Throbber
Robert Reedy
installed. Works on Thunderbird
Nir
> Can't get throbber to work in FF 2.01. I have the throbber extension
> installed. Works on Thunderbird
what is the exact problem at your side?
David McRitchie
This one works fine for me, don't know if it's the same,
I think it is different, only see Firefox identified. Actually
the taking away in Firefox forced an improvement.
Throbber Button, by Racer
up to four url's can be supplied to it.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2821/
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Chris Ilias
> Can't get throbber to work in FF 2.01. I have the throbber extension
> installed. Works on Thunderbird
In Firefox, go to Tools-->Add-ons.
Is the throbber extension listed under Extensions? Perhaps you installed
in Thunderbird, by mistake. (The throbber extension is not needed in
Thunderbird 1.5.0.9)
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Robert Reedy
David McRitchie
Did you assign all four possibilities to it
via Tools, addons, click of Throbber Button Extension
choose Options.
Primary and Alternate for left click and Alt+left
Primary and Alternate for right-click and Alt+right
and with all three buttons set to default.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2821/
krONik
7:24 AM perpend:
> Actually the taking away in Firefox forced an improvement.
Why did the throbber get taken away in the first place? Speculation is
just as welcome as fact.
> Throbber Button, by Racer up to four url's can be supplied to it.
> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2821/
Pardon my ignorance, but, doesn't having to install addons to make the
throbber work again make Firefox more bloated? FF's/TB's sleekness is
one of the main motivators for changing from M$.
Would it have been better to just leave the functionality in, rather
than relying on an addon because people missed the functionality?
Wouldn't it be better to have essentially the same basic functionality
across the Mozilla product range? Naturally, I don't mean FF should read
email nor TB to surf the net. I mean, the inconsistency in the chrome
(hope this is the right term) TB and FF where the throbber works on one
and not the other.
This might "feel" a bit strange to those shunning M$ and starting to
embrace the excellent alternative offerings from Mozilla.
NB// This is NOT a criticism of either Mozilla or the addon. I am just
curious about the communities opinion thats all.
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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T
don't use or notice something because they don't use it or don't pay
attention to it do ".... so let's see I don't use/need this feature and
it uses 500 bytes of code; and since I don't see a need for it let's
take it out".
I used the throbber to indicate whether SM/FF/TB was actually doing
something. I also liked the fact if I wanted to go to Mozilla, all I had
to do was click the throbber.
A similar thing happened with "Grippes" that little feature between
vertical or horizontal windows that allow you to click on a region that
had a textured look that someone called grippes. clicking this region
would expand or collapse a window.
Developers decided to save 500 bytes to 1kb of code yanking it out of
Thunderbird altogether. and it been badly mangled but not completely
taken out of SeaMonkey. Now we have to depend on an extension to put the
functionality back that should not have been removed to begin with.
Grippes with the extension works exactly as it used to down to the
enlarged dimple in the middle thats now missing in SM.
Software should be designed with the end users in mind. Not how a gaggle
of 100 or less developers envision what they the developers want.
I have yet to see a developer of software even Mozilla Contact me with a
list of features I would love to see or retain. And if they were to
start and I replied; the people on the other end would say "that
fellow's crazy , he's full of Horsesxxt! So it would not make a dimes
bit of difference anyway.
Mozilla has an added advantage in that they don't sell products Open
Source Community and don't have a Board of Directors to answer to. So
they can develop with impunity.
With Software from For profit out fits They with a b.o.d and have to
develop to what they (the b.o.d) think will sell, so Customers have no
say so there either. So we end up using software that we like That
doesn't necessarily have all the features we desire, nor works exactly
like we want. We have to settle.
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krONik
3/02/2007 12:06 PM perpend:
> /*snip stuff*/
>
> I used the throbber to indicate whether SM/FF/TB was actually doing
> something. I also liked the fact if I wanted to go to Mozilla, all I had
> to do was click the throbber.
Me too! Throbber was a visual indicator that things were moving right
along. And when you are on flaky dialup like mine, half the time I'm
wondering whether anything is happening at all!
In my humble opinion, I think throbber should be reinstated again,
rather than relying on an add-on.
> A similar thing happened with "Grippes" that little feature between
> vertical or horizontal windows that allow you to click on a region that
> had a textured look that someone called grippes. clicking this region
> would expand or collapse a window.
Ok. I have to admit I have never noticed that!
> /*snip more stuff*/
>
> Software should be designed with the end users in mind. Not how a gaggle
> of 100 or less developers envision what they the developers want.
Agreed. But the problem is, we all use the same software differently. I
am sure you would agree that its highly unlikely that your browser and
mine are setup the same, thanks to the plethora and diversity of
settings of add-ons once installed.
It is hard to satisfy everyone's needs I guess.
