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Spiderman

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Mar 15, 2009, 10:07:35 AM3/15/09
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Hi,
how can I mark bookmarks as (un-)read?! Thanks in advance.

Miles

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Mar 15, 2009, 10:55:04 AM3/15/09
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* Spiderman wrote, On 3/15/2009 07:07:
> Hi,
> how can I mark bookmarks as (un-)read?! Thanks in advance.

Believe if you hit the M key it will mark it unread.

David McRitchie

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Mar 15, 2009, 11:06:19 AM3/15/09
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"Spiderman" wrote:
> how can I mark bookmarks as (un-)read?!

I am guessing here but based on the links in a page you
can change the visited or not visited status of bookmarks with

"Web Developer" extension (181 KB) -- https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/60
Tools, Web Developer, Miscellaneous, Visited Links,
Make all Links Visited
Make all Links Unvisited

The Web Developer extension is basically a very large collection of what
are/were bookmarklets all organized into a tree structured submenus.
I would recommend this extension. It used to be installed with Firefox
depending on an option you picked. You specifically have to install it
now though.

There are smaller extensions say 20 KB for the single purpose mentioned
Link Visitor, Link Visitor 2, Link Visitor 3 and 20KB download seems
very high for a single purpose extension may have had difficulty converting
extension from Fx2 to Fx3 due to bookmarks. (different authors)
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/38
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2042
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/7941

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David McRitchie

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Mar 15, 2009, 11:21:43 AM3/15/09
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This provides more options but not sure where menu came from
it is not built-in to Firefox, and the menus of Web Developer through
tools don't supply as many options, but WD would be my best guess.
View (menu), Mark links Un/Visited...,
then you have choices to mark or unmark all or selected links.

David McRitchie

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Mar 15, 2009, 11:37:21 AM3/15/09
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"David McRitchie" <fire...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:ua6dnVDNQvgPgCDU...@mozilla.org...

Just discovered that I do have Link Visitor 3.3 (19 KB download) installed and that would
be where those View menu options come from.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/7941
and I did document on it on my page, it is no longer experimental
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm#linkvisitor

Since some pages have links rather hard to see whether they are read or not
you might also be interested in this bookmarklet that turns visited links RED
using F5 will reload page without bookmarklet changes. The name of the
bookmarklet is easy to remember (for English speaking folks, play on words).

Name: red: Visited lines to RED for visibility*
Keyword: red:
Location:
javascript:styles=':visited,%20:visited%20*%20{%20color:%20#FF0000!important;%20}';%20newSS%20=%20document.createElement('link');%20newSS.rel%20=%20'stylesheet';%20newSS.href%20=%20'data:text/css,'%20+%20escape(styles);%20document.documentElement.childNodes[0].appendChild(newSS);%20void%200

David McRitchie

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Mar 15, 2009, 11:47:55 AM3/15/09
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"Miles"
> Believe if you hit the M key it will mark it unread.

That was too cryptic for me, but it forced me to look through my menus
and find that I had "Link Visitor 3" extension installed, so did help me
provide a better answer. Though I don't know what you did to get "M" option.

Miles

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Mar 15, 2009, 12:35:18 PM3/15/09
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Sorry, I was in the wrong NG and thinking of changing msgs.

Chuck Anderson

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Mar 15, 2009, 3:27:38 PM3/15/09
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Spiderman wrote:
> Hi,
> how can I mark bookmarks as (un-)read?! Thanks in advance.
>

Individual bookmarks? And do you mean - mark visited links as unvisited?

If so, type (begin typing) it into the location bar, find it in the drop
down - hover over it and hit delete to remove it from your browsing history.

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Spiderman

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Mar 15, 2009, 6:08:02 PM3/15/09
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David McRitchie schrieb:
I'm not sure you have understood what I mean. I want to mark somehow the
bookmarks in the bookmark menu as read or unread. I have my bookmarks
sorted but some of it wasn't visited. I want to mark this bookmarks as
unvisited without creating a bookmark directory called "unread" because
I want to have all sorted in my categories. As I read the description of
"Link Visitor 3 3.3" I think it marks automatically the visited
bookmarks. I'm not sure if I can mark or unmark it manually by this
add-on. I think I will just try and see if it is possible to do so.
Sometimes people don't understand me because of my bad english.

