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B00ze

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Jan 26, 2016, 7:52:12 PM1/26/16
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Good day.

Anybody know how to disable Web Push completely in new FF44? I.E.
Prevent FF from connecting to the Mozilla push server...?

Best Regards,

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»Q«

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Jan 26, 2016, 8:01:42 PM1/26/16
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B00ze <B00...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Anybody know how to disable Web Push completely in new FF44? I.E.
> Prevent FF from connecting to the Mozilla push server...?

Setting dom.push.enabled to 'false' should do it. For redundancy, you
might also set dom.push.serverURL to something like
"wws://domain.invalid".

WaltS48

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Jan 26, 2016, 8:09:33 PM1/26/16
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I thought there was a checkbox the user could select called "Do not
disturb me" in Tools > Options > Content on Windows. No?

Web Push notifications in Firefox | Firefox Help -
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/push-notifications-firefox?as=u&utm_source=inproduct#firefox:win8:fx44>

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Jan 26, 2016, 8:45:41 PM1/26/16
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WaltS48 <thali...@REMOVEaim.com> wrote:

> On 01/26/2016 08:00 PM, »Q« wrote:
> > In
> > <news:mailman.1871.145385592...@lists.mozilla.org>,
> > B00ze <B00...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Anybody know how to disable Web Push completely in new FF44? I.E.
> >> Prevent FF from connecting to the Mozilla push server...?
> >
> > Setting dom.push.enabled to 'false' should do it. For redundancy,
> > you might also set dom.push.serverURL to something like
> > "wws://domain.invalid".
>
> I thought there was a checkbox the user could select called "Do not
> disturb me" in Tools > Options > Content on Windows. No?
>
> Web Push notifications in Firefox | Firefox Help -
> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/push-notifications-firefox?as=u&utm_source=inproduct#firefox:win8:fx44>

I think (but am not sure) that the 'Do not disturb me' box just stops
Firefox from displaying any more notifications during the current
session.

I also don't know whether a connection to Mozilla's push server is made
if the user hasn't opted in, enabling at least one site's
notifications. If it isn't, the best answer for the OP may be just 'do
nothing'.



PietB

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Jan 27, 2016, 4:43:51 AM1/27/16
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»Q« wrote:
> WaltS48 wrote:
>> »Q« wrote:
>>> B00ze wrote:
>>>> Anybody know how to disable Web Push completely in new FF44? I.E.
>>>> Prevent FF from connecting to the Mozilla push server...?
>>>
>>> Setting dom.push.enabled to 'false' should do it. For redundancy,
>>> you might also set dom.push.serverURL to something like
>>> "wws://domain.invalid".
>>
>> I thought there was a checkbox the user could select called "Do not
>> disturb me" in Tools > Options > Content on Windows. No?
>>
>> Web Push notifications in Firefox | Firefox Help -
>> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/push-notifications-firefox?as=u&utm_source=inproduct#firefox:win8:fx44>
>
> I think (but am not sure) that the 'Do not disturb me' box just stops
> Firefox from displaying any more notifications during the current
> session.
>
> I also don't know whether a connection to Mozilla's push server is
> made if the user hasn't opted in, enabling at least one site's
> notifications. If it isn't, the best answer for the OP may be just
> 'do nothing'.

Checking the 'Do not disturb me' box indeed is only effective for the
current session. After restarting FF you have to check it again.
But I haven't tried it with any site allowed. Which isn't easy to test
anyway, since you can't just add a site to the whitelist, but you have
to wait till you hit upon a site wanting to push.

Setting dom.push.enabled to false appears to be persistent. And to be
sure I've also followed your suggestion and changed the server's URL,
but to wss://push.services.mozilla.invalid/ so it's easier to know how
to 'repair' it if need arises.
I'm not sure yet if dom.push.connection.enabled should also be set to
false, but I've given it a try, sofar without adverse effects.

-p

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Jan 27, 2016, 10:15:44 AM1/27/16
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»Q« <box...@gmx.net> wrote:

> I also don't know whether a connection to Mozilla's push server is
> made if the user hasn't opted in, enabling at least one site's
> notifications. If it isn't, the best answer for the OP may be just
> 'do nothing'.

The "What about privacy?" section at
<https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/01/web-push-arrives-in-firefox-44/> has
"Firefox only connects to the Push Service if you have an active Web
Push subscription." So I think you only need to set dom.push.enabled
to 'false' if you want to make extra sure you never accidentally
subscribe to any site's pushes.

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Jan 27, 2016, 10:23:53 AM1/27/16
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PietB <opt...@opt-in.invalid> wrote:

> Checking the 'Do not disturb me' box indeed is only effective for the
> current session. After restarting FF you have to check it again.
> But I haven't tried it with any site allowed. Which isn't easy to test
> anyway, since you can't just add a site to the whitelist, but you have
> to wait till you hit upon a site wanting to push.

If you want to play around with it,
<https://serviceworke.rs/push-rich_demo.html> seems to have demo to
which you can subscribe, with some more demos accessible via the menu
on the left. (I still don't have Fx 44, so I haven't been able to play
with it.)

Good Guy

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Jan 27, 2016, 6:29:46 PM1/27/16
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On 27/01/2016 00:51, B00ze wrote:
Good day.

Anybody know how to disable Web Push completely in new FF44? I.E. Prevent FF from connecting to the Mozilla push server...?

Best Regards,


Not sure if this is what you want but I have blocked FF from checking for updates and therefore, I decide whether or not to update it at my own convinience.  See this picture:

Block=Updates

B00ze

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Jan 27, 2016, 8:09:44 PM1/27/16
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Thank you all, I've added dom.push.enabled to user.js; but marked
PietB's replies with a star so I keep them, just in case I need to
invalidate the server name later on. I just don't use my browser in such
a way that I want pushed notifications; when I want to follow things I
subscribe to the RSS feed in Thunderbird.

Best Regards,

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VanguardLH

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Jan 30, 2016, 8:31:17 PM1/30/16
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B00ze wrote on 2016/01/26:

> Anybody know how to disable Web Push completely in new FF44? I.E.
> Prevent FF from connecting to the Mozilla push server...?

This article mentions a different setting than others noted noted, so
far, in this thread:

http://techdows.com/2015/12/disable-firefox-push-notifications.html

In their example of getting webmail notices (of new e-mails), I don't
use webmail but instead use a local e-mail client. However, my aunt
uses webmail all the time so her getting notices of new e-mails would be
handy rather than having to remember to periodically do a manual check.

Since this is a user-permitted-only list, a site might have a link for
you to enable push notices from them but you would first have to click
on that link AND you would have to validate the addition of their entry
in a prompt by Firefox before they got into the Allow list. So it seems
that if you can manage not to click everywhere in a web page to
"accidentally" request a push notice then leaving this enabled should
not be a problem. You get to decide who can push notices and you don't
get popup alerts from Firefox unless you clicked the link to ask for
notifications.

Seems if you don't click there then this is a nebulous feature.
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