Re: Is it possible to disable the "Firefox automatically sends some data to Mozilla so that we can improve your experience" nag in Fx20?

[»Q«]

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 13:58:58 -0500
"Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]" <.@.> wrote:

> So, with Fx20, the new nag at the bottom of the screen---"Firefox
> automatically sends some data to Mozilla so that we can improve your
> experience"---pops up along with the "Choose what I share" button. Is
> this something that can be disabled via pref in about:config or
> elsewhere?
>
> Currently I have a lockPref enable to prevent tampering with "Enable
> Telemetry" and it is turned off (read: unchecked). There is no pref in
> about:config I know to do the same for "Enable Crash Reporter" but, in
> my case, it is enabled.

I don't know, but you might find the needed prefs in the code linked
from <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=804745#c40>. In
addition to telemetry and crash reporting, there's now "Firefox Health
Report" to deal with.

[WaltS]

On 04/04/2013 02:58 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
> So, with Fx20, the new nag at the bottom of the screen---"Firefox
> automatically sends some data to Mozilla so that we can improve your
> experience"---pops up along with the "Choose what I share" button. Is
> this something that can be disabled via pref in about:config or
> elsewhere?
>
> Currently I have a lockPref enable to prevent tampering with "Enable
> Telemetry" and it is turned off (read: unchecked). There is no pref in
> about:config I know to do the same for "Enable Crash Reporter" but, in
> my case, it is enabled.
>

> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
>

Click the "Chose what I share" button, and deselect what you don't want
to share.

Alternately go to the Advanced Tab of preferences, select the Data
Choices tab and remove the check mark from "Enable Telemetry.

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[WaltS]

I don't see a Firefox Health Report in my Firefox 20.0.

[EE]

You can disable telemetry from the about:config page. I changed 2 settings:
toolkit.telemetry.enabled = false
toolkit.telemetry.rejected = true

[»Q«]

On Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:18:21 -0500

> This applies only to Fx21, not Fx20.

Sorry for the bum steer. I'm still using Fx 19, and I assumed the new
UI nag and the new reporting had landed on the same version.

I can't find a pref for turning off the nag. I'll look for one once I
get Fx 20.

[PhillipJones]

> Crud, I've already got these set as such. In addition to:
>
> ("toolkit.telemetry.prompted", 2"). Starting to wonder if it is
> hard-coded in.

Yes there is a FireFox Health Report open the preferences in any of the
Beta Channel versions. By the way the latest Beta out is 21. Just
updated day before yesterday.

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[WaltS]

> Crud, I've already got these set as such. In addition to:
>
> ("toolkit.telemetry.prompted", 2"). Starting to wonder if it is
> hard-coded in.
>

You can also "Disable Telemetry" from the "about:telemetry" page.

<http://imgur.com/RMgQBuJ>

Has anyone, but me, looked at what it collects? What should I be worried
about?

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <RKednThfJ86btP3M...@mozilla.org>, WaltS
<wls1...@REMOVEyahoo.com> writes:
[]

>You can also "Disable Telemetry" from the "about:telemetry" page.

[]
I knew about about:config, but this was the first time I'd encountered
the above. How many of these about: pages are there, and how do we find
out about them?
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[WaltS]

On 04/07/2013 10:01 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <RKednThfJ86btP3M...@mozilla.org>, WaltS
> <wls1...@REMOVEyahoo.com> writes:
> []
>> You can also "Disable Telemetry" from the "about:telemetry" page.
> []
> I knew about about:config, but this was the first time I'd encountered
> the above. How many of these about: pages are there, and how do we find
> out about them?
>

about:about

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[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <d42dnYniqovj4vzM...@mozilla.org>, WaltS

<wls1...@REMOVEyahoo.com> writes:
>On 04/07/2013 10:01 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> In message <RKednThfJ86btP3M...@mozilla.org>, WaltS
>> <wls1...@REMOVEyahoo.com> writes:
>> []
>>> You can also "Disable Telemetry" from the "about:telemetry" page.
>> []
>> I knew about about:config, but this was the first time I'd encountered
>> the above. How many of these about: pages are there, and how do we find
>> out about them?
>>
>
>about:about
>

Thanks! I'd never have thought of that. Quite pleasing bit of recursion!

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[0'Grady]

On 4/4/2013 13:58, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
> So, with Fx20, the new nag at the bottom of the screen---"Firefox
> automatically sends some data to Mozilla so that we can improve your
> experience"---pops up along with the "Choose what I share" button. Is
> this something that can be disabled via pref in about:config or
> elsewhere?
>
> Currently I have a lockPref enable to prevent tampering with "Enable
> Telemetry" and it is turned off (read: unchecked). There is no pref in
> about:config I know to do the same for "Enable Crash Reporter" but, in
> my case, it is enabled.
>

> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
>

I've read this entire thread and didn't find the solution. Have you
found any way to turn off that perpetual nag at bottom of the screen:

"Firefox automatically sends some data to Mozilla so that we can improve

your experience"...??? It's really annoying! My telemetry is supposedly
disabled but the nag continues. It's the nag I want to get rid of. I
don't want to send anything to Mozilla and I don't want to be reminded
about it!
Thanks.

--
0'Grady

[WaltS]

Could you post a screen shot of what you are seeing? I don't see that nag.

Have you tried a new profile?

[0'Grady]

No, I can't post a screenshot immediately because I can't make it appear
on demand. Apparently it's random or caused by unknown factors. Do you
doubt that it happens? It's exactly as Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
described, so I'm confirming his observation. That should be sufficient.

No, I haven't tried a new profile and don't intend to do so. That would
be too much trouble. I've made various necessary tweaks to about:config
and other settings over many versions of FF and may not remember them
all nor how to reinstate them.

