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Sep 29, 2006, 9:19:37 PM9/29/06
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The past few months my Firefox 1.5.0.7 just isn't quite the same. Seems to
not want to do java (everything looks like its on) and won't run some
videos. Have up to date Flash and all movie running software. The only thing
that has happened was an automatic security update about a month ago. Only
update I ever had with FF. IE is not as badly affected but has a glitch or
two.

J

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Nir

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Sep 29, 2006, 9:28:34 PM9/29/06
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news.hal-pc.org wrote:
> The past few months my Firefox 1.5.0.7 just isn't quite the same. Seems to
> not want to do java (everything looks like its on) and won't run some
> videos. Have up to date Flash and all movie running software. The only thing
> that has happened was an automatic security update about a month ago. Only
> update I ever had with FF. IE is not as badly affected but has a glitch or
> two.
>
> J
>

Type 'about:plugins' in location bar. Press enter.
check whether java plugins , windows media player plugins and
flash plugins are listed or not.

one thing you may also check ,
Start Firefox in safe mode ( To start Firefox in safe mode : Start
> Programs > Firefox[safe mode] )
goto this site : http://kb.mozillazine.org/Testing_plugins
and test plugins .

Leonidas Jones

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Sep 29, 2006, 9:32:43 PM9/29/06
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news.hal-pc.org wrote:
> The past few months my Firefox 1.5.0.7 just isn't quite the same. Seems to
> not want to do java (everything looks like its on) and won't run some
> videos. Have up to date Flash and all movie running software. The only thing
> that has happened was an automatic security update about a month ago. Only
> update I ever had with FF. IE is not as badly affected but has a glitch or
> two.
>
> J
>

Post back with some specific examples of sigtes that do not work, and we
will test.

Lee

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NoPayne

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Oct 1, 2006, 9:32:56 AM10/1/06
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news.hal-pc.org wrote:

> The past few months my Firefox 1.5.0.7 just isn't quite the same.

Yeh, I hate it when that happens. Firefox must have a morphing gene
programmed into it that makes it misbehave after a few weeks.

Duh!

J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 2, 2006, 5:13:41 PM10/2/06
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I just went to my IRA page and it says javascript is disabled. ??? It is
enabled in 1.5.0.7.
It is enabled in Zone Alarm. Windows firewall is off. What else can it be.
Where can it be?
Last night I downloaded JRE Jave Runtime Enviroment 5.0.

J

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Leonidas Jones

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Oct 2, 2006, 7:20:43 PM10/2/06
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Please be so kind as to bottom post in these groups, that is, post your
reply below the quoted material, as I am doing here. This is the group
preference. See the posting Etiquette, as linked in my sig, for more
information. Thank you for your consideration.

What IRA page? Can you give a specific link to a page that is not
working, and tell us what you did that caused the error. We need to be
able to see for ourselves, in order to troubleshoot.

In your OP, you mentioned problems with java, now you are talking about
javascript. Other then the first four letters, the two have nothing to
do with each other. Installing a new JRE, while fine, will do nothing to
improve javascript problems.

Again, give us a link to a page where you see the problem. It might be
the page, it might be a Firefox problem, it might be your setup. We
just don't know enough to say right now.

Jan Steffen

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Oct 3, 2006, 4:38:04 AM10/3/06
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J. Kolenovsky schrieb:

> I just went to my IRA page

A personal page at the Irish Republican Army? Nowadays you should be
careful with expressing such close bonds to (former?) terrorist movements.

> and it says javascript is disabled. ??? It is
> enabled in 1.5.0.7.

> Last night I downloaded JRE Jave Runtime Enviroment 5.0.

Please beware that Java (JRE) and JavaScript (EcmaScript) are totally
different and unrelated things.
Please give a URL where the problem exists. There are so many websites
about the IRA, that we can't guess which one you are having problems with.

HTH, Jan

J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 3, 2006, 10:47:32 AM10/3/06
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"Jan Steffen" <steff...@web.de> wrote in message
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No, I think not.

