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cle...@dwf.com

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Mar 4, 2007, 2:29:16 AM3/4/07
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This is Firefox 1.5.0.9-2 from the Fedora6 RPM.

When I print a page that I am viewing with Firefox, it (firefox) tries
to put the URL of the page at the top-right of the printed page. Unfortunately
with my HP printer this URL is in never-never land, and only the bottom
of it prints, and I cant read it at all.

There MUST be a way to reformat the printed page to move this
information down a bit (say 1/10 inch) so I can actuall see it.

Ditto the info put at the bottom-right of the page, moving it up 1/10 inch.

Can someone point me to info on how to do this.
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dillinger

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Mar 4, 2007, 2:37:02 AM3/4/07
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You can set the margins at File > Page Setup.

Michel

cle...@dwf.com

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Mar 4, 2007, 5:49:55 PM3/4/07
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No.
Setting the margins affects the material printed from the WEB page,
but NOT the positioning of the URL/Date/Number of pages info that Firefox
puts on the page.
I really needs some way to reach in and tweek the the positioning of this
stuff.
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Reg Clemens

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Mar 4, 2007, 5:47:28 PM3/4/07
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No.
Setting the margins affects the material printed from the WEB page,
but NOT the positioning of the URL/Date/Number of pages info.

Alex K.

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Mar 5, 2007, 3:47:28 AM3/5/07
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From what you describe, the entire page is shifted up on the paper.

Does this occur *only* when printing from FF?

If you print a test page, from the printer setup utility in FC6, does it
show this apparent shift?

Have you tried printing from another browser app to see if it does the
same thing?

It almost sounds like either a paper feed issue with the printer or a
driver issue.

I offer these possibilities, as a quick look here does not reveal any
settings that would seem to effect what you are seeing:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Print..2A

The only one that appears even *remotely* close, does not seem to do
what you need. It *appears* to only effect the margin setting, which
you said did not effect the issue:

print.print_edge_(position) Integer Determines the distance from the
(position) edge of the page to measure the margin. Default value is 0.

However, it may be worth it to try playing with that setting. Enter
about:config in the URL bar. In the Filter box, just above the list of
preferences, enter print.

Look for the entry: print.print_edge_top

Double click on that entry and enter a new value. What's a good value?
Good question, since they don't specify what the units are.

If we go by what they describe for print.print_extra_margin, then a
value of 90 would produce a shift of 1/8 inch.

I'm not sure if a restart of FF is necessary for this to take effect or
not, so I would restart it after each change, just to make sure.

If you find that it does help, then the preference for the bottom would
be: print.print_edge_bottom

All I can say is that it can't hurt to try it.

If you find that it does nothing, or horribly messes up, you can reset
the preferences to their default values by right clicking on each
preference and selecting Reset.

Please let us know how it goes. Perhaps later, when I'm on my FC6 box,
I can test these preferences, as well.

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Alex K.

squaredancer

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Mar 5, 2007, 5:48:42 AM3/5/07
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On 04/03/2007 23:47, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused Reg Clemens to
generate the following:? :

>> cle...@dwf.com wrote:
>>
>>> This is Firefox 1.5.0.9-2 from the Fedora6 RPM.
>>>
>>> When I print a page that I am viewing with Firefox, it (firefox) tries
>>> to put the URL of the page at the top-right of the printed page. Unfortunately
>>> with my HP printer this URL is in never-never land, and only the bottom
>>> of it prints, and I cant read it at all.
>>>
>>>
<<snipped>>

>>
> No.
> Setting the margins affects the material printed from the WEB page,
> but NOT the positioning of the URL/Date/Number of pages info.
> I really needs some way to reach in and tweek the the positioning of this stuff.
>

I tried all possible settings in both my HP6L driver and the View Print
of FF, and the "headlines" with URL etc are always printed about 3/8 "
below the paper border (bottom of fonts). Maybe you could look for an
updated driver??
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22%22HP%20printer%20drivers%22%22

There are plenty of sites shown there, for you to choose from!

reg (the older one ;-) )

Alex K.

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Mar 5, 2007, 4:17:17 PM3/5/07
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Hi Reg,

I had posted earlier, while I was on my WinXP box. I am now on my FC6
box, and have discovered something.

I seriously "mis-remembered" how pages printed on my setup. I could
have sworn that they showed the headers & footers on my HP LJ4.
However, after testing, I have found that they do not. I did not see
them at all.

What I found was that there is a setting through the printer driver that
effects where on the page it will begin printing.

To access this, in FF, select File >> Print.

Next to the name of the printer is a button labeled Properties. Click
on that button.

That opens a window titled Printer Properties.

The bottom section of that window is labeled "Gap from edge of paper to
Margin". It contains entries for Top, Bottom, Left, and Right.

On my system, all four values were set to 0.04 by default. That puts
the margins outside of the printable area of the printer.

Making an assumption (yeah, I know), I changed all four values to 0.4
and then printed the google home page.

Both the headers & footers now appear correctly when printed.

My next step will be to further play with these values, to determine the
correct value for *my* printer. Your settings may be different.

I also tested by closing FF and restarting it, to make sure that those
values would survive a restart, and they do.

OK, I just checked the prefs in about:config and now I see the following
entries:
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_edge_bottom 40
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_edge_left 40
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_edge_right 40
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_edge_top 40

I also see the following:
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_margin_bottom 0.5
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_margin_left 0.5
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_margin_right 0.5
print.printer_CUPS/Laser.print_margin_top 0.5

So, what I'm deducing from this, is that the first set of prefs is
actually defining the printable area. In other words, the physical
limitation of your printer, how far from the edge of the paper that the
printer is capable of printing. The value of the pref appears to be
measured in 1/100 of an inch.

The second set is the margin setting that you set up through Page Setup.
As you observed, changing the margin settings did not effect the
headers & footers, but rather the actual page content. The value of
this pref appears to be measured in inches.

Why the defaults are so far off, I don't know. I haven't investigated
far enough yet to determine if this is really a FF bug or a driver bug.
Logically, I'm leaning toward a driver bug, as FF *should* be pulling
the printer info from there, but I can't confirm anything one way or
another at this point.

Hope this helps. Let us know how it works.

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Alex K.

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