Concerns about NeMo Articles

[Rajesh Ranjan]

Hi

I would like to address to the persons here who works with the NeMo project that there is a great need of overhauling of articles in localized language. I went through some articles and I am sad to say that almost half of the articles are directly c-n-p of the result provided by Google translate.


I would like to urge those people to maintain at least minimum quality before publishing it. Just because you have to show the world, Please don't make our language disgusting on the web.


Here, I would like to request the NeMo project to adopt little strict policy while publishing any article. At least it should pass through one editor or proofreader or NeMo lang project should have one editorial board per language. The approach might be different but something should be done to stop any irresponsible behaviour immediately.


Week before Dwaraka mailed me to know about the best documentation process that are being adopted in open source world. So to answer him properly, I started watching NeMo articles and I came to this conclusion.


regards,
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Rajesh Ranjan

[Shahid Farooqui]

Dear All,

I do agreed with Mr. Rajesh all about his concern.

This is the time when we should comeup with some moderation/review process.

@Rajesh: Do you want to suggest some way in order deal with this issue?

Thanks & Regards

Shahid

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[Sayak Sarkar]

Hey Rajesh,

Thanks for bringing this up. We have been looking for people who can help
us with the proofreading of the hindi articles on NeMo for quite some time
now.

It would be great if you could help us with the same.

Regards,
Saysk

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[Dwaraka Nath]

Hello Rajesh ji,

Thanks for your honest feedback. 

This is a problem we've been trying to fight for a very long time now. To ensure quality of articles. The problem with this type of articles is, correct me if I'm wrong, there is no 'string-to-string' translation as in general L10N process.

You've got to read through the article, make out the essence of it and put it in a way that you can deliver it better for your locale and language. 

As such there are no proof-reading or strong L10N teams to work on correction mechanism. That still needs to be worked on. 

If someone has an idea to put forth, we'll be happy to talk over in the mailing list or IRC.

Thanks,
Dwaraka

[Rajesh Ranjan]

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Hi,
Sorry for replying late.

Dwarka, you are perfectly right and I am also thinking particularly the articles what NeMo targets should not be translated word by word. Word to word translation generally restricts the flow of the language much particularly in the documentation and news article.

Thanks Shahid for understanding my real concern. What I wanted to tell that there should be some reviewer in between that means one article should be published by passing through more than one person who writes or translates. One person should work for vetting for one article before it is being published.

Sayak, there might be some problem in writing the mail. Sayak, the concern, I shared here, cannot be just assumed for one language Hindi...because I can understand Hindi so it is Hindi here. But the problem can be present in any xyz language if the process to publish article is not bona-fide. So we need to correct the process.

regards,
Rajesh

[ankit gadgil]

A very good topic taken up here, lets meet on irc for a COMPLETE DISCUSSION
about this. Any thoughts Rajesh Ji.

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Ankit Gadgil.

[Rajesh Ranjan]

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> A very good topic taken up here, lets meet on irc for a COMPLETE DISCUSSION
> about this. Any thoughts Rajesh Ji.
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Thanks Ankit!

I have created one page: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/nemo-articles-process-discussion

You can share your ideas there how we can improve it.

I request NeMo Core Team to decide date/time.

I can see there is already a approval stage for English articles...similar to this approach should be adopted in publishing in our local languages.

[Dwaraka Nath]

Hey all,

Very sorry for the late reply. I'm guessing its time for us to meetup again to discuss on how we can progress - a general discussion. 

I've created a meeting doodle[1] and I'm using the same etherpad that was created earlier by Rajesh ji and Ankit for agenda.[2] Update the pad as and when you feel.

Thanks,
Dwaraka

[1] - http://www.doodle.com/mtumdhdrkt6k3vsx

[2] - https://etherpad.mozilla.org/nemo-articles-process-discussion