Individual Retirement Account. Quit being Catholic 34 years. The only
terrorist group I belong to is one that hates invasive, exotic plants and
adores/plants "native" plants.

IRA - wife blew up in propane explosion in ski cabin. Other 2 friends with
her died. She got pretty messed up but after 6 months and a million dollar
hospital bill and no low figure income coming in, its time to tap the IRA
for unreimbursed medical expenses with no 0% penalty. She is just now
starting off on her road to recovery. Came out of coma 07/24/06.

http://www.jacksonholenet.com/news/jackson_hole_news_article.php?ArticleNum=1395
http://www.planetjh.com/nichols_2006_03_29_propane.html
http://www.jacksonholenet.com/news/jackson_hole_news_article.php?ArticleNum=1394

J

J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 3, 2006, 11:09:45 AM10/3/06
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"Leonidas Jones" <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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The sites -
http://www.hauserclinic.com/

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/deliverusfromevil/small.html

http://maps.citysearch.com/location/9844990

You don't need to see my Individual Retirement Acct (IRA).

"In your OP" - I do not know what this means.

"In your OP, you mentioned problems with java, now you are talking about
javascript. Other then the first four letters, the two have nothing to do
with each other. Installing a new JRE, while fine, will do nothing to
improve javascript problems".

Sir, I have NO knowledge about Java anything or any divergent related
topics to it at all. SO, if I said the wrong thing, forebearance goes a long
way. All I CAN say about Java is that it has always worked for me since
early days of Netscape. I try not to use IE but on occasion it is necessary.
Firefox is kool.

And I'm sorry I never had paid any attention to your signature (I wonder how
many times that happens?) Thank u for alerting me 2 bottom posts. Personally
I prefer top posts but then again I'm most times not aligned with the world.

J (1st initial of middle name which I'm not telling nor 1st name either
and its not Jay)

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

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Oct 3, 2006, 2:03:27 PM10/3/06
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Original Post


>
> "In your OP, you mentioned problems with java, now you are talking about
> javascript. Other then the first four letters, the two have nothing to do
> with each other. Installing a new JRE, while fine, will do nothing to
> improve javascript problems".
>
> Sir, I have NO knowledge about Java anything or any divergent related
> topics to it at all. SO, if I said the wrong thing, forebearance goes a long
> way. All I CAN say about Java is that it has always worked for me since
> early days of Netscape. I try not to use IE but on occasion it is necessary.
> Firefox is kool.
>
> And I'm sorry I never had paid any attention to your signature (I wonder how
> many times that happens?) Thank u for alerting me 2 bottom posts. Personally
> I prefer top posts but then again I'm most times not aligned with the world.
>
> J (1st initial of middle name which I'm not telling nor 1st name either
> and its not Jay)

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Oct 3, 2006, 2:09:45 PM10/3/06
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Its Individual retirement Accounts not Irish Republican Army ;-)

While we are throwing around $50.00 Words.

Explain why PC when new require you to locate, download, install by hand
Java.

Yet on the Mac Platform Apple has the foresight to have it included, and
when a new version comes out, has the foresight to offer it as an update
in Software Update as the new version comes out. My Cousin Just bought
a new Computer and went to a site using (IE) and could not go to a site
because Java was not installed.

Leonidas Jones

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Oct 3, 2006, 2:30:22 PM10/3/06
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J. Kolenovsky wrote:
> "Leonidas Jones" <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:JtGdnbYKX-NRA7zY...@mozilla.org...
>> J. Kolenovsky wrote:
/snip/

>>>
>>> "Leonidas Jones" <Cap...@att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ibGdnR3EpdWmVIDY...@mozilla.org...
>>>> news.hal-pc.org wrote:
/snip/