Chris Ilias
> Me too! Throbber was a visual indicator that things were moving right
> along. And when you are on flaky dialup like mine, half the time I'm
> wondering whether anything is happening at all!
Just so there's no confusion here, the throbber was *not* removed. Only
the link was.
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T
> On 02/02/2007 9:57 PM, _krONik_ spoke thusly:
>> Me too! Throbber was a visual indicator that things were moving right
>> along. And when you are on flaky dialup like mine, half the time I'm
>> wondering whether anything is happening at all!
>
> Just so there's no confusion here, the throbber was *not* removed. Only
> the link was.
Desktop Machine 2.0.0.1.
There is no Throbber. To me and the other fellow posting is The "icon of
FireFox" up in the top left corner that has some movement. Like the one
in SeaMonkey at present. is the Throbber.
There is a little item I call a winder looks like a partial clock dial.
It very pale gray and almost blends into the Background even when it moves.
Brian Heinrich
> Chris Ilias wrote:
>> On 02/02/2007 9:57 PM, _krONik_ spoke thusly:
>>> Me too! Throbber was a visual indicator that things were moving right
>>> along. And when you are on flaky dialup like mine, half the time I'm
>>> wondering whether anything is happening at all!
>>
>> Just so there's no confusion here, the throbber was *not* removed.
>> Only the link was.
> Chris You need to actually use FireFox. I just opened my copy on my
> Desktop Machine 2.0.0.1.
>
> There is no Throbber. To me and the other fellow posting is The "icon of
> FireFox" up in the top left corner that has some movement. Like the one
> in SeaMonkey at present. is the Throbber.
>
> There is a little item I call a winder looks like a partial clock dial.
> It very pale gray and almost blends into the Background even when it moves.
Umm . . . that /is/ the throbber. :-P
/b.
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--Stephen M. Graham
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> On 02/02/2007 9:57 PM, _krONik_ spoke thusly:
>> Me too! Throbber was a visual indicator that things were moving right
>> along. And when you are on flaky dialup like mine, half the time I'm
>> wondering whether anything is happening at all!
>
> Just so there's no confusion here, the throbber was *not* removed. Only
> the link was.
I thought you said that it's an "activity monitor", not a "throbber" ...
o well.
--
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UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
krONik
> Chris Ilias wrote:
>> On 02/02/2007 9:57 PM, _krONik_ spoke thusly:
>>> Me too! Throbber was a visual indicator that things were moving right
>>> along. And when you are on flaky dialup like mine, half the time I'm
>>> wondering whether anything is happening at all!
>>
>> Just so there's no confusion here, the throbber was *not* removed.
>> Only the link was.
Yes, you're right Chris. My apologies for any confusion. It still
indicated that data was transferring, but, it did not give me the addons
page like it used to.
> Chris You need to actually use FireFox. I just opened my copy on my
> Desktop Machine 2.0.0.1.
>
> There is no Throbber. To me and the other fellow posting is The "icon of
> FireFox" up in the top left corner that has some movement. Like the one
> in SeaMonkey at present. is the Throbber.
>
> There is a little item I call a winder looks like a partial clock dial.
> It very pale gray and almost blends into the Background even when it moves.
I've always had the throbber but it had just lost its functionality of
loading a webpage.
I have just installed TB2.0b2 and its throbber too has now lost its
functionality. I will probably just install that addon to TB2.0b2 as well.
krONik
perpend:
> I have just installed TB2.0b2 and its throbber too has now lost its
> functionality. I will probably just install that addon to TB2.0b2 as well.
There goes that great idea. Throbber Button is not compatible with TB!
Chris Ilias
> Chris You need to actually use FireFox. I just opened my copy on my
> Desktop Machine 2.0.0.1.
>
> There is no Throbber. To me and the other fellow posting is The "icon of
> FireFox" up in the top left corner that has some movement. Like the one
> in SeaMonkey at present. is the Throbber.
>
> There is a little item I call a winder looks like a partial clock dial.
> It very pale gray and almost blends into the Background even when it moves.
That winder /is/ the throbber. If you don't know what the throbber is,
what were you complaining about, when you heard the throbber link was
removed?
Anywise, read <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber>. "A throbber is a
graphic usually found in the top-right corner of the graphical user
interface of a computer program (especially a web browser) that animates
to show the user that the program is performing an action (such as
downloading a web page)."
Then read the section called "Spinning wheel."
And yes, I do actually use Firefox. :-)
I also thinking making the throbber stick out more when active, is a
good idea.
Chris Ilias
> I thought you said that it's an "activity monitor", not a "throbber" ...
The term I used was "activity indicator." Yes, "it" is an activity
monitor. I never said "it" is not a throbber. "It" is /the/ throbber.
Thus the throbber is an activity monitor.
