83df4beae5/8da44df14576e666#8da44df14576e666
Certainly good news, for everyone.
Midex
O.k. I can find them and have imported them. I was looking in the
wrong folder.
But the problem still remains that Explorer Search was not and still
is not finding those bookmark htmls in the Profile folder. It doesn't
even work if I use the exact file name. And if I go looking for them
manually I can find them, so they are not hidden.
hang on, perhaps in the Advanced options of Search I've got "Do not
look for hidden folders" check. YEP! Rather you have to specifically
ask it to search for hidden files.
Anyway guys:
(1) Why are the files default hidden by Firefox?
(2) Why don't you allow the User to chose in Tools->Options where to
put their bookmarks.html and backup folder? You could sync the two and
keep your originals where they are.
Seems to me everyone is always having difficultly finding their
bookmarks.html folder.
Leonidas Jones
> On 9 dez, 18:08, "David McRitchie" <nospam@nospam> wrote:
>>>> teabag wrote:
>
> Why don't you write FF so that the user can see their profile from the
> Options menus? And so that the user can tell FF where to put the
> bookmarks and backups?
Midex, obviously you have a complete and total misunderstanding of the
nature of these newsgroups.
These are peer to peer user support groups. The people who have been
trying to help you, and to whom you have been rather rude, are not
Firefox developers, nor paid personnel of any sort.
We are all users who spend our free time here trying to help other users
who are having difficulty. *We* cannot *write* FF at all. We can only
help people make the application work.
Would it hur to have a little courtesy?
Lee
Chris Ilias
> Why don't you write FF so that the user can see their profile from the
> Options menus? And so that the user can tell FF where to put the
> bookmarks and backups?
Already have.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367596
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.firefox/msg/b3ff412e18cfc373
:-)
I'm hoping for the first one to get implemented by version 3.
The new places bookmarks system for Firefox 3 is supposed to fix the
lost bookmarks issue.
If you ever want to file a bug or request, you can do it at
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/>.
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Chris Ilias
> Anyway guys:
> (1) Why are the files default hidden by Firefox?
Windows puts all user application data in a hidden folder.
> (2) Why don't you allow the User to chose in Tools->Options where to
> put their bookmarks.html and backup folder? You could sync the two and
> keep your originals where they are.
Perhaps this will help:
<http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/04/customize-the-firefox-bookmarks-location/>
Leonidas Jones
They are not hidden by Firefox, they are hidden by Windows. Firefox is
simply placing the profile data in the location Windows prefers,
Application Data. Windows hides this data so that inexperienced users do
not dmage their systems. We can disagree, but that is a Microsoft decision.
> (2) Why don't you allow the User to chose in Tools->Options where to
> put their bookmarks.html and backup folder? You could sync the two and
> keep your originals where they are.
You can access Profile Manager, as I explained earlier, and set up a
profile in any location you might desire, then migrate your data. You
can also use about:config to set a custom location for bookmarks.html.
>
> Seems to me everyone is always having difficultly finding their
> bookmarks.html folder.
Really? On what do you base this? The vast majority of users have no
problem at with their bookmarks. It is true, there is a percentage that
have had trouble, which is why the automated bookmarks backup was
included. There are enough people having trouble to warrant concern, but
still, that vast majority do not have trouble.
You also keep saying, "Why don't you" do this or that. As i tried to
explain elsewhere in this thread, this is a peer to peer support group.
I don't have the knowledge to contribute code. The contribution I can
make is to offer support in my spare time.
If you have the knowledge to write code, "why don't you"? If you can
contribute code, do so. i wish I could.
Lee
David McRitchie
> Anyway guys:
> (1) Why are the files default hidden by Firefox?
> (2) Why don't you allow the User to chose in Tools->Options where to
> put their bookmarks.html and backup folder? You could sync the two and
> keep your originals where they are.
>
> Seems to me everyone is always having difficultly finding their
> bookmarks.html folder.
It is Microsoft that decided files should be hidden.
If you want to be an advanced user it is up to you to ignore the hidden
bits and simply read the files see my profile.htm page.
It is Mozilla that purposely wants to make it difficult for you to
find your profile.
It is up to you to become an advanced user in their eyes whether
you want to or not, so that you can find your profile, even when
you are in Safe Mode. Read my profile.htm page.