> The sites -
> http://www.hauserclinic.com/
>
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/deliverusfromevil/small.html
>
> http://maps.citysearch.com/location/9844990
>
> You don't need to see my Individual Retirement Acct (IRA).
>
> "In your OP" - I do not know what this means.
>
> "In your OP, you mentioned problems with java, now you are talking about
> javascript. Other then the first four letters, the two have nothing to do
> with each other. Installing a new JRE, while fine, will do nothing to
> improve javascript problems".
>
> Sir, I have NO knowledge about Java anything or any divergent related
> topics to it at all. SO, if I said the wrong thing, forebearance goes a long
> way. All I CAN say about Java is that it has always worked for me since
> early days of Netscape. I try not to use IE but on occasion it is necessary.
> Firefox is kool.
>
> And I'm sorry I never had paid any attention to your signature (I wonder how
> many times that happens?) Thank u for alerting me 2 bottom posts. Personally
> I prefer top posts but then again I'm most times not aligned with the world.
>
> J (1st initial of middle name which I'm not telling nor 1st name either
> and its not Jay)
>

Thanks for making the effort to bottom post, it is appreciated.

The confusion that arises from the unfortunate name similarity between
java and javascript is a bane to support people. We just need to know
what the problem really is, and it would seem to be javascript.

So, as I understand it, when you go to the three links, you get an error
about javascript not being enabled. I visited them with javascript
enabled, and all display without problems.

I disabled javascript and went back to the sites, receiving no errors,
though the map site didn't work properly. Can you describe in greater
detail what happens when you visit these sites, and what you are trying
to do when the problem occurs?

squaredancer

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Oct 3, 2006, 5:26:20 PM10/3/06
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On 03.10.2006 16:47, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused J. Kolenovsky
to generate the following:? :

sorry to read about your wife's accident... hope she recovers as well as
can be expected!

To your problems, I think you said that the websites told you that
JavaScript was disabled on your browser?? If so, then open in the main
Firefox menu line
Tools>>Options>>Content
and tick the [ ] Enable JavaScript box

restart Firefox and then try one of those URLs, to see if they now
display properly!

reg

J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:01:49 PM10/3/06
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"Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T" <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote in message
news:qb6dnVwGrPRyOL_Y...@mozilla.org...


Phillip M. Jones - It's not "fixed".

J


J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:22:00 PM10/3/06
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"Leonidas Jones" <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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What happens at the sites -

http://www.hauserclinic.com/ - key the mosue. page comes up blank and
brhttp://www.lionsgate.com/owser says done. Nurse at clinic claims it works
fine.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/deliverusfromevil/small.html - key
mouse and a page comes up but hardly any data on it.. Clicked a link on it -
www.deliverusfromevilthemovie.com and it comes up with a blank page that
redirects to another blank page and says done. Clicked this link,
http://www.lionsgate.com/ and it is blank page, done.

http://maps.citysearch.com/location/9844990 - click mouse and it goes to a
page that has the outline of a page but no map. Reload does zip (nada)
nothing.

WHAT I was trying to do was "visit" a website with my 'browser".

WHAT is OP? I would like to know. I asked you earlier via e-mail.
Kind sir, here is my request. "In your OP" - I do not know what this means.

Lee, I sent you these links directly to you late Saturday evening. No
response positive ot negative from you.

J


Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:38:57 PM10/3/06
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OP stands for Original Post.

J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:39:13 PM10/3/06
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"Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T" <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote in message
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$50.00 words. My wife blows up in an explosion. Co-pays of $60,000. Do you
have any compassion? I hope this never happens to your wife.

I hope these are not $50.00 words. Besides inflation has bumped up that
ante.

PMJones harked:

"Explain why PC when new require you to locate, download, install by hand
Java."

O-k, here's the skinny.

None of this happened or was requested. "locate, download, install by hand
Java". The pC came with Java and none of this was requested. This just
started happening a short while back. I had been with an older version of FF
(.9 something) and before upgrading to 1.5.0.7 after web research about
feasibility. Since I have short term memory loss, I think I only had these 2
versions. As stated previously, everything worked fine till a short time
ago. BTW, the only FF 1.5.0.7 update I've had was a security update last
month.

I have checked FF and Zone Alarm for any enablement/disablement *Windows FW
off). Any place else I need to look to check buttons and whistles?