Spiderman

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Mar 15, 2009, 6:17:53 PM3/15/09
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Chuck Anderson schrieb:

> Spiderman wrote:
>> Hi,
>> how can I mark bookmarks as (un-)read?! Thanks in advance.
>>
>
> Individual bookmarks? And do you mean - mark visited links as unvisited?
>
> If so, type (begin typing) it into the location bar, find it in the drop
> down - hover over it and hit delete to remove it from your browsing
> history.
>
I will try to say it better. I don't want to do anything with the
history of firefox. I just have added some bookmarks and want to mark
some of this bookmarks as not read because I haven't read it jet. I
could make a bookmark directory called "unread" but so this bookmarks
weren't sorted as they are now. I hope now everything is clear. Sorry
for my bad english. I'm no native english speaker and my posts may be a
bit confusing.

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Mar 15, 2009, 6:36:59 PM3/15/09
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In <news:joSdnUi5A82_4SDU...@mozilla.org>,
Spiderman <Spid...@no-spam.com> wrote:

> I want to mark somehow the bookmarks in the bookmark menu as read or
> unread. I have my bookmarks sorted but some of it wasn't visited. I
> want to mark this bookmarks as unvisited without creating a bookmark
> directory called "unread" because I want to have all sorted in my
> categories.

I couldn't find an add-on for doing that very quickly, for example by
right-clicking the bookmark. The only way I know to do it is to search
history for the bookmark, either using the history sidebar or the
library, then deleting it from history.

Or, depending on what you really want, you could use tags to mark the
ones you've actually read and/or the ones you haven't read.

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Spiderman

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Mar 15, 2009, 6:47:50 PM3/15/09
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»Q« schrieb:

> In <news:joSdnUi5A82_4SDU...@mozilla.org>,
> Spiderman <Spid...@no-spam.com> wrote:
>
>> I want to mark somehow the bookmarks in the bookmark menu as read or
>> unread. I have my bookmarks sorted but some of it wasn't visited. I
>> want to mark this bookmarks as unvisited without creating a bookmark
>> directory called "unread" because I want to have all sorted in my
>> categories.
>
> I couldn't find an add-on for doing that very quickly, for example by
> right-clicking the bookmark. The only way I know to do it is to search
> history for the bookmark, either using the history sidebar or the
> library, then deleting it from history.
>
> Or, depending on what you really want, you could use tags to mark the
> ones you've actually read and/or the ones you haven't read.
>
I know tags from thunderbird but don't seen any in firefox. Are they now
also in firefox?

Spiderman

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Mar 15, 2009, 6:57:34 PM3/15/09
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David McRitchie schrieb:

> "Spiderman" wrote:
>> how can I mark bookmarks as (un-)read?!
>
> I am guessing here but based on the links in a page you
> can change the visited or not visited status of bookmarks with
>
> "Web Developer" extension (181 KB) --
> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/60
> Tools, Web Developer, Miscellaneous, Visited Links, Make all Links
> Visited
> Make all Links Unvisited
>
> The Web Developer extension is basically a very large collection of what
> are/were bookmarklets all organized into a tree structured submenus.
> I would recommend this extension. It used to be installed with Firefox
> depending on an option you picked. You specifically have to install it
> now though.
> There are smaller extensions say 20 KB for the single purpose mentioned
> Link Visitor, Link Visitor 2, Link Visitor 3 and 20KB download
> seems very high for a single purpose extension may have had difficulty
> converting
> extension from Fx2 to Fx3 due to bookmarks. (different authors)
> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/38
> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2042
> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/7941
>
I marked in the bookmark menu one bookmark link as visited and one as
unvisited using Link Visitor 3.3 but I don't see any changes. I think it
will only show other colour of the link if the link is in a website and
not as a bookmark. I need something else as it seems.

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Mar 15, 2009, 6:51:12 PM3/15/09
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In <news:TbqdnZ33KJ_t4yDU...@mozilla.org>,
Spiderman <Spid...@no-spam.com> wrote:

> I will try to say it better. I don't want to do anything with the
> history of firefox. I just have added some bookmarks and want to mark
> some of this bookmarks as not read because I haven't read it jet.

"Visited" and "unvisited" have only to do with history. If a URL is
in history, it is "visited". If a URL is not in history, it is
"unvisited". So if you mean "visited/unvisited" when you say
"read/unread", there is no way to avoid dealing with history.

