Re: Look back, it's never late

[George Roter]

Dear All,

I have started a thread on Discourse with my reaction to this email. I hope
you'll join me in a conversation there:
https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/building-the-mozilla-we-want-my-response-to-the-recent-anonymous-emails/2264

Best,
George

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Dicky Moe <dick...@yandex.com> wrote:

> Caution: Read this mail if you think the recent developments within
> Mozilla doesn't feel right and in a way is jeopardizing the mission. If you
> are not at all feeling anything, then this is not the mail for you. And
> this mail should not be considered as some personal revenge or anything,
> but it's time we look back and correct ourselves.
>
>
> 1 . In recent months we have seen lots of passionate staffs and mozillians
> leaving the mission, Mozilla has never commented on this trend. Goodbye
> message from the ones who left reveal the unhappy events that happened with
> them and also appears to hide some messages from public.
>
> Doesn't the mozillians who work almost similar to the staffs in driving
> the mission want to know and has the right to know..?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2. Sponsored tiles. Though the passionate mission supporters didn’t bring
> a positive response to the idea from the start, still Mozilla proceeded
> with it using user's browsing history, bookmark and location.
>
> Seriously, has someone lost mind introducing stuffs like this? Have we
> become revenue based rather than mission drivers? We request the concerned
> team to look why we are moving away from the mission. Using third party
> services compromising privacy, and mission has become a common hobby for us.
> Just one question if we are a mission shouldn't we use duckduckgo or
> similar service that doesn't track users as default search partner instead
> of ones that track.
>
> Revenue generations is accepted but not by jeopardizing the mission we
> promised to follow.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 3. Mozilla has always been a volunteer depended organization, and the
> efforts to recognize the volunteers are being worked on all time, that is
> fine and the efforts are appreciable but the key flaw in this system is
> with recognizing new contributors.
>
> The recognition provided to new contributors don’t reach them because
> their works reach the project which they work on proxied by some existing
> contributors. ( a few explicitly mention and report the wrong recognition,
> but a few do consider it as advantage.)
>
> It also seems like the recognition plan didn’t include or even thought
> about the fact recognition differs for each individual is different.
>
> Disbanding Community Building Team (CBT) has made a big hole in volunteer
> participation. Now we have participation team, which wholly consists of
> staffs and contractors and handpicked volunteers who gets to make key
> decisions, whatever.
>
> This is not all good. Are we moving from closed to being super closed? We
> all wanted to bring back CBT.
>
>
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>
> 4. We strongly urge Mozilla Reps leadership to look into issues like this
> because you guys get hate day by day. A fine example is your election. Less
> than 50% polled for election, we guess Mozilla Reps leadership has to
> evaluate themselves. We dare Mozilla Reps leadership to take an open poll
> about your programme and put the results public and then talk. This is for
> all those who have been boasting and making dictatorial decision based on
> unnecessary power given to the Reps leadership. These leadership is
> selected by less than half of the reps community (i.e. less than 50% polled
> for elections) and they take all the community decisions. Who even gave
> unlimited powers to some 9 people who claim themselves Council. If you mess
> with them, then you are done and most of your requests get rejected. And
> this is Mozilla Reps leadership for you.
>
> And Please recognize the contributors. Its like a bunch of volunteers is
> using some others contributions and getting credit in their name. Most of
> the hardworking mozillians are not getting recognized. Many staffs and
> volunteers are playing petty politics. Yeah, well, some crude people like
> this are ending up as the staffs at Mozilla.
>
> We do find a few meetings ( Online and offline ) being held by the reps
> council, but so far no outcomes other than the a few pics of food,
> beverage, airports from the attendees along with a worthless blog report
> with a list of todo works were seen.?
>
> All concerned persons ask yourself whether you have completed or did any
> tasks that you informed to do in previous meetings.
>
>
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>
> This is a small section about Indian Community and some general issues
> that concern everyone. This has been added in response to the couple of
> mails and requests from some of the Indian volunteers.