What say? Uninstall and go back to an older version? Or is that folly?

J

Leonidas Jones

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:50:42 PM10/3/06
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J. Kolenovsky wrote:
> "Leonidas Jones" <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:VOadndxIy9PcMb_Y...@mozilla.org...
>> J. Kolenovsky wrote:
>>> "Leonidas Jones" <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>> news:JtGdnbYKX-NRA7zY...@mozilla.org...
>>>> J. Kolenovsky wrote:
>> /snip/
>>>>> "Leonidas Jones" <Cap...@att.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ibGdnR3EpdWmVIDY...@mozilla.org...
>>>>>> news.hal-pc.org wrote:
/snip/

>

> What happens at the sites -
>
> http://www.hauserclinic.com/ - key the mosue. page comes up blank and
> brhttp://www.lionsgate.com/owser says done. Nurse at clinic claims it works
> fine.

What do you mean by key the mouse? Your text is a little garbled here.

The hausergate page does display just fine, the nurse is correct. I
didn't spend a lot of time there, but it seemed to work and appear the
same whether javascript was enabled or disabled.

>
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/deliverusfromevil/small.html - key
> mouse and a page comes up but hardly any data on it.. Clicked a link on it -
> www.deliverusfromevilthemovie.com and it comes up with a blank page that
> redirects to another blank page and says done. Clicked this link,
> http://www.lionsgate.com/ and it is blank page, done.

There isn't much on that page, save a Quick Time movie with a trailer,
and a couple of links. That movie does not display if javascript is
disabled.

http://www.lionsgate.com

actually gives

http://www.lionsgate.com/index_flash.php

As the name says, its heavily dependent on Flash, so you might check
that Flash is installed and up to date.


>
> http://maps.citysearch.com/location/9844990 - click mouse and it goes to a
> page that has the outline of a page but no map. Reload does zip (nada)
> nothing.

Works fine from here. If I disable javascript, I can't click on the map
to center or resize it, but it does display.

You might check:

Tools>>Options>>Content

Make sure the Load images is checked, and that For the originating
website only is *unchecked*.


>
> WHAT I was trying to do was "visit" a website with my 'browser".
>
> WHAT is OP? I would like to know. I asked you earlier via e-mail.
> Kind sir, here is my request. "In your OP" - I do not know what this means.
>
> Lee, I sent you these links directly to you late Saturday evening. No
> response positive ot negative from you.
>
> J

I did not reply to your question about OP, because it was answered by
another person, and I didn't want to duplicate another's post.

For the record, OP can mean either Original Poster, in this case you, or
the first post of the thread, where you first presented your problem.

Let me respond inline to your page problems, so scroll back up.

You say you emailed me. I received nothing.

Keep in mind that helpers here, Champions or not, are all volunteers. We
all haver outside responsibilities, so its not uncommon to have to wait
a while. I also visit many help groups and forums, and answer many
questions. I may lose track of one occasionally.

So, two of your problems indicate the possibility of image loading
issues, and of Flash being up to date. As far as the medical page, I
don't see any reason why it should be a problem.

I go back to your Original Post, you said something about some kind of
warning about javascript. What did you mean by that?

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:53:48 PM10/3/06
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J. Kolenovsky wrote:
>
>
>
> What happens at the sites -
>
> http://www.hauserclinic.com/ - key the mosue. page comes up blank and
> brhttp://www.lionsgate.com/owser says done. Nurse at clinic claims it works
> fine.

works fine here I get www.hauserclinic.com no problems\

occurs the same with java and or javascript disabled

>
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/deliverusfromevil/small.html - key
> mouse and a page comes up but hardly any data on it.. Clicked a link on it -
> www.deliverusfromevilthemovie.com and it comes up with a blank page that
> redirects to another blank page and says done. Clicked this link,
> http://www.lionsgate.com/ and it is blank page, done.

I get the QuickTime movie

no movie with javascript disabled

>
> http://maps.citysearch.com/location/9844990 - click mouse and it goes to a
> page that has the outline of a page but no map. Reload does zip (nada)
> nothing.