<http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/86f420df0260e6b3>
"In Firefox, the throbber is not a Firefox logo; it's just an
activity indicator."
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> On 03/02/2007 10:27 PM, _Jay Garcia_ spoke thusly:
>> I thought you said that it's an "activity monitor", not a "throbber" ...
>
> The term I used was "activity indicator." Yes, "it" is an activity
> monitor. I never said "it" is not a throbber. "It" is /the/ throbber.
> Thus the throbber is an activity monitor.
> <http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/86f420df0260e6b3>
> "In Firefox, the throbber is not a Firefox logo; it's just an
> activity indicator."
Ok, understood, but I didn't say that you said it wasn't a throbber.
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T
What I call a Throbber, is the icon on the application (much like the
icon shown in the about FF/SM/TB; that has some type of movement when
application is doing something. Example on SM the icon appears to be
blowing water bubbles when doing something.
Al Bert
> On 02/02/2007 9:57 PM, _krONik_ spoke thusly:
>> Me too! Throbber was a visual indicator that things were moving right
>> along. And when you are on flaky dialup like mine, half the time I'm
>> wondering whether anything is happening at all!
>
> Just so there's no confusion here, the throbber was *not* removed. Only
> the link was.
I believe that you can re-establish the link with the "MR Tech Local
Install" extension: Miscellaneous> Throbber. You can change the link to
site you want. In any case that is how mine works: Firefox 2.0.0.1 with
MR Tech Local Install 5.3.2.3.
Ron Hunter
> On 03/02/2007 10:27 PM, _Jay Garcia_ spoke thusly:
>> I thought you said that it's an "activity monitor", not a "throbber" ...
>
> The term I used was "activity indicator." Yes, "it" is an activity
> monitor. I never said "it" is not a throbber. "It" is /the/ throbber.
> Thus the throbber is an activity monitor.
> <http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/86f420df0260e6b3>
>
> "In Firefox, the throbber is not a Firefox logo; it's just an
> activity indicator."
Whatever you call it, it is theme related in most cases.
--
Ron Hunter rphu...@charter.net
Tony Mechelynck
Well, that Sm icon with bubbles and Fx's winding set of 8 dots are the same
widget -- except for the difference in themes. The difference is purely
cosmetic. It's conceivable that one of the many themes available for Firefox
has a revolving Firefox icon as a throbber, and even if there is no such theme
(yet), I'm convinced that one could be designed (whether it could be
_marketed_ may depend on the Mozilla Foundation & Corporation's standing on
trademark use); the Firefox theme I use has, at the right end of the menubar,
a small "Mozilla m" icon which changes appearance when busy loading a page. So
regardless of how you call it, that's (by functionality) the throbber.
Best regards,
Tony.
Tony Mechelynck
Yes; and that extension (which has a lot more functionality than just
reestablishing the throbber link) is compatible with (among others) both Fx2
and Tb2. I have it installed, and when I click that 8-dot widget in Tb2's
default theme, Firefox opens http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/. When I
click Firefox's throbber it leads me to whatever page I have selected for it
in Firefox: I just changed it to my home page
http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/.
Best regards,
Tony.
Jay Garcia
--- Original Message ---
> What I call a Throbber, is the icon on the application (much like the
> icon shown in the about FF/SM/TB; that has some type of movement when
> application is doing something. Example on SM the icon appears to be
> blowing water bubbles when doing something.
Mine moves but just doesn't have a link any longer but it's still a
throbber by definition.
krONik
10:05 AM perpend:
> It's conceivable that one of the many themes available
> for Firefox has a revolving Firefox icon as a throbber, and even if
> there is no such theme (yet), I'm convinced that one could be designed
> (whether it could be _marketed_ may depend on the Mozilla Foundation &
> Corporation's standing on trademark use);
Like Spinfox?
http://burntelectrons.org/moz/spinfox/
> So regardless of how you call it,
> that's (by functionality) the throbber.
Agreed.
Tony Mechelynck
> When observing _Tony Mechelynck's_ postulating to Cyberia, on 5/02/2007
> 10:05 AM perpend:
>
>> It's conceivable that one of the many themes available for Firefox has
>> a revolving Firefox icon as a throbber, and even if there is no such
>> theme (yet), I'm convinced that one could be designed (whether it
>> could be _marketed_ may depend on the Mozilla Foundation &
>> Corporation's standing on trademark use);
>
> Like Spinfox?
> http://burntelectrons.org/moz/spinfox/
Looks like it, except this is an "extension" and I was expecting a "theme".
>
>> So regardless of how you call it, that's (by functionality) the throbber.
>
> Agreed.
>
Best regards,
Tony.
