I accidently deleted my saved passwords

[huskerfan4life]

is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

[Tom J]

huskerfan4life wrote:
> is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

Can't help get them back, BUT can tell you why I'll never have that problem.

I have an electronic back-up to a back-up hard drive, a back-up to a floppy
and a stack of 3X5 index cards with each 1 on a separate card along with all
information about that password/link. Guess why I have more than 1 back-up??
I was where you are now years ago. It'll never happen to me again!!

Tom J

[WLS (CompTIA A+ Certified - Retired)]

huskerfan4life wrote:
> is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

Restore your backed up profile.

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[Vic Moz Garcia]

On 11/4/2011 20:48, huskerfan4life wrote:
> is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

Yup, re-enter then from your hardcopy backup.

You did write then on paper, didn't you ????

[JohnQPublic]

"huskerfan4life" <jzhusker...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

Don't know if it will work, but if you're running Windows, you might try a
System Restore to a point when you still had the passwords.
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[Jay Garcia]

On 04.11.2011 19:48, huskerfan4life wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

Google for an undelete application. At one time I used FreeUnDelete and
it worked quite well.

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[gla...@linuxuser.iam]

On 11/05/2011 04:19 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
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> Google for an undelete application. At one time I used FreeUnDelete and
> it worked quite well.

positive thinking is great.

tho i do believe that you should have mentioned chances are slim to none
if he has done much accessing of drive storage.


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[Ron Hunter]

Getting back deleted passwords. Unless you have done a backup of your
passwords, or have synced them with another machine, you will have to
reset them on each website. Unfortunately, some sites only let you
change your password if you know the old one. Good luck.

[Ken Springer]

On 11/4/11 6:48 PM, huskerfan4life wrote:
> is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

By now, probably not.

But it might have been possible right after you deleted the list. And
then, it would depend on how TB and your OS handled that situation at
that point in time.

I'm talking about file recovery software. I'm sure there are a bunch
that do a good job. For Windows, two that I know of are Recuva from
Piriform, and Handy Recovery from somewhere.

I've never used Recuva, but when I put free software on an old computer,
I install this. I do not know how well it works.

Handy Recover I own, and it worked very well the few times I used it.

Back in the days before Windows 95, Norton Utilities included a program
that let you manually move through the hard drive to locate the next
sector of a deleted file and then rebuild that file. I once used this
method on a file I'd created on an old Atari 800. I probably had over
10 hours of typing in creating it in a word processor. But two hours of
working with the program had the entire file back except for the first
three paragraphs. The program was called DiskKey, still have the
computer and the program. :-)

Doing this requires you drop whatever you are doing on the computer and
recover that file. You need to get the file recovered from the hard
drive before the system overwrites the data.

That was one of my first lessons in knowing how the innards work for
your computer.

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Thunderbird 7.0.1
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[Greywolf]

On 05/11/2011 7:59 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
[...]
> [Using a file recovery program] requires you drop whatever you are doing on the computer and

> recover that file. You need to get the file recovered from the hard
> drive before the system overwrites the data.
>
> That was one of my first lessons in knowing how the innards work for
> your computer.
>

I have used Easeus data recovery software successfully to restore
overwritten files, and even deleted partitions. It works because traces
of previous files are found on the right and left edges of the freshly
written track (see "palimpsest" ;-)). It's so good it found bits and
pieces of files/partitions that had been overwritten at least three
times. It takes a _long_ time to do this, as it examines every
millimetre of the disk. Costs, too, but in my case it was worth it: I
recovered about 6GB of photos.

HTH
Wolf K.

[Ken Springer]

I didn't go look, but does EaseUS have a free version? I use EaseUS
Partition Master for basic partitioning.

[Ron Hunter]

If data has been overwritten, completely, then only a professional data
recovery company can recover any of your data. If the data is so
important that you are willing to send a disk to such a place, then you
should have had backups (more than one). For practical purposes, if you
have overwritten any of the file, you will lose data. Sometimes
recovering part of the file is very valuable, and worth the trouble of
running something like Recuva. That said, I have never been able to
recover even one file with any of several recovery programs I have tried.
Just not luck, I guess
Moral Make a backup, or several.