I get the map.

doesnt matter if java or javascript is disabled

Moz Champion (Dan)

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Oct 3, 2006, 7:55:17 PM10/3/06
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J. Kolenovsky wrote:

> O-k, here's the skinny.
>
> None of this happened or was requested. "locate, download, install by hand
> Java". The pC came with Java and none of this was requested. This just
> started happening a short while back. I had been with an older version of FF
> (.9 something) and before upgrading to 1.5.0.7 after web research about
> feasibility. Since I have short term memory loss, I think I only had these 2
> versions. As stated previously, everything worked fine till a short time
> ago. BTW, the only FF 1.5.0.7 update I've had was a security update last
> month.
>
> I have checked FF and Zone Alarm for any enablement/disablement *Windows FW
> off). Any place else I need to look to check buttons and whistles?
>
> What say? Uninstall and go back to an older version? Or is that folly?
>
> J
>
>
>

As far as I can see this situation and the problems you are having are
not related to java in the least.

J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 4, 2006, 12:31:25 AM10/4/06
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Lee Jones said:
 
What do you mean by key the mouse? Your text is a little garbled here.
 
Key mouse = click mouse


The hausergate page does display just fine, the nurse is correct. I
didn't spend a lot of time there, but it seemed to work and appear the
same whether javascript was enabled or disabled.
 
Yeah, don't spend much there under you are psychiatrically hindered. So what do u do? Bring up a page and click a pull-down menu = enable/disable "javascript"?
 
http://www.lionsgate.com
 
actually gives

 
http://www.lionsgate.com/index_flash.php
 
As the name says, its heavily dependent on Flash, so you might check 
that Flash is installed and up to date.

I wouldn't know. Never got past  http://www.lionsgate.com. I do know my Flash works great. I said that 3 days ago.
 
I did not reply to your question about OP, because it was answered by 
another person, and I didn't want to duplicate another's post.
 
Actually, Phillip M. Jones beat you to it. He was sitting at his workstation.
 
I go back to your Original Post, you said something about some kind of 
warning about javascript.  What did you mean by that?
 
I didn't much attention to it or the page. First time that happened. I'm getting frustrated with this issue and all the back and forth banter. God, I hate tennis. Golf, too.
 
 
So, two of your problems indicate the possibility of image loading 
issues, and of Flash being up to date. As far as the medical page, I 
don't see any reason why it should be a problem.
 
I did uncheck the load images/originating website box and the map came up. None of the others did.
SO, sugestions for resolving the issue? Uninstall  1.5.0.7 or just run multiple versions (in their own directory, of course)?
FF 1.0.6, 1.0.7.  RD 2.0 etc? Or just get 2 or more versions and try them all?
 
I found a webpage that that all the releases.  ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases
 
J
 
 




 
 
 
 
 
 

Leonidas Jones

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Oct 4, 2006, 12:53:50 AM10/4/06
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Actually, I think I'm done here.

I am glad to have at least helped to resolve your image loading problem.

Your posting style, at the least, confuses me, and, at times, seems
vaguely insulting. Perhaps you mean to be humorous, but it does read so.

Cousin Phillip did indeed post before me, but the load times for this
server can be slow, and if I am in the group, I would not see it.

Lets get the time sequence straight, using my time EDT.

On 10/2, at 7:20 PM, I made the post using the acronym OP.

On 10/3, at 11:09 AM, you asked what OP meant. I was working at the
time, teaching, and not at a computer for a while.

On 10/3, at 2:03 PM, Cousin Phillip answered your question about OP.

My next post was on 10/3, at 2:30. Having seen that your question was
answered, I moved on. Now you snip at me for it.

I am accounted by most who know me to be a patient man, but I am mortal,
and do have feelings. If you are going to keep snipping at me, I'm not
going to offer more help.

I am glad to have helped resolve your image loading problems, and I hope
that others can help to solve your others. Good luck in solving your
problems, I wish you all the best.

