Firefox losing market share

[WaltS48]

According to this article on Bleeping Computer Microsoft Edge grew 1300%, overtaking Firefox.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-microsoft-edge-grew-1-300-percent-this-year-overtaking-firefox/

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[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Is this down to Firefox repeatedly annoying the hell out of their
user-base with changes nobody had expected nor wanted? I see FF and
Safari (which is missing from that chart) were slugging it out for
months before FF dipped and Safari hopped in September.
I wonder what the the remaining 7.4% uses. Brave? Vivaldi? IE?
Seamonkey!

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[WaltS48]

On 4/6/21 12:03 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> WaltS48 wrote:
>> According to this article on Bleeping Computer Microsoft Edge grew
>> 1300%, overtaking Firefox.
>>
>> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-microsoft-edge-grew-1-300-percent-this-year-overtaking-firefox/
>>
>>
>>
>

> Is this down to Firefox repeatedly annoying the hell out of their
> user-base with changes nobody had expected nor wanted?  I see FF and
> Safari (which is missing from that chart)  were slugging it out for
> months before FF dipped and Safari hopped in September.
> I wonder what the the remaining 7.4% uses.  Brave?  Vivaldi?  IE?
> Seamonkey!
>

Wells I say.

If the users turned off telemetry so Mozilla doesn't know what the users
are using in the browser.

Don't complain.

Firefox 89 will be an interesting release.

[Andy Burns]

WaltS48 wrote:

> Firefox 89 will be an interesting release.

Have UI refreshes typically been received well by users? Not IME,
they're usually followed by a flurry of "what do I have to do to make it
the same as it used to be?" questions ...

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Proton will fix everything I am sure :)

WaltS48:

> If the users turned off telemetry so Mozilla doesn't know what the users
are using in the browser.

> Don't complain.

If you rely mostly on telemetry you are more than halfway there to loose touch
with your user base and that is one of the problems. And if you use telemetry
to justify ripping out parts power users rely on you are going even further,

FRG

[WaltS48]

I see.

Power users are the minority. No?

[😉 Good Guy 😉]

On 06/04/2021 18:32, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/6/21 12:55 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Firefox 89 will be an interesting release.

Have UI refreshes typically been received well by users?  Not IME, they're usually followed by a flurry of "what do I have to do to make it the same as it used to be?" questions ...

Proton will fix everything I am sure :)

WaltS48:

If the users turned off telemetry so Mozilla doesn't know what the users

are using in the browser.

Don't complain.

If you rely mostly on telemetry you are more than halfway there to loose touch with your user base and that is one of the problems. And if you use telemetry to justify ripping out parts power users rely on you are going even further,

FRG

I see.

Power users are the minority. No?

Who are these power users?  what exactly do they do with the browser or email client?  There is so much you can do in a browser or email client.

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[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/6/21 12:55 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>>
>>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Firefox 89 will be an interesting release.
>>>
>>> Have UI refreshes typically been received well by users?  Not IME, they're
>>> usually followed by a flurry of "what do I have to do to make it the same
>>> as it used to be?" questions ...
>>>
>>
>> Proton will fix everything I am sure :)
>>
>> WaltS48:
>>
>>> If the users turned off telemetry so Mozilla doesn't know what the users
>> are using in the browser.
>>
>>> Don't complain.
>>
>> If you rely mostly on telemetry you are more than halfway there to loose
>> touch with your user base and that is one of the problems. And if you use
>> telemetry to justify ripping out parts power users rely on you are going
>> even further,
>>
>> FRG
>>
> I see.
>
> Power users are the minority. No?
>

They are but there are also the ones usually asked what software to install or
fix the problems. So loose them and you loose much more. Just my 2 cents. ymmv

FRG

[Frosted Flake]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/6/21 12:03 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>> According to this article on Bleeping Computer Microsoft Edge grew
>>> 1300%, overtaking Firefox.
>>>
>>> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-microsoft-edge-grew-1-300-percent-this-year-overtaking-firefox/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Is this down to Firefox repeatedly annoying the hell out of their
>> user-base with changes nobody had expected nor wanted?  I see FF and
>> Safari (which is missing from that chart)  were slugging it out for
>> months before FF dipped and Safari hopped in September.
>> I wonder what the the remaining 7.4% uses.  Brave?  Vivaldi?  IE?
>> Seamonkey!
>>
> Wells I say.
>
> If the users turned off telemetry so Mozilla doesn't know what the users
> are using in the browser.
>
> Don't complain.
>
> Firefox 89 will be an interesting release.
>

The last one?

What a shame

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[Sailfish]

My bloviated meandering follows what Frank-Rainer Grahl graced us with
on 4/6/2021 11:50 AM:

As well as the evangelists and zealots who are the most needed group to
get others to use the product. Once a product looses them, their growth
subsides and their market share dwindles.

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