If you mean something other than "visited/unvisited" when you say
"read/unread", we can't figure out what it is; maybe using different
terms would help, but unfortunately I can't guess what they would be.

To do something like what you seem to want without doing anything with
history, I think the best (only?) way is to add an "unread" tag to the
bookmarks for pages you haven't read yet. But then when you do read
them, you'll have to remember to remove the tag.

David McRitchie

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Mar 15, 2009, 7:05:31 PM3/15/09
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"Spiderman"
> I'm not sure you have understood what I mean. I want to mark somehow the
> bookmarks in the bookmark menu as read or unread. I have my bookmarks
> sorted but some of it wasn't visited. I want to mark this bookmarks as
> unvisited without creating a bookmark directory called "unread" because
> I want to have all sorted in my categories. As I read the description of
> "Link Visitor 3 3.3" I think it marks automatically the visited
> bookmarks. I'm not sure if I can mark or unmark it manually by this
> add-on. I think I will just try and see if it is possible to do so.
> Sometimes people don't understand me because of my bad english.

Try using more words in describing your problem. Basically so far
you have indicated nothing about the purpose,
what you expect to see when everything is as you want it.

Rather than trying to ask for what you think will solve your problem
tell us what your problem is so we can make better suggestions.

What entries are you trying to affect that you will see
1) bookmarks in sidebar Ctrl+B
2) bookmarks in the Library list (bookmarks, Organize Bookmarks)
list can be search and what you see can be then sorted on any of
the columns. You can search on http: or http or :// to
try to pick up all urls so you sort as you see fit regardless of folders.
3) Location bar autocomplet e better known as the AwesomeBar
suggestions based on what you type into location bar
4) History (ctrl+H) can be searched ant arranged by View button.
Similar list in the Library list Ctrl+Shift+H

How do you know you are not seeing what you want to see.
How will you know when you see what you want to see and
what would you be looking at.

What Link Visitor 3 might be good for is, you look at it say
yep that's stuff I wrote or I seen all this stuff many times I want
to mark all links as visited. Or maybe it's a daily blog showing
the month. Read what you want and ignore the rest mark all links
as read, go to someone else's blog and ignore all links already
marked as read -- many blogs copy from one another so save time.

Autocomplete:

Where you may have seen use of the term unread bookmarks are
bookmarks that have no history. You can eliminate the history one
at a time at the location bar by del the entry, but if it is a bookmark
it has a star and you will see it still. So if you do not want to display
unread bookmarks that means changing configuration variables
and / or frecency tables

What is it that you are trying to accomplish, what is it that you
do not want to see., What do you want to see, and where.
Basically a question has to ask Who, when, where, why, how, how much
the more you can put into a question the more likely you will get the
answer you are looking for. It is normally harder to ask a good
question than to provide a good answer. So spend time on the question.
and provide feedback quickly.
for instance typing into location bar: zine problematic
each string must be found in the title and/or url of a webpage to be of interest
and would if you've been there or have the page bookmarked include
Problematic extensions -- http://kb.mozillazine.org/Problematic_extensions


David McRitchie

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Mar 15, 2009, 7:12:25 PM3/15/09
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"Spiderman" ...

> I marked in the bookmark menu one bookmark link as visited and one as
> unvisited using Link Visitor 3.3 but I don't see any changes. I think it
> will only show other colour of the link if the link is in a website and
> not as a bookmark. I need something else as it seems.

If you are really trying to work with the bookmarks list itself try exporting
the list to a permanent location like c:/temp/bookmarks.html
and work with that list for awhile. You can always refresh it by exporting
a newer set of bookmarks to that directory. Then you select areas such
as entire blocks of folders that you want to be known as read or unread
and use the Link Visitor extension accordingly on a web page.
You can invoke from View menu, Tools menu, Context (Right-click) menu.

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Mar 15, 2009, 7:27:15 PM3/15/09
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In <news:Gb-dnRNLHa3rGCDU...@mozilla.org>,
Spiderman <Spid...@no-spam.com> wrote:

> I know tags from thunderbird but don't seen any in firefox. Are they
> now also in firefox?

Yes -- see <http://support.mozilla.com/kb/bookmark+tags>.

