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Desiree
Dec 3, 2012, 10:05:19 AM12/3/12
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I still use Fx 10 ESR on a new Win 8 computer. (Version 17 ESR was not yet
available when I installed Fx on the new computer and I am on overload with
coping with Win 8 so don't need a new Fx OS yet also). The spell checker
doesn't work if a misspelled word is in capital letters. Why is that? Spell
checker is oblivious to the misspelling of the word. But if I type the word
in non-caps then the spell checker reacts when it is misspelled.
available when I installed Fx on the new computer and I am on overload with
coping with Win 8 so don't need a new Fx OS yet also). The spell checker
doesn't work if a misspelled word is in capital letters. Why is that? Spell
checker is oblivious to the misspelling of the word. But if I type the word
in non-caps then the spell checker reacts when it is misspelled.
g
Dec 3, 2012, 10:22:41 AM12/3/12
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On 12/03/2012 03:05 PM, Desiree wrote:
<>
> The spell checker doesn't work if a misspelled word is in capital letters.
> Why is that?
programers of spell check routine are not aware of how to bit check words
for upper case bit and make adjustments.
--
peace out.
tc.hago,
g
.
Rav
Dec 3, 2012, 10:37:01 AM12/3/12
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following misspellings of the same word:
misidentfied Misidentfied MISIDENTIFIED
The first two occurrences are underlined, the third isn't. It's not
true that the spell checker can only handle lower-case words; it
identifies both misidentfied and Misidentfied as being misspelled. I
have found that it's typical for spell checkers to exempt words in
all-caps from being considered misspelled, since many times such words
are actually abbreviations (i.e. DIY, SOHO, AOL, CIA). Perhaps there's
a preference which can be set to alter that behavior but if there is I
don't know what it is.
g
Dec 3, 2012, 10:43:53 AM12/3/12
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On 12/03/2012 03:22 PM, g wrote:
>
> On 12/03/2012 03:05 PM, Desiree wrote:
> <>
>
>> The spell checker doesn't work if a misspelled word is in capital letters.
>> Why is that?
>
>> Why is that?
>
> because spell checker only has _lower_case_words_ in it's list.
>
> programers of spell check routine are not aware of how to bit check words
> for upper case bit and make adjustments.
*in addition*
>
> programers of spell check routine are not aware of how to bit check words
> for upper case bit and make adjustments.
if you have problems with spelling, you could compose emails in a
word processor of a type that is aware of upper case spelling. then
copy and paste to email.
best thing, learn to spell. ;)
Was Greywolf
Dec 3, 2012, 11:58:08 AM12/3/12
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On 03/12/2012 10:37 AM, Rav wrote:
> On 12/3/2012 10:05 AM, Desiree wrote:
>> I still use Fx 10 ESR on a new Win 8 computer. (Version 17 ESR was not
>> yet
>> available when I installed Fx on the new computer and I am on overload
>> with
>> coping with Win 8 so don't need a new Fx OS yet also). The spell checker
>> doesn't work if a misspelled word is in capital letters. Why is that?
>> Spell
>> checker is oblivious to the misspelling of the word. But if I type the
>> word
>> in non-caps then the spell checker reacts when it is misspelled.
>>
>>
>
> I assume you mean a word that's in ALL caps. For example, given the
> following misspellings of the same word:
>
> misidentfied Misidentfied MISIDENTIFIED
>
> The first two occurrences are underlined, the third isn't....
> On 12/3/2012 10:05 AM, Desiree wrote:
>> I still use Fx 10 ESR on a new Win 8 computer. (Version 17 ESR was not
>> yet
>> available when I installed Fx on the new computer and I am on overload
>> with
>> coping with Win 8 so don't need a new Fx OS yet also). The spell checker
>> doesn't work if a misspelled word is in capital letters. Why is that?
>> Spell
>> checker is oblivious to the misspelling of the word. But if I type the
>> word
>> in non-caps then the spell checker reacts when it is misspelled.