[Greywolf]

On 05/11/2011 3:17 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 11/5/11 6:39 AM, Greywolf wrote:

[...]

>> I have used Easeus data recovery software successfully to restore
>> overwritten files, and even deleted partitions. It works because traces
>> of previous files are found on the right and left edges of the freshly
>> written track (see "palimpsest" ;-)). It's so good it found bits and
>> pieces of files/partitions that had been overwritten at least three
>> times. It takes a _long_ time to do this, as it examines every
>> millimetre of the disk. Costs, too, but in my case it was worth it: I
>> recovered about 6GB of photos.
>
> I didn't go look, but does EaseUS have a free version? I use EaseUS
> Partition Master for basic partitioning.
>
>

Yes, but it's limited to 1GB. Windows only, handles NTFS, FAT12/16/32,
and EXT2/3 file systems.

Wolf K.

[Greywolf]

Well, the image-data I recovered was complete, even though it had been
overwritten, and the disk re-partitioned.

Wolf K.

[Fox on the run]

I seriously doubt it was able to recover deleted, overwritten data.
Actually I am confident that it did not. No $69 program would succeed
in doing what programs costing thousands are incapable of doing.
Check any data recover/computer forensic site and you'll find the same
thing, in theory with the right equipment (very expensive) it "may" be
possible. In practice it's like Big Foot, people claim to have seen
it done but proof is elusive. A format & re-install overwrites parts
of the disk, but your data was still there in the later parts of the
disk not yet overwritten hence why it was recovered.

JB

[Fox on the run]

See my earlier post. Re-partitioning a disk does not cause it to be
overwritten.

JB

[Fox on the run]

On Nov 4, 10:48 pm, huskerfan4life <jzhuskerfan4l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is there anyway to get them back? if so can you please let me know how

Not without a backup. Firefox stores them in a sqlite file and it's
transactional, so no file is deleted, just a record from within the
database file. FF overwrites the deleted record when it deletes it
(based on how it has implemented sqlite - unless that changed in later
versions).

JB

[Greywolf]

On 05/11/2011 6:33 PM, Fox on the run wrote:
> On Nov 5, 10:39 am, Greywolf<weki...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 05/11/2011 7:59 AM, Ken Springer wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> [Using a file recovery program] requires you drop whatever you are doing on the computer and
>>> recover that file. You need to get the file recovered from the hard
>>> drive before the system overwrites the data.
>>
>>> That was one of my first lessons in knowing how the innards work for
>>> your computer.
>>
>> I have used Easeus data recovery software successfully to restore
>> overwritten files, and even deleted partitions. It works because traces
>> of previous files are found on the right and left edges of the freshly
>> written track (see "palimpsest" ;-)). It's so good it found bits and
>> pieces of files/partitions that had been overwritten at least three
>> times. It takes a _long_ time to do this, as it examines every
>> millimetre of the disk. Costs, too, but in my case it was worth it: I
>> recovered about 6GB of photos.
>>
>> HTH
>> Wolf K.
>
> I seriously doubt it was able to recover deleted, overwritten data.
> Actually I am confident that it did not. No $69 program would succeed
> in doing what programs costing thousands are incapable of doing.

Erm, as I understand it, to ensure that overwritten data cannot be
recovered requires multiple writes. Once is not enough. (Hey, that would
make a good title for a book or movie, no?)

> Check any data recover/computer forensic site and you'll find the same
> thing, in theory with the right equipment (very expensive) it "may" be
> possible. In practice it's like Big Foot, people claim to have seen
> it done but proof is elusive. A format & re-install overwrites parts
> of the disk, but your data was still there in the later parts of the
> disk not yet overwritten hence why it was recovered.
>
> JB

One of disks in question had been repartionend three times. It found all
three sets of partitions. It found some data that was on the first
partition, and most of data that was on the second partition, and all
the data that had been deleted on the most recent partition. It took all
day (over 12 hours) to examine two disks (totalling 320GB) and create a
database of usable data, so I think it is more than an undelete program.
OTOH, I agree that was able to do so because, as you say, the data was
stored on parts of the disk that not been overwritten, or overwritten
only once or twice.