--
0'Grady

[»Q«]

> Crud, I've already got these set as such. In addition to:
>
> ("toolkit.telemetry.prompted", 2").

^

If that's pasted from prefs.js, taking out the extraneous quote
character may help.

Having spent some time looking, I can't find any other prefs that may
affect the nag. Sorry, and good luck.

[»Q«]

Wolf has his prefs locked. Unless yours are locked too, you're not
dealing with the same issue he is, in which case I'd start a new thread
if I were you.

> No, I haven't tried a new profile and don't intend to do so. That
> would be too much trouble. I've made various necessary tweaks to
> about:config and other settings over many versions of FF and may not
> remember them all nor how to reinstate them.

Creating a new profile does not affect the profile you prefer using.

[0'Grady]

I'm not a tech wizard and have no idea what you mean by prefs locked. It
happened to him, and it happened to me. That should be sufficient info.
The question remains: How do we kill this unwanted nag?

>> No, I haven't tried a new profile and don't intend to do so. That
>> would be too much trouble. I've made various necessary tweaks to
>> about:config and other settings over many versions of FF and may not
>> remember them all nor how to reinstate them.
>
> Creating a new profile does not affect the profile you prefer using.
>

Maybe for you, but I have no idea how to do that, nor am I interested!
I'm only interested in killing the unwanted telemetry nag as explained
above.
--
0'Grady

[WaltS]

> Never mind about the about:telemetry method, it's the same as the
> checkbox in Tools > Options > Advanced > Data Choices > Enable
> Telemetry.
>
> The nag is really, really annoying if it can't be turned off. I
> realize this info is actually useful to Mozilla to make a better
> browser, by damn, let us turn it off if we want to.
>

I'm outraged! I just got the nag using my newly created Firefox 21.0b1
profile. Yesterday I opened Firefox several times after creating the
profile without seeing the nag.

Do you click the 'x' next to the 'Choose What I Share' button to dismiss
it, or activate the button and choose what you share?

I'll activate the button, choose, and see if I ever get the nag again.

I chose to enable then all.

[marc...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:58:58 PM UTC+2, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
> So, with Fx20, the new nag at the bottom of the screen---"Firefox
>
> automatically sends some data to Mozilla so that we can improve your
>
> experience"---pops up along with the "Choose what I share" button. Is
>
> this something that can be disabled via pref in about:config or
>
> elsewhere?
>
>
>
> Currently I have a lockPref enable to prevent tampering with "Enable
>
> Telemetry" and it is turned off (read: unchecked). There is no pref in
>
> about:config I know to do the same for "Enable Crash Reporter" but, in
>
> my case, it is enabled.
>
>
>
> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

That's what's changing in prefs.js when you click the bar:

user_pref("datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionPolicyAccepted", true);
user_pref("datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionPolicyAcceptedVersion", 1);
user_pref("datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionPolicyNotifiedTime", "1365509001307");
user_pref("datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionPolicyResponseTime", "1365517336671");
user_pref("datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionPolicyResponseType", "accepted-info-bar-dismissed");

You'll also find those entries in about:config, so you'll should be able to kill them off this way.

[Jim Porter]

On 04/06/2013 08:54 AM, WaltS wrote:
> Has anyone, but me, looked at what it collects? What should I be worried
> about?

The second Google result for "firefox telemetry" explains what Telemetry
is for:
https://blog.mozilla.org/tglek/2011/09/20/firefox-7-telemetry-faster-startup/

The data I see in about:telemetry (since I have it enabled) is a test
for slow SQL statements, some info about my OS, CPU, and installed
drivers, and some performance data on how long some common operations
take (e.g. startup and shutdown).

- Jim

[tog...@gmail.com]

>
> Hmm, weird. I did check the prefs.js and didn't see any of these show
> up. I wonder if having telemetry disabled prevents these prefs from
> showing up in prefs.js.
>
> I'll give these a shot. Thanks for passing it along.

>
> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

I had the same issue...very annoying

try these steps

1. in url type about:config
2. click yes I will be carefull
3. look for the following:
datareporting.healthreport.service.firstRun click on it to change to false
datareporting.healthreport.service.firstRun click on it to change to false
4. restart browser

I notice the darn thing keeps re-appearing everytime I start the Browser and with the above it is now gone away for me.

hope this helps

[Good Guy]

On 30/01/2015 15:17, tog...@gmail.com wrote:

try these steps

1. in url type about:config
2. click yes I will be carefull
3. look for the following:
datareporting.healthreport.service.firstRun   click on it to change to false
datareporting.healthreport.service.firstRun   click on it to change to false
4. restart browser

I notice the darn thing keeps re-appearing everytime I start the Browser and with the above it is now gone away for me.

hope this helps

You could have done it through the UI as shown in this picture:

[jste...@eusd.org]

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 at 11:58:58 AM UTC-7, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
> So, with Fx20, the new nag at the bottom of the screen---"Firefox
> automatically sends some data to Mozilla so that we can improve your
> experience"---pops up along with the "Choose what I share" button. Is
> this something that can be disabled via pref in about:config or
> elsewhere?
>
> Currently I have a lockPref enable to prevent tampering with "Enable
> Telemetry" and it is turned off (read: unchecked). There is no pref in
> about:config I know to do the same for "Enable Crash Reporter" but, in
> my case, it is enabled.
>

> - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

Just in case this helps a future Google searcher, the current pref is:

lockPref("datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionPolicyBypassNotification", true);

[EE]

The setting I used is datareporting.policy.dataSubmissionEnabled set to
false.