>>
>>
>
> I assume you mean a word that's in ALL caps. For example, given the
> following misspellings of the same word:
>
> misidentfied Misidentfied MISIDENTIFIED
>
That's because it's spelled correctly.
--
Best,
Wolf K.
Chris Ilias
Dec 3, 2012, 3:25:33 PM12/3/12
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capital letters. If you go to
Firefox-->Help-->Restart_with_Add-ons_Disabled, does the problem still
occur? If not, the cause is probably an extension. See
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-extensions-themes-to-fix-problems>.
By the way, if I remember correctly, you tend to do a lot of hacking of
Firefox files that is discouraged. That may be a reason why you are
experiencing the problem.
--
Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator
Rav
Dec 3, 2012, 4:54:23 PM12/3/12
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MISIDENTFIED, it underlined it. I guess that means that (at least for
me) it's acting the way the OP wanted. Though I would personally prefer
that it NOT consider all-cap words to be misspelled (by default).
goodwin
Dec 3, 2012, 5:41:49 PM12/3/12
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On 12/03/2012 07:43 AM, g wrote:
> best thing, learn to spell.;)
ouch...
> best thing, learn to spell.;)
VanguardLH
Dec 4, 2012, 4:43:55 AM12/4/12
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"goodwin" wrote:
> g wrote:
>
>> best thing, learn to spell.;)
>
> ouch...
From g's first post:
> g wrote:
>
>> best thing, learn to spell.;)
>
> ouch...
Wrong: "in it's list"
Correct: "in its list"
"It's" is a contraction of "it is".
Wrong: "Programers"
Correct: "Programmers"
There are two "m" characters.
g's other adage: do as I say, not as I do.
g
Dec 4, 2012, 6:53:37 AM12/4/12
to Firefox help community
On 12/04/2012 09:43 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> "goodwin" wrote:
>
>> g wrote:
>>
>>> best thing, learn to spell.;)
>>
>> ouch...
>
>>From g's first post:
>
> Wrong: "in it's list"
> Correct: "in its list"
> "It's" is a contraction of "it is".
know of what you write before you consider such.
my usage was meant as possessive, not as contraction.
i am 'old school' and in some cases, still follow
teachings from that time.
> Wrong: "Programers"
> Correct: "Programmers"
> There are two "m" characters.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/programer
> g's other adage: do as I say, not as I do.
--
peace out.
tc.hago,
g
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VanguardLH
Dec 4, 2012, 4:16:44 PM12/4/12
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NOTE: g's *trollish* attempt to redirect replies into a different
newsgroup using the FollowUp-To header were thwarted by using the
original newsgroup(s) in my reply.
Original newsgroup: mozilla.support.firefox
Attempted redirect: mozilla.general
"g" wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> g wrote:
>>
>>> best thing, learn to spell.;)
>>
"it's" is a contraction of "it is" or "it has".
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/its
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/american-english/it-s
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/it%27s?region=us&q=it%27s
or
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/it%27s?region=us)
Old school wrong is still new school wrong. Yoos waz taut rong. It must
also be old school not to capitalize the first letter of the first word
in a sentence. Grammar must also not be innate to your "old school".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/it%27s
Initial usage: circa 1555
Wow, now that's r-e-a-l-l-y old school. How much does that elixir cost?
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=its
OED doesn't have a free online service (very handy for word etymology
but costs $295 to subscribe); however, the above site uses it for
reference. They cite from OED that "it's" was used as the possessive
form up until the early part of the 19th century. So you're approaching
200 years of age now?
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=its
>> Wrong: "Programers"
>> Correct: "Programmers"
>> There are two "m" characters.
>
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/programer
Um, you do realize that articles in wikis are written by anyone that
wants to register to post there. They do NOT go through the rigorous
examination and deliberation involved in composing dictionaries.
What dictionaries have been published by the editors of this wiki entry?
"Wiktionary is a multilingual free dictionary, being written
collaboratively on this website by people from around the world. Entries
may be edited by anyone!"
Tis the same reason why you have to be careful when reading or
referencing entries at wikipedia.com. ANYONE can add those entries.
They don't have to be an authority on anything.