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generate the following:? :
> On 04.02.2007 09:39, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
>
>> What I call a Throbber, is the icon on the application (much like the
>> icon shown in the about FF/SM/TB; that has some type of movement when
>> application is doing something. Example on SM the icon appears to be
>> blowing water bubbles when doing something.
>>
>
> Mine moves but just doesn't have a link any longer but it's still a
> throbber by definition.
>
>
:-( :-( :-(
reg
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T
> krONik wrote:
>> When observing _Tony Mechelynck's_ postulating to Cyberia, on
>> 5/02/2007 10:05 AM perpend:
>>
>>> It's conceivable that one of the many themes available for Firefox
>>> has a revolving Firefox icon as a throbber, and even if there is no
>>> such theme (yet), I'm convinced that one could be designed (whether
>>> it could be _marketed_ may depend on the Mozilla Foundation &
>>> Corporation's standing on trademark use);
>>
>> Like Spinfox?
>> http://burntelectrons.org/moz/spinfox/
>
> Looks like it, except this is an "extension" and I was expecting a "theme".
>
>>
>>> So regardless of how you call it, that's (by functionality) the
>>> throbber.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.
Now That's what I call a throbber. Not that little windy thingey that's
so pale its difficult to see.
Anyway I tried to install it and firefox blocked it.
Tony Mechelynck
> Now That's what I call a throbber. Not that little windy thingey that's
> so pale its difficult to see.
>
> Anyway I tried to install it and firefox blocked it.
>
Here too, but with a dark banner just below the tab bar and an "Options"
button on it. Clicking on it allowed me to add the site to the whitelist of
"sites allowed to install software". Then re-clicking the link to the XPI
(followed by a restart of Fx) did the trick. (Firefox blocks all sites except
addons.mozilla.org the first time it encounters them, and until manually
unlocked.)
Now when Fx is loading a page I have a slowly rotating Fox where that "windy
thingey" used to be -- and no bigger. I'm keeping it -- for the time being.
Best regards,
Tony.
--
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is always polite to traffic cops.
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T
> Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
> [...]
>> Now That's what I call a throbber. Not that little windy thingey
>> that's so pale its difficult to see.
>>
>> Anyway I tried to install it and firefox blocked it.
>>
>
> Here too, but with a dark banner just below the tab bar and an "Options"
> button on it. Clicking on it allowed me to add the site to the whitelist
> of "sites allowed to install software". Then re-clicking the link to the
> XPI (followed by a restart of Fx) did the trick. (Firefox blocks all
> sites except addons.mozilla.org the first time it encounters them, and
> until manually unlocked.)
>
> Now when Fx is loading a page I have a slowly rotating Fox where that
> "windy thingey" used to be -- and no bigger. I'm keeping it -- for the
> time being.
>
> Best regards,
> Tony.
Yep that's a lot better.
krONik
6/02/2007 4:43 AM perpend:
> Now That's what I call a throbber. Not that little windy thingey that's
> so pale its difficult to see.
Yes. Now we just need one for Tb! Fx is fantastic ... you can get almost
any functionality as someone talented will have nearly always made an
extension for it.
krONik
3:40 PM perpend:
> Now when Fx is loading a page I have a slowly rotating Fox where that
> "windy thingey" used to be -- and no bigger. I'm keeping it -- for the
> time being.
It doesn't take any extra space and yes it is a bit more eye-candy than
the original. Hopefully they can make one for Tb as well.
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T
> When observing _Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T's_ postulating to Cyberia, on
> 6/02/2007 4:43 AM perpend:
>
>> Now That's what I call a throbber. Not that little windy thingey
>> that's so pale its difficult to see.
>
> Yes. Now we just need one for Tb! Fx is fantastic ... you can get almost
> any functionality as someone talented will have nearly always made an
> extension for it.
>
Then for action showing whether its working the beak of the bird working
up and down or beak open and tongue and throat working as if its singing.
Tony Mechelynck
>> When observing _Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T's_ postulating to Cyberia, on
>> 6/02/2007 4:43 AM perpend:
>>
>>> Now That's what I call a throbber. Not that little windy thingey
>>> that's so pale its difficult to see.
>>
>> Yes. Now we just need one for Tb! Fx is fantastic ... you can get
>> almost any functionality as someone talented will have nearly always
>> made an extension for it.
>>
> I propose they use the Thunderbird as show in the about Thunderbird.
> Then for action showing whether its working the beak of the bird working
> up and down or beak open and tongue and throat working as if its singing.
>
The one in Help => About Thunderbird is cropped at top and right. Now if you
could use the one in the Thunderbird desktop icon...
On my (Linux) system there is a 16px wide Thunderbird icon:
/usr/local/thunderbird/icons/mozicon16.xpm (and also a 48px one) -- I don't
know if Windows installations include a similar one other than as part of the
executable.
Best regards,
Tony.
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