Have good one,
Wolf K.

[Ron Hunter]

Data overwritten, once, or not, can't be recovered by ordinary file
recovery programs. This takes specialized equipment, and professionals
with special technology, and it is NOT cheap. Files that are merely
deleted are usually recoverable IF data hasn't been written to those
sectors.

[Fox on the run]

On Nov 5, 8:10 pm, Greywolf <weki...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 05/11/2011 6:33 PM, Fox on the run wrote:

> > I seriously doubt it was able to recoverdeleted, overwritten data.

> > Actually I am confident that it did not.  No $69 program would succeed
> > in doing what programs costing thousands are incapable of doing.
>
> Erm, as I understand it, to ensure that overwritten data cannot be
> recovered requires multiple writes. Once is not enough. (Hey, that would
> make a good title for a book or movie, no?)
>

Take my word for it, one time overwrite is sufficient. If you don't
want to take my word for it, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutmann_method,
specifically "Companies specializing in recovery of damaged media
(e.g., media damaged by fire, water or otherwise) cannot recover
completely overwritten files. No private data recovery company
currently claims that it can reconstruct completely overwritten
data.", or check out http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/impossible-recover-data-overwritten-hard-drive-technology-explained/,
specifically

"What Happens When Data Is Overwritten?

When data is overwritten, the magnetic domains on the HDD are re-
magnetized. This is an irreversible process that physically removes
information previously stored in this location. While some residual
physical traces of the changes (or none changes) in magnetization
potentially remain, which may theoretically allow a partial restore,
this would require the use of a magnetic force microscope or similar
technologies, none of which have been shown to recover data
successfully so far [although you never know what's going on in secret
government intelligence labs]. So in essence, there is no software or
other technical way known to the public that can restore overwritten
data."

One company claimed to be able to do this and they were going to demo
it at a big conference. From what I read, when the conference came
around they backed down and explained that they had recovered a
minuscule amount of overwritten data off a very large drive. It was
all exaggerated claims on their part.

> > Check any data recover/computer forensic site and you'll find the same
> > thing, in theory with the right equipment (very expensive) it "may" be
> > possible.  In practice it's like Big Foot, people claim to have seen
> > it done but proof is elusive.  A format &  re-install overwrites parts
> > of the disk, but your data was still there in the later parts of the
> > disk not yet overwritten hence why it was recovered.
>
> > JB
>
> One of disks in question had been repartionend three times. It found all
> three sets of partitions. It found some data that was on the first
> partition, and most of data that was on the second partition, and all

> the data that had beendeletedon the most recent partition. It took all

> day (over 12 hours) to examine two disks (totalling 320GB) and create a
> database of usable data, so I think it is more than an undelete program.
> OTOH, I agree that was able to do so because, as you say, the data was
> stored on parts of the disk that not been overwritten, or overwritten
> only once or twice.
>
> Have good one,
> Wolf K.

It was stored on parts of the disk that had not been overwritten. Had
it been overwritten even just once, you would never have recovered it
with any tools you can get off the Internet, whether the free ones or
the big boys like EnCase, FTK, ProDiscover, or XWays Forensics (maybe
if you had friends working for a government agency with access to
extremely sophisticated equipment there is a every so slight chance
that bits of your overwritten data - even one time overwrite - might
have been recovered).

Crawling every bit of info on a 320 gig drive and processing that data
to see if it's a partition entry, Master File Table Entry, folder
structure, fragment of data, etc takes a long time. It may very well
do more than the straight forward undelete which simply looks for
headers/footers in contiguous sectors on a drive and carves out the
data. But it's DEFINITELY NOT recovering any overwritten data,
whether overwritten once or more.

JB