Spiderman

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Mar 15, 2009, 7:31:41 PM3/15/09
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David McRitchie schrieb:
O.k. One more try. I want to have other "mark" for read and unread
bookmarks. But I want to set it manually. I want to see the marks in
"bookmarks in sidebar" and "bookmarks in the Library list (bookmarks,
Organize Bookmarks)". The kind of the marks could be bold and normal
font or other colours for read and unread bookmarks, etc. I don't want
to change the links in a website which you might have thought at the
begining. Hope I could make it clear by giving more informations. Sorry
for the confusing.

Spiderman

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Mar 15, 2009, 7:46:04 PM3/15/09
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»Q« schrieb:

> In <news:Gb-dnRNLHa3rGCDU...@mozilla.org>,
> Spiderman <Spid...@no-spam.com> wrote:
>
>> I know tags from thunderbird but don't seen any in firefox. Are they
>> now also in firefox?
>
> Yes -- see <http://support.mozilla.com/kb/bookmark+tags>.
>
I would like to have such tags as in thunderbird. I mean other colo(u)rs
. Or make some of the bookmarks "bold".

David McRitchie

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Mar 15, 2009, 7:55:47 PM3/15/09
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Here another possibility of an answer. One that that seem to
run in common with several of you replies is that you are looking
at the bookmarks directory. Before Firefox 3 pages bookmarked
with Ctrl+D without a folder would be added tot the bottom of
bookmarks. Firefox 3 works the same way with the the Star on
the location bar, except that the go into the "Unsorted Bookmarks"
folder this is a big "improvement" that sends people scurrying to
find shelter.

Look in your "Unsorted Bookmarks" I expect there is a bookmark
you see there where everything above it is has been read, and
that bookmark and everything below it has not been read. You do
not need to move items to a folder, simply right-click on that
bookmark and use "insert separator".

Separators are great because you can sort your bookmarks and
everything between separators is sorted independently of other groups in the folder.

Since you appear to be working form the bookmarks sidebar after
you have read page drag it bookmark above the separator for later filing,
delete it, or file it properly,. In addition you can make some developers
and Mozilla bloggers very happy by tagging the bookmark.

Do you think that answers your question?

Once you have your bookmark separator in place you should have no
fear of sorting bookmarks including "Unsorted Bookmarks" the ones
you haven't review would be sorted but they would be below the separator.
The "SortPlaces" extension allows you to sort all files in any of the 3 primary
folders "Bookmarks Toolbar" probably want to leave that alone for now,
"Bookmarks Menu" probably want to sort all bookmarks inside that
"Unfiled Bookmarks" eventually will want to sort these as well.
Sorting is controlled by the Tool, Add-ons, SortPlaces, click for options.

I have about 5 bookmarks tagged out of 2565 bookmarks on this machine,
so that probably give you an idea of how necessary I find it.
I have about 650 bookmarks with keyword shortcuts. 440 of those
with keywords I have into a public file that you can see
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/lessons/intro/k.html

I find myself bookmarking pages just so that they will be found
by the AwesomeBar. But Google is where I look for most things
and I use search engine (search box), or specialize keyword shortcuts
for my searching.

BTW, this is a lot of material on my webpages
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm

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Mar 16, 2009, 12:44:43 AM3/16/09
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In <news:fridnSK90tqBDiDU...@mozilla.org>,
Spiderman <Spid...@no-spam.com> wrote:

I think this should be possible for an extension to do, by querying the
database for the tags then changing the CSS for each bookmark's
display. Unfortunately, I don't know of an extension that does that.

More than that, now that I see clearly what you want, I don't know any
way to do it. Sorry. :(

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David McRitchie

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Mar 16, 2009, 10:17:17 AM3/16/09
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"»Q«"

> Spiderman <Spid...@no-spam.com> wrote:
>> I would like to have such tags as in thunderbird. I mean other
>> colo(u)rs . Or make some of the bookmarks "bold".
>
> I think this should be possible for an extension to do, by querying the
> database for the tags then changing the CSS for each bookmark's
> display. Unfortunately, I don't know of an extension that does that.

Don't know anything about Thunderbird, you can get the separations
within the Library list itself without the use of colors. That is if it is only
bookmarks in the "Unsorted Bookmarks list" that are of interest.

Bring up the Library list . (Bookmarks, Organize bookmarks)
Select "Unsorted Bookmarks" on the left

On the right you want to sort on the 'Visit Date' column (descending)
as you read articles they will get a visit date and should change immediately.
You (Spiderman) would be reading through the ones without the dates.