Lee


J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 4, 2006, 1:24:49 AM10/4/06
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"Leonidas Jones" <leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:V_ydnTHrr6Uso77Y...@mozilla.org...
 
I am glad to have helped resolve your image loading problems, and I hope 
that others can help to solve your others. Good luck in solving your 
problems, I wish you all the best."
 
Lee
 
After the explosion, I need all the best.
 
It was nice having you help me. The image loading was only solved in one of the three examples and 33 1/3% is better than zip.  I did learn about the "load images/from the originating site only" check box. Now if I can find out about the other 66  1/3%  image loading, that would be great. Also,  it seems that I should not have installed JRE 5.0.  For others out there, should I uninstall it?
 
Also, for the others out there, what do you think about the idea of installing different versions of FF in different folders?  Say 2 more versions?

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

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Oct 4, 2006, 1:40:03 PM10/4/06
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Whoa Partner, I wasn't referring to your wifes condition. I was
referring to all these three letter codes that were being thrown around
some even at you expense but not not from myself.

> PMJones harked:
>
> "Explain why PC when new require you to locate, download, install by hand
> Java."
>
> O-k, here's the skinny.
>
> None of this happened or was requested. "locate, download, install by hand
> Java". The pC came with Java and none of this was requested. This just
> started happening a short while back. I had been with an older version of FF
> (.9 something) and before upgrading to 1.5.0.7 after web research about
> feasibility. Since I have short term memory loss, I think I only had these 2
> versions. As stated previously, everything worked fine till a short time
> ago. BTW, the only FF 1.5.0.7 update I've had was a security update last
> month.
>
> I have checked FF and Zone Alarm for any enablement/disablement *Windows FW
> off). Any place else I need to look to check buttons and whistles?
>
> What say? Uninstall and go back to an older version? Or is that folly?
>
> J
>
>
>

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T

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I love watching Golf, tennis not quite as much. But I can't stand
Football or baseball. I not much for watching grass grow like periods of
time in Football or Baseball. with Golf or tennis its always moving
forward. :-)

> So, two of your problems indicate the possibility of image loading
> issues, and of Flash being up to date. As far as the medical page, I
> don't see any reason why it should be a problem.
>

> I did uncheck the load images/originating website box and *_the map came
> up_*. None of the others did.


> SO, sugestions for resolving the issue? Uninstall 1.5.0.7 or just run
> multiple versions (in their own directory, of course)?
> FF 1.0.6, 1.0.7. RD 2.0 etc? Or just get 2 or more versions and try
> them all?

> <ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases>

> I found a webpage that that all the releases.
> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases
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J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 4, 2006, 11:21:41 PM10/4/06
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"Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T" <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote in message
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> J. Kolenovsky wrote:
>> Lee Jones said:
>>

(snip)


>> Actually, Phillip M. Jones beat you to it. He was sitting at his
>> workstation.
>> I go back to your Original Post, you said something about some kind of
>> warning about javascript. What did you mean by that?
>> I didn't much attention to it or the page. First time that happened. I'm
>> getting frustrated with this issue and all the back and forth banter.
>> God, I hate tennis. Golf, too.
>
> I love watching Golf, tennis not quite as much. But I can't stand Football
> or baseball. I not much for watching grass grow like periods of time in
> Football or Baseball. with Golf or tennis its always moving forward. :-)
>
>> So, two of your problems indicate the possibility of image loading
>> issues, and of Flash being up to date. As far as the medical page, I
>> don't see any reason why it should be a problem.
>> I did uncheck the load images/originating website box and *_the map came
>> up_*. None of the others did.
>> SO, sugestions for resolving the issue? Uninstall 1.5.0.7 or just run
>> multiple versions (in their own directory, of course)?
>> FF 1.0.6, 1.0.7. RD 2.0 etc? Or just get 2 or more versions and try them
>> all?
>> <ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases> I found a
>> webpage that that all the releases.
>> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases
>> J

P.M. Jones said:

I love watching Golf, tennis not quite as much. But I can't stand
Football or baseball. I not much for watching grass grow like periods of
time in Football or Baseball. with Golf or tennis its always moving
forward. :-)

J. Kolenovsky chirped:

About the closest I'd get to golf is being the greenskeeper since I'm a
horticulturist. I might consult with Bill Murray on how to control gophers,
though. In my opinion, Besketball is a real mover. I like basketball and
wished I had a "jones" for it.

