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Rubén Martín
May 27, 2012, 5:17:53 PM5/27/12
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Hello,
One of the main topics that is being repeated between some contributors
is that we have to keep our influence on the web, on the market and on
the net and we all share some concerns about how.
This year the priority is the Kilimanjaro event: Desktop, Mobile,
Identity, Webapps/Marketplace, B2G and Dev Tools, and we all know that
we should focus on that, but at the same time we see that we arriving
late to some of them and we are losing our influence as time goes by. In
the past we were the ones bringing choice, now we are (for most people)
just another browser on the market.
I don't want to be just pessimistic here, so for that reason I think we
have to learn how to communicate these goals to all the community and
get the resources focused on one thing at a time, be all on the same
page, but also expand how scope, visibility and resources to new areas
tied to our values.
Browser wars are mostly over and we are facing new challenges, this is
not about beating IE monopoly anymore, is more complex, it's about
privacy, about user control, about digital rights, about avoiding having
a net controlled by a few companies and governments interests.
So for that reason I want to open discussion here and see how everybody
is working on expanding mozilla's scope, and particularly how to
communicate it to contributors, since most of them have being working
historically just on "Get Firefox, use Firefox" and expanding the scope
is something new for them/us.
Regards.
--
Rubén Martín [Nukeador]
Mozilla Reps Council Member
http://www.mozilla-hispano.org
http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano
http://facebook.com/mozillahispano
One of the main topics that is being repeated between some contributors
is that we have to keep our influence on the web, on the market and on
the net and we all share some concerns about how.
This year the priority is the Kilimanjaro event: Desktop, Mobile,
Identity, Webapps/Marketplace, B2G and Dev Tools, and we all know that
we should focus on that, but at the same time we see that we arriving
late to some of them and we are losing our influence as time goes by. In
the past we were the ones bringing choice, now we are (for most people)
just another browser on the market.
I don't want to be just pessimistic here, so for that reason I think we
have to learn how to communicate these goals to all the community and
get the resources focused on one thing at a time, be all on the same
page, but also expand how scope, visibility and resources to new areas
tied to our values.
Browser wars are mostly over and we are facing new challenges, this is
not about beating IE monopoly anymore, is more complex, it's about
privacy, about user control, about digital rights, about avoiding having
a net controlled by a few companies and governments interests.
So for that reason I want to open discussion here and see how everybody
is working on expanding mozilla's scope, and particularly how to
communicate it to contributors, since most of them have being working
historically just on "Get Firefox, use Firefox" and expanding the scope
is something new for them/us.
Regards.
--
Rubén Martín [Nukeador]
Mozilla Reps Council Member
http://www.mozilla-hispano.org
http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano
http://facebook.com/mozillahispano
Baptiste DENAEYER
May 29, 2012, 7:44:24 AM5/29/12
to Rubén Martín, gover...@lists.mozilla.org
Hi Rubén,
Glad to hear from you. I totaly approve your message. It's been a while
since I've sent my "Call for Openness, Neutrality and Freedom". I think
that Mozilla have a big role to play in that part. More than developping
tools in order to open the web, Mozilla should be the headline to the
WEB3.0. A web where social networked are usefull to a ethical purpose.
I've been working on this lately. I begin to make a network in order to
think about how we could put Internet in UNESCO world Heritage. I still
wait an answer from Mitchell about that.
Since discussions are really confused right now, maybe you (and other
contributors) would like to be part of discussions. I'll get back to people
who expressed there interest in this project as soon as we have a project
well expressed.
Great to see that people do care about how to take actions and put Mozilla
into new way of influencing the web !
Best regards,
Baptiste
2012/5/27 Rubén Martín <nuke...@mozilla-hispano.org>
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>
Glad to hear from you. I totaly approve your message. It's been a while
since I've sent my "Call for Openness, Neutrality and Freedom". I think
that Mozilla have a big role to play in that part. More than developping
tools in order to open the web, Mozilla should be the headline to the
WEB3.0. A web where social networked are usefull to a ethical purpose.
I've been working on this lately. I begin to make a network in order to
think about how we could put Internet in UNESCO world Heritage. I still
wait an answer from Mitchell about that.
Since discussions are really confused right now, maybe you (and other
contributors) would like to be part of discussions. I'll get back to people
who expressed there interest in this project as soon as we have a project
well expressed.
Great to see that people do care about how to take actions and put Mozilla
into new way of influencing the web !
Best regards,
Baptiste
2012/5/27 Rubén Martín <nuke...@mozilla-hispano.org>
> governance mailing list
> gover...@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
>
>
Nukeador
May 30, 2012, 4:43:47 AM5/30/12
to Baptiste DENAEYER, gover...@lists.mozilla.org
2012/5/29 Baptiste DENAEYER <b.den...@googlemail.com>
> Hi Rubén,
>
> Glad to hear from you. I totaly approve your message. It's been a while
> since I've sent my "Call for Openness, Neutrality and Freedom". I think
> that Mozilla have a big role to play in that part. More than developping
> tools in order to open the web, Mozilla should be the headline to the
> WEB3.0. A web where social networked are usefull to a ethical purpose.
>
> I've been working on this lately. I begin to make a network in order to
> think about how we could put Internet in UNESCO world Heritage. I still
> wait an answer from Mitchell about that.
>
> Since discussions are really confused right now, maybe you (and other
> contributors) would like to be part of discussions. I'll get back to people
> who expressed there interest in this project as soon as we have a project
> well expressed.
>
Great.
For the record, there is a mailing list for discussing digital rights that
was created time ago but it was never used:
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-digital-freedom
Maybe is a good time to start moving there :D
Regards.
--
Rubén Martín (Nukeador)
Mozilla Reps Council member
http://mozilla-hispano.org
http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano
http://facebook.com/mozillahispano
> Hi Rubén,
>
> Glad to hear from you. I totaly approve your message. It's been a while
> since I've sent my "Call for Openness, Neutrality and Freedom". I think
> that Mozilla have a big role to play in that part. More than developping
> tools in order to open the web, Mozilla should be the headline to the
> WEB3.0. A web where social networked are usefull to a ethical purpose.
>
> I've been working on this lately. I begin to make a network in order to
> think about how we could put Internet in UNESCO world Heritage. I still
> wait an answer from Mitchell about that.
>
> Since discussions are really confused right now, maybe you (and other
> contributors) would like to be part of discussions. I'll get back to people
> who expressed there interest in this project as soon as we have a project
> well expressed.
>
For the record, there is a mailing list for discussing digital rights that
was created time ago but it was never used:
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/community-digital-freedom
Maybe is a good time to start moving there :D
Regards.
--
Rubén Martín (Nukeador)
Mozilla Reps Council member
http://mozilla-hispano.org
http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano
http://facebook.com/mozillahispano
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