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/profile.htm
In other words you found your way to this newsgroup, and if you can
read some Mozillazine articles you are by definition (Mozilla's)
an advanced user. Believe me, I tried to convince some Mozilla
staff to make it easy to find the profile, and I'm certainly not the first
by many years, but the best they would consider was hiding it in the
Help menu and I can tell you right now it is not there in Firefox 3 Beta 1
either. So if you are in Safe Mode you are SOL.
Please don't change the name of the subject within a thread.
Please try do limit it to like about thirty characters, but make
it unique and properly describe the question (you got the unique part down pat)..
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Ron Hunter
Both are good ideas. I find putting the bookmark backups in the FF
profile folder to be a bad practice, from a logical point of view.
Should something happen to the profile folder, the bookmark backups
would be lost.
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Ron Hunter
My best guess is that your bookmarks.html file got corrupted somehow.
Computers aren't perfect, and hard drives sometimes mess up, and users
sometimes do stupid things, like turning off a computer before files are
completely written to disk, and uncontrollable situations, like random
power failures, sometimes cause loss of data. Still, if you can find
your backup files, you should be able to get back all of your bookmarks.
It is just a matter of finding where FF has stored the data on your
system, and moving the backup data to the proper place.
Finding it is the first step.
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Ron Hunter
Now, go through the process of making your hidden files visible. That
will simplify finding things in the future. Note that the search in
Windows Explorer is terrible, and often misses files that it should see.
If you want a GOOD file search program, check out "locate32".
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Ron Hunter
Firefox doesn't hide files. Windows hides files. I agree, strongly,
that the user should choose the backup folder location, but the
developers don't listen to me. Grin.
You can set Windows to show hidden files.
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Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Ron Hunter
> On 12/9/07 10:24 PM, _Midex_ spoke thusly:
>> Anyway guys:
>> (1) Why are the files default hidden by Firefox?
>
> Windows puts all user application data in a hidden folder.
>
>> (2) Why don't you allow the User to chose in Tools->Options where to
>> put their bookmarks.html and backup folder? You could sync the two and
>> keep your originals where they are.
>
> Perhaps this will help:
> <http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/04/customize-the-firefox-bookmarks-location/>
Users who do this should be aware that if they uninstall and reinstall
FF, they may have to tell the new installation where to find the
bookmarks file. Also, making a new profile will undo this process.
My advice: Leave the location of ALL FILES where the default puts them,
and make backups by using a backup program to another location. This
avoids problems in the future. Also, change the OS settings to make
hidden files visible.
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Irwin Greenwald
> >
> > Perhaps this will help:
> >
> <http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/04/customize-the-firefox-bookmarks-location/>
>
> Users who do this should be aware that if they uninstall and
> reinstall FF, they may have to tell the new installation where to
> find the bookmarks file.
I doubt it: prefs.js should contain the new pref.
Also, making a new profile will undo this
> process.
True
> My advice: Leave the location of ALL FILES where the default puts
> them, and make backups by using a backup program to another location.
> This avoids problems in the future. Also, change the OS settings to
> make hidden files visible.
>
After mucking around with profiles on different drives, MAIL folders not
in the profile, etc., I agree with you on this. The one change I won't
go back on is having my mail folder names reflect the mail account names!
The Real Bev
> Midex wrote:
>> "Arquivos de Programas" is portuguese for Data of Programs
>> (Application Data)
>
> Maybe a translation problem?
>
> I don't speak Portuguese, but that path sounds much more like
> what is called in English:
>
> C:\Program Files|Mozilla Firefox
>
> Thats the location of the program files, not the profile. The defaults
> folder you have found is the location of default files that are used in
> creating new profiles.
>
> I've never used Vista, so I can't be real specific, but Application Data
> is hidden under 2K and XP, so it must be hidden also on Vista. I'm sure
> you know this, and I'm sure you have enabled hidden files and folders to
> be shown, so I am at a loss as to why you can't find the profile.
A slightly different suggestion: search for a file named downloads.rdf
(or whatever windows calls it, probably the same thing) or some other
infrequent filename contained in the same subdirectory as
bookmarks.html. I have only 5 of them, 4 of them in other profiles or
older moz/FF/NS installations which only the paranoid keep on hand Just
In Case.
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