Is it just me or is the library list wildly scrolling without control. If that
is the case then sort on 'Visit Date (last)' column (ascending)

Sorting in the Library list is like other such lists click on the column heading
to get sorting by that column, click again and get a descending list.

If a column such as 'Visit Date' is not included then add it by right-click on
any column heading or through the Library view menu. Resize by dragging
column border. Rearrange columns by dragging column gray column header.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Viewing_the_browsing_history_-_Firefox#History_-_Places_Library

Spiderman

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Mar 16, 2009, 3:32:11 PM3/16/09
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David McRitchie schrieb:
But the problem is that I don't want to solve it by using the "unsorted
bookmarks" as I said in one of my last postings. Because I want to have
this bookmarks sorted in some bookmark directories because of having a
specific order.

David Pyles

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Mar 16, 2009, 3:44:31 PM3/16/09
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One possibility would be for you to tag your unread bookmarks with
"unread" then type unread into the bookmark sidebar filter and it would
only show the unread bookmarks without changing the sort order. Once
you are ready to consider the bookmark "read" you could then manually
remove the unread tag.

Just a thought.

Dave Pyles

David McRitchie

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Mar 16, 2009, 4:27:26 PM3/16/09
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"Spiderman"
> But the problem is that I don't want to solve it by using the "unsorted
> bookmarks" as I said in one of my last postings. Because I want to have
> this bookmarks sorted in some bookmark directories because of having a
> specific order.

We are talking about 3.0.7 right?
You can actually see what is in my "K" folder at
http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/lessons/intro/k.html
in fact it even has the dates stuff in there, but since they are mostly
keyword shortcuts they won't be the actual files opened. You could import it
to a test profile, or simply view it, it is a reduced bookmarks.html file.

When you sort on a column in the Library list it will only affect what you
see at that time. On the left side pick the folder that you want to look at.
I have a folder named "K" on my Bookmarks Toolbar
so I select "K" on the left side of the Library list, and there are several
subfolders such as Extensions, Firefox Presentation, Tab Capacity Testing
and the not in folders are the bulk of my bookmarks that have a keyword (alias).

After selecting "K" on the left
In the search box on the right side enter colon ":'
that will pick up http:// https:// file:/// javascript: and even ftp:
Then sort on the "Visit Date (last)" column which will include only
the folders and subfolders that selected sorted by Visit date. The ones
with the blank dates are the one you are looking for. As you read them
they get visit dates added to the bookmark.

If it is important that they be red or blue links then the other suggestion
had been to export your bookmarks and view the HTML listing.

The other choice already covered was the use of the separator bars that
would help you maintain the order you want . If the unread stuff has been
added to the bottom of a folder as it would by by dragging to a folder without
opening the bookmark folder your system of bookmarking is not
compromised in any way that I can tell from what you have described, unless
you have already rearranged them in the folder -- in which case use the Library list.
If you do not use the search on the library list, the bookmarks will be sorted within
their folders -- remember it is temporary for that list not a permanent sort.

Do install the "Show Parent Folder" extension so you can sort the Library list
any which way you want and see what folder the bookmark is in, be sure to choose
the show full pathname in it's options.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7372

You might about as well bookmark this thread
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_frm/thread/eae10aca2621c5c2

I can only help you with what is available. The library list allows you to view your bookmarks
exactly as you see them in the bookmarks sidebar and you can look at the date visited column
and use that instead of looking at a color change.

The bookmarks are the area that the developers are working on right now, so if you feel
you must have the bookmarks turn color now is the time to put in an enhancement
request.. To me it would make the listing look rather gaudy and wouldn't be that
useful because the information is available in the Library list. with the column customization
already mentioned in this thread.

Spiderman

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Mar 16, 2009, 4:54:23 PM3/16/09
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David Pyles schrieb:
It is quite nice but I would like to navigate through the bookmark
directories and see some changes in the entries of the choosen
directory. Un-/Read should have other colo(u)r or one of it should be
bold. I don't want to have a search list output because I like to have a
better overview by using the directories.

David McRitchie

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Mar 16, 2009, 5:28:10 PM3/16/09
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Your last sort of a column in the Library list is sticky so if
you don't want it sorted, you have to unselect the sorting
by it's Views menu, Sort, Unsorted

David Pyles

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Mar 16, 2009, 6:18:04 PM3/16/09
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I think you are asking for something that Firefox will not do at its
current stage of development.

Dave Pyles

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