J

J. Kolenovsky

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Oct 4, 2006, 11:28:13 PM10/4/06
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"Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T" <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote in message

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> J. Kolenovsky wrote:
>> "Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T" <pjo...@kimbanet.com> wrote in message

(snip)


>>> Its Individual retirement Accounts not Irish Republican Army ;-)
>>>
>>> While we are throwing around $50.00 Words.
>>>
>>> Explain why PC when new require you to locate, download, install by hand
>>> Java.
>>>
>>> Yet on the Mac Platform Apple has the foresight to have it included, and
>>> when a new version comes out, has the foresight to offer it as an update
>>> in Software Update as the new version comes out. My Cousin Just bought a
>>> new Computer and went to a site using (IE) and could not go to a site
>>> because Java was not installed.
>>>
>>

>> $50.00 words. My wife blows up in an explosion. Co-pays of $60,000. Do
>> you have any compassion? I hope this never happens to your wife.
>>
>> I hope these are not $50.00 words. Besides inflation has bumped up that
>> ante.
>
> Whoa Partner, I wasn't referring to your wifes condition. I was referring
> to all these three letter codes that were being thrown around some even at
> you expense but not not from myself.
>
>> PMJones harked:
>>
>> "Explain why PC when new require you to locate, download, install by hand
>> Java."
>>
>> O-k, here's the skinny.
>>
>> None of this happened or was requested. "locate, download, install by
>> hand Java". The pC came with Java and none of this was requested. This
>> just started happening a short while back. I had been with an older
>> version of FF (.9 something) and before upgrading to 1.5.0.7 after web
>> research about feasibility. Since I have short term memory loss, I think
>> I only had these 2 versions. As stated previously, everything worked fine
>> till a short time ago. BTW, the only FF 1.5.0.7 update I've had was a
>> security update last month.
>>
>> I have checked FF and Zone Alarm for any enablement/disablement *Windows
>> FW off). Any place else I need to look to check buttons and whistles?
>>
>> What say? Uninstall and go back to an older version? Or is that folly?
>>
>> J


P.M. Jones replied:

Whoa Partner, I wasn't referring to your wifes condition. I was

referring to all these three letter codes that were being thrown around

some even at you expense but not not from myself.

J. Kolenovsky croaked out:

Quess what? Someone stole my horse last night. Talk about putting the brakes
on everything.
Do you think I'm SOL (poop outa luck)?

J

Mumia W. (using mozilla)

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Oct 4, 2006, 11:15:22 PM10/4/06
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On 10/04/2006 12:24 AM, J. Kolenovsky wrote:
> "Leonidas Jones" <leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:V_ydnTHrr6Uso77Y...@mozilla.org...
>
>> I am glad to have helped resolve your image loading problems, and I hope
>> that others can help to solve your others. Good luck in solving your
>> problems, I wish you all the best."
>>
>> Lee
>
> After the explosion, I need all the best.
>
> It was nice having you help me. The image loading was only solved in one of the three examples and 33 1/3% is better than zip. I did learn about the "load images/from the originating site only" check box. Now if I can find out about the other 66 1/3% image loading, that would be great. Also, it seems that I should not have installed JRE 5.0. For others out there, should I uninstall it?
>
> Also, for the others out there, what do you think about the idea of installing different versions of FF in different folders? Say 2 more versions?
>
> J

Hello Mr. Kolenovsky. I don't want to make your life any more
complicated, but I need you to do me (and yourself) a favor. Your
quoting style is all messed up.