Because I don't have an OED and they provide on online for free, I
cannot check the etymology of this word. From various lookups elsewhere
in real dictionaries, it appears "programer" is the Spanish form that
infiltrated into the English language, as in "programador" only having a
single "m". Since English is an adaptive language that borrows from
other languages to add words or phrases, I'll grant you this one as a
deviant, er, variant form.
>> g's other adage: do as I say, not as I do.
>
> do not judge others by your misconceptions.
g continues practicing his other adage.
newsgroup using the FollowUp-To header were thwarted by using the
original newsgroup(s) in my reply.
Original newsgroup: mozilla.support.firefox
Attempted redirect: mozilla.general
"g" wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> g wrote:
>>
>>> best thing, learn to spell.;)
>>
>> From g's first post:
>>
>> Wrong: "in it's list"
>> Correct: "in its list"
>> "It's" is a contraction of "it is".
>
>>
>> Wrong: "in it's list"
>> Correct: "in its list"
>> "It's" is a contraction of "it is".
>
> know of what you write before you consider such.
> my usage was meant as possessive, not as contraction.
> i am 'old school' and in some cases, still follow
> teachings from that time.
"its" *is* the possessive form of "it".
> my usage was meant as possessive, not as contraction.
> i am 'old school' and in some cases, still follow
> teachings from that time.
"it's" is a contraction of "it is" or "it has".
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/its
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/american-english/it-s
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/it%27s?region=us&q=it%27s
or
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/it%27s?region=us)
Old school wrong is still new school wrong. Yoos waz taut rong. It must
also be old school not to capitalize the first letter of the first word
in a sentence. Grammar must also not be innate to your "old school".
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/it%27s
Initial usage: circa 1555
Wow, now that's r-e-a-l-l-y old school. How much does that elixir cost?
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=its
OED doesn't have a free online service (very handy for word etymology
but costs $295 to subscribe); however, the above site uses it for
reference. They cite from OED that "it's" was used as the possessive
form up until the early part of the 19th century. So you're approaching
200 years of age now?
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=its
>> Wrong: "Programers"
>> Correct: "Programmers"
>> There are two "m" characters.
>
Um, you do realize that articles in wikis are written by anyone that
wants to register to post there. They do NOT go through the rigorous
examination and deliberation involved in composing dictionaries.
What dictionaries have been published by the editors of this wiki entry?
"Wiktionary is a multilingual free dictionary, being written
collaboratively on this website by people from around the world. Entries
may be edited by anyone!"
Tis the same reason why you have to be careful when reading or
referencing entries at wikipedia.com. ANYONE can add those entries.
They don't have to be an authority on anything.
Because I don't have an OED and they provide on online for free, I
cannot check the etymology of this word. From various lookups elsewhere
in real dictionaries, it appears "programer" is the Spanish form that
infiltrated into the English language, as in "programador" only having a
single "m". Since English is an adaptive language that borrows from
other languages to add words or phrases, I'll grant you this one as a
deviant, er, variant form.
>> g's other adage: do as I say, not as I do.
>
> do not judge others by your misconceptions.
Chris Ilias
Dec 4, 2012, 5:06:46 PM12/4/12
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On 12-12-04 4:16 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> NOTE: g's *trollish* attempt to redirect replies into a different
> newsgroup using the FollowUp-To header were thwarted by using the
> original newsgroup(s) in my reply.
>
> Original newsgroup: mozilla.support.firefox
> Attempted redirect: mozilla.general
He's actually just following the rules. ;)
> NOTE: g's *trollish* attempt to redirect replies into a different
> newsgroup using the FollowUp-To header were thwarted by using the
> original newsgroup(s) in my reply.
>
> Original newsgroup: mozilla.support.firefox
> Attempted redirect: mozilla.general
On <http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html>, it says:
"Off-topic discussion not taken to private email, mozilla.general, or
any place where it is not considered off-topic, by someone who knows
they should be taking it elsewhere, is eligible for removal from the
news server."
So g did the right thing; he's not trolling. :) Please take this
discussion to mozilla.general, thanks.
