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eboni

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Jun 27, 2008, 1:33:01 PM6/27/08
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I've just got a laptop and immediately installed FF 3.0 and to my
dismay my default search ( only when searching using the address bar)
is MSN live search. I cant find where i cn change the option, as in my
about:config it is set to google as a default, but still live search
comes up. Weirdly enough when I have tried to search using IE7 it uses
google search so Im totally stuck.
Anyone know why this is happening, and if there is a fix.
Thanks in advance

EE

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Jun 27, 2008, 2:02:55 PM6/27/08
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Did you look at all the search preference settings? Type "search" into
the filter line in about:config and see if anything comes up with a
value of MSN. If so, change that to Google.

David McRitchie

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Jun 27, 2008, 4:11:07 PM6/27/08
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"EE" <nu...@bees.wax> wrote in message news:nvOdnXNSHJDZtvjV...@mozilla.org...

This is what you should have for default: (it has nothing to do with keyword shortcuts)

keyword.URL default string
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=
keyword.enabled default boolean true

I personally have my settings different to make sure that I never accidentally
invoke a search from the location bar (address bar). You can read what
I do instead http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/search.htm
if interested.


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HTH,
David McRitchie, extensions I use are briefly documented on my site
Firefox Custom: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm

nrlyi...@googlemail.com

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Jul 13, 2008, 11:13:29 PM7/13/08
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Hi guys thanks for replying, ive checked my about: config, and default
search options, all pointing to google using default strings pointing
there. I am just confused as its also happening on my PC with FF 2.0.
I know this might be throwing a can of magical worms out there, but is
there anyway your isp can change your default search provider?

Alex K.

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:56:24 AM7/14/08
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The short answer is yes, however, they're not changing anything on your
system or browser.

Here's the longer answer:

I believe that the address bar search mechanism in FF relies on the DNS
server to return a 'not found' message, for invalid domains. Once it
receives that message, then it will fall back to the defined search options.

What a number of ISPs have done, is to setup their DNS servers to return
an address to a search page, if the domain is not found, rather than
returning a 'not found' message.

As a result, the browser never gets a 'not found' message, even for
complete gobbledegook. As far as the browser is concerned, it received
a valid answer to the DNS query, so it never sees the need to use its
search options.

Since you say its also happening on another system, with FF2, I suspect
that this is probably your situation.

Check your ISP's help pages, or contact their tech support folks, to
find out if they offer a way to disable/bypass that redirect.

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Alex K.

David McRitchie

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Jul 14, 2008, 4:58:45 AM7/14/08
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<nrlyinvited wrote:...

What search toolbars do you have installed
View, Toolbars, ...
I realize you are talking about searching from the location bar
but some ISP installed things aren't very nice.

Look again in your about:config as filtering will search
on all of the columns (preference name, status, type, and value) in Fx3.
Try filter: msn
then try filter: live
anything you see for adblock or keep-alive options would
have nothing to do with your problem. The lists of numbered
search engines are, of course, your search bar.

eboni

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Jul 16, 2008, 6:17:43 PM7/16/08
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On 14 Jul, 09:58, "David McRitchie" <nospam@nospam> wrote:
> <nrlyinvited wrote:...
>
> > Hi guys thanks for replying, ive checked my about: config, and default
> >searchoptions, all pointing to google using default strings pointing

> > there. I am just confused as its also happening on my PC with FF 2.0.
> > I know this might be throwing a can of magical worms out there, but is
> > there anyway your isp can change your defaultsearchprovider?
>
> Whatsearchtoolbars do you have installed

> View, Toolbars, ...
> I realize you are talking about searching from the location bar
> but some ISP installed things aren't very nice.
>
> Look again in your about:config as filtering willsearch
> on all of the columns (preference name, status, type, and value) in Fx3.
> Try filter: msn
> then try filter: live
> anything you see for adblock or keep-alive options would
> have nothing to do with your problem. The lists of numberedsearchengines are, of course, your searchbar.
>
> --
> HTH,
> David McRitchie, extensions I use are briefly documented on my siteFirefoxCustom: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/firefox.htm

everything in my about config is pointing to either google as default
(1st choice) or to yahoo as second choice... so cant see how msn live
is even getting there. I dont think my about:config is the problem, as
my dad is now saying he has started to get the same issue with
searching and he is using an independent PC downstairs.

David McRitchie

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Jul 16, 2008, 6:56:36 PM7/16/08
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"eboni" ...

That may be so, but without answers to the the three questions
I asked it's rather difficult to continue, actually don't know if I
could think of something else, but answers to the questions
would help.

Jacek Kobus

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Jul 19, 2008, 8:18:43 PM7/19/08
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I have the same problem.

What i found out, is that IE uses the same search address as it appears in
firefox. So it is not anything like firefox config etc., but in this case it
is your operating system settings.

When firefox tryies to handle query like "lucky search" in URL bar, OS (in
my situation VISTA home prem.) redirects me* to the LIVE search. I tried to
find this settings in my registry, but it did not work. The last chance to
set it up, it so to lunch group policy and see, if there is something like
"global default system searchengine".

In vista home there is no gpedit.msc group policy editing tool nor any other
and useful *.msc consoles, so I cant do anything about.

We could, of course, try to mess up with *hosts* file, but it will problably
result in a blank page.

Similar:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/14f6c9be43d00762

If anyone could help us out, DO IT ! :))

*
00:00:05.697 8.312 366 386 GET 302 Redirect to:
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=test&form=MSSRPD http://test/
00:00:14.120 1.900 681 5483 GET 200 text/html
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=test&form=MSSRPD

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Alex K.

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Jul 20, 2008, 7:10:34 AM7/20/08
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Jacek Kobus wrote:
> I have the same problem.
>
> What i found out, is that IE uses the same search address as it appears in
> firefox. So it is not anything like firefox config etc., but in this case it
> is your operating system settings.

I really doubt it is an OS setting, but rather, how your ISP has
configured its DNS servers.
See my previous reply in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/msg/eb14045f36f41f88

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Alex K.

THEgrumpy one

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Jul 21, 2008, 11:11:08 AM7/21/08
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My husband has his home page set to google, you could try that, mine is
set to alta vista on a shared vista media center
his link for the google home page is
http://www.google.com/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

nullGM

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Jul 25, 2008, 1:53:36 PM7/25/08
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I had the same problem and i think i found the solution, i dont know
if this is a bug or a deliberate action by microsoft to hijack every
404 no matter what DNS you use.
The problem is the Connection-specific DNS Suffix, open a command
prompt and type ipconfig, if you have this problem you should have
mshome.net as dns suffix, what does this mean? It means that if you
type ie: "test" in your adress bar the DNS will look up test and then
having found no entry i will lookup test.mshome.net. And guess what?
test.mshome.net redirects to a live search of "test"
If you go to your connection settings, in TCP/IP properties > Advanced
Settings there is no mention of this dns suffix, so where does it come
from? ANyway i fixed it by (in those settings) clicking Append these
DNS suffixes (in order), then adding 127.0.0.1 as a suffix and in DNS
suffix for this connection writing 127.0.0.1 too.
I dont exactly know if what i did breaks something else. Maybe someone
with a little more knowledge can explain.

kobus...@gmail.com

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Jul 29, 2008, 6:21:49 PM7/29/08
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Yes, thats right.
I described it here:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=446241#c0

(my comments are a bit retarded cause i was workin at 3 am so my brain
went off O_o )

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