I fixed your quoting for this message. Please take a good look at it to
see how it's done. A sane newsreader should do this automatically, but
your newsreader might force you to do it yourself.

Your message, which is quoted, is preceded by ">" on each line, and
Leonidas Jones' messaage, which is double quoted, is preceded by ">>" on
each line. Leonidas Jones' message is double quoted because it's a quote
of a quote.

You're probably going to find more help if you use a rational quoting
style than if you continue as you have been.


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squaredancer

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Oct 5, 2006, 12:39:44 PM10/5/06
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On 04.10.2006 19:51, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Phillip M.
Jones, C.E.T to generate the following:? :

my favorite sport is called Beertran-sport 8-)

reg

Irwin Greenwald

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Oct 5, 2006, 5:55:13 PM10/5/06
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He needs to download and install OE Quotefix
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ so that his replies
are readable by clients other than OE.

Irwin

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"Mumia W. (using mozilla)" <paduille.4...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> On 10/04/2006 12:24 AM, J. Kolenovsky wrote:
>> "Leonidas Jones" <leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:V_ydnTHrr6Uso77Y...@mozilla.org...
>>
>>> I am glad to have helped resolve your image loading problems, and I hope
>>> that others can help to solve your others. Good luck in solving your
>>> problems, I wish you all the best."
>>>
>>> Lee
>>
>> After the explosion, I need all the best.
>>
>> It was nice having you help me. The image loading was only solved in one
>> of the three examples and 33 1/3% is better than zip. I did learn about
>> the "load images/from the originating site only" check box. Now if I can
>> find out about the other 66 1/3% image loading, that would be great.
>> Also, it seems that I should not have installed JRE 5.0. For others out
>> there, should I uninstall it?
>>
>> Also, for the others out there, what do you think about the idea of
>> installing different versions of FF in different folders? Say 2 more
>> versions?
>>
>> J
>
" Hello Mr. Kolenovsky. I don't want to make your life any more
complicated, but I need you to do me (and yourself) a favor. Your

quoting style is all messed up." (quote J - and that's all thats messed up)

Thank you, Mr Mumbia.

I don't want my life any more complicated because I couldn't handle that. I
am too simplistic.
What I am trying to do is fix my Firefox and then I'll go away. That way I
don't have to learn the ways of this group. Great group. I just want to fix
my problem. I need to return to raising support to live on rather than take
a short course in this or that. If I can't get it fixed, I guess I'll just
load the version 2 of FF and hope it goes away.

J. Kolenovsky

Leonidas Jones

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Oct 5, 2006, 11:40:07 PM10/5/06
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J. Kolenovsky wrote:

Mumia's point is that the quoting/posting style that you are using is
making it very, very difficult for us to understand what you are talking
about. That's really why you are not getting the help you feel you
need. We want to help, but if we don't get clear information about the
problem, its really hard for us to help you resolve it.

Someone, I think it was Mumia, in another thread, also made a very good
point. You are clearly an inexperienced user of Firefox. The last
thing you should be doing is installing a test build. FF 2.0 RC1 is a
release candidate. There may be several release candidates released
before the version is deemed ready to be released to end users.
Inexperienced users should stick with release versions, in this case
1.5.0.7.

I am not exactly an inexperienced user. I test on a machine for the
purpose, with profiles for the purpose. On my working machines, I use
the release builds. Don't download test builds to fix problems.
Download them to test how they work, and send feedback to Mozilla to
improve it.

J. Kolenovsky

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"Leonidas Jones" <Leonid...@netscape.net> wrote in message

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Mr. Jones, way back when I did reference to downloading versions that are
not final releases. Ithen turned around and said I don't believe in that and
that I use final releases. Yesterday I said I llok forward to the 2.0 final
release whether it fixed the problem or not. I didn't mean that. I do hope
it fixes the problem or not. That's all I want to do. I'm not trying to join
into a usenet world specialty group. I am not trying to become a power user.
I don't need any Mozilla status. I just want to fix the problem or get a
clue from the extremely bright people on this group. Then I will
leave...posting style and all.

j


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