VanguardLH
Dec 4, 2012, 6:37:28 PM12/4/12
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about spelling.
The Wanderer
Dec 4, 2012, 11:46:13 PM12/4/12
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that regard.
I concur: this has become offtopic for the group, much less the thread.
I don't intend to belabor the point, however.
--
The Wanderer
Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any
side of it.
Every time you let somebody set a limit they start moving it.
- LiveJournal user antonia_tiger
VanguardLH
Dec 5, 2012, 4:37:56 AM12/5/12
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that you have changed the newsgroups. You don't attempt to push
respondents to somewhere else without informing them about it. My
newsreader lets me alert me when someone uses the FollowUp-To header.
Not many do so they wouldn't know about the change -- and this is why
trolls and malcontents redirect discussions to elsewhere.
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> On 12/04/2012 06:37 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> "Chris Ilias" wrote:
>>
>>> On 12-12-04 4:16 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>>> NOTE: g's *trollish* attempt to redirect replies into a different
>>>> newsgroup using the FollowUp-To header were thwarted by using the
>>>> original newsgroup(s) in my reply.
>>>>
>>>> Original newsgroup: mozilla.support.firefox
>>>> Attempted redirect: mozilla.general
>>>
>>> He's actually just following the rules. ;)
>>>
>>> On <http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html>, it says:
>>> "Off-topic discussion not taken to private email, mozilla.general, or any
>>> place where it is not considered off-topic, by someone who knows they
>>> should be taking it elsewhere, is eligible for removal from the news
>>> server."
>>>
>>> So g did the right thing; he's not trolling. :) Please take this discussion
>>> to mozilla.general, thanks.
>>
>> Whoosh! Right over your head that the side-thread is still talking about
>> spelling.
>
> But it's no longer about spellchecking, much less about help with Firefox in
> that regard.
>
> I concur: this has become offtopic for the group, much less the thread.
>
> I don't intend to belabor the point, however.
I forgot to mention that it is consider proper netiquette to add a note
> On 12/04/2012 06:37 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> "Chris Ilias" wrote:
>>
>>> On 12-12-04 4:16 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>>> NOTE: g's *trollish* attempt to redirect replies into a different
>>>> newsgroup using the FollowUp-To header were thwarted by using the
>>>> original newsgroup(s) in my reply.
>>>>
>>>> Original newsgroup: mozilla.support.firefox
>>>> Attempted redirect: mozilla.general
>>>
>>> He's actually just following the rules. ;)
>>>
>>> On <http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html>, it says:
>>> "Off-topic discussion not taken to private email, mozilla.general, or any
>>> place where it is not considered off-topic, by someone who knows they
>>> should be taking it elsewhere, is eligible for removal from the news
>>> server."
>>>
>>> So g did the right thing; he's not trolling. :) Please take this discussion
>>> to mozilla.general, thanks.
>>
>> Whoosh! Right over your head that the side-thread is still talking about
>> spelling.
>
> But it's no longer about spellchecking, much less about help with Firefox in
> that regard.
>
> I concur: this has become offtopic for the group, much less the thread.
>
> I don't intend to belabor the point, however.
that you have changed the newsgroups. You don't attempt to push
respondents to somewhere else without informing them about it. My
newsreader lets me alert me when someone uses the FollowUp-To header.
Not many do so they wouldn't know about the change -- and this is why
trolls and malcontents redirect discussions to elsewhere.
Desiree
Dec 9, 2012, 4:31:52 AM12/9/12
to Chris Ilias
Spell checker is fine on XP Pro. That's where I have tweaked. Spell
Checker (along with about 50% of my programs) does NOT work correctly on
Windows 8. I have done very little tweaking at this point on Fx on Win8.
On XP Pro, Spell Checker will flag a misspelled word that is typed in
all capital letters. It won't do that on Win 8.
Checker (along with about 50% of my programs) does NOT work correctly on
Windows 8. I have done very little tweaking at this point on Fx on Win8.
On XP Pro, Spell Checker will flag a misspelled word that is typed in
all capital letters. It won't do that on Win 8.
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