>
> We were quite sad that the allegations were just cornered to Gauthamraj
> alone by Watson an anonymous mail man just like us who have shooted a mail
> to the community mailing list last week. Actually there is a bigger
> dictatorial group working within the Mozilla India community.
>
> This is a small group who always wanted control everything.
>
> 1. Vineel - who himself calls head of community, doesn't come out of the
> position after announcing himself about the resignation, proxy other’s work
> get credits so on….
>
> Has there been any community who have had lead for than four or five
> years. Think. Every one respects all the stuff Vineel has done so far and
> he will do but this monopoly and not sticking to your own voice isn’t a
> great thing. Can someone explain who assigned this the leadership task?
>
> 2. Soumya Deb - Has a group of good mentees under who are good in
> development. They do the work, and Mr. Deb claims the credits and boss
> around in media. This is a similar trait shown by most people we mentioned
> above and below. Someone does the work boasts to staffs and social media as
> theirs. Job well done.
>
> We wonder how you got invited to MozFest last year, like this only? Or
> care to explain. Because we haven't seen a single Webmaker activity by you
> and most deserved ones were left here without invitation.
>
> @council are you finished making the two line reason why those mozillan’s
> were selected for Mozfest..?
>
> 3. Galaxy - We still don't know what this guy is doing in the Mozilla
> community. But keeps getting invited everywhere and travel around the
> world. People say he is the hotel booking and swag guy, FSA Executive board
> member and even engagement (what a joke). Woah, we think that's a lot work
> and that's what the Mozilla’s primary concern hotel booking and swag.
>
>
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>
> In Mozilla India if you happen to be a girl and seem to have a good
> relation with any of guys dictating the Community you automatically seem to
> receive the recognition for doing nothing. The Womoz program catalyzes this
> process. ( Reverse hasn’t worked so far )
>
> Those related with Indian community will know what is a Reps Budget is. If
> you want budget for any of the project you have planned plan with any of
> these dictators in mind, file the budget execute the project and be ready
> to hand over the works and recognition to their name. If not try to forget
> about the project or let it stay on paper.
>
> If you don't believe us just go through the budgets filed by these guys,
> and analyse the ease and speed at which these guys gets budget approved
> without any questions or anything. We still wonder why Mozilla Community
> works like this favoring few people and even paying funds to these guys in
> a dark. From what we have heard about the Mozilla Space in Bangalore is
> spending tons of money and wasting and not spending proper funds community
> who badly need it. Many mozillians and Reps have suffered enough hardships
> by getting budget rejected and these guys just screw all with one budget
> comment “Your budget is rejected”. Shame on you guys its really shame that
> you guys are enjoying the years of hardships by many hardcore Mozillians.
>
> Another recent bullshit was the mentor selection. We don’t want to reveal
> their names, lets have a look at incident without names and we are sure
> guessing names won’t be a hard work for any one.
>
> a couple of the newly selected mentors were not known to work with any
> Mozilla projects after the Summit 2013, have happened to fulfill the
> requirements to be a reps mentor. Still after the selection they are
> nowhere to be seen.
>
>
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>
> THE FIREFOX OS
>
> And again we ask why did Firefox OS fail in India and all over the world.
> This is another place where only a small group of people were notified
> about all the plannings and only small group went around and did all the
> activities. Wasting money is one of the prime qualities of Mozilla India
> leadership. Ahh, not to mention the staffs are just same. We saw that the
> Firefox OS research was done Rajasthan( state in india ) and the best part
> is the phone wasn’t released there.
>
> Mozillians didn't even know there was a research going on there. Good job
> people. We are requesting to show us the outcomes of big events like
> MozCamp India beta 2014, Mozilla Task Force Meetup 2015 where 10000s of
> dollars were spent. If you have nothing to say about that then you have no
> right on crossing the fellow Reps and rejecting the budget when they were
> having really put 100% hardship over an event.
>
> We believe that some of the Mozilla employees are also favoring this
> monopoly leadership in India or is it that these self assigned leaders
> brainwashing these employees. Nevertheless the Mozilla leadership is surely
> unaware of all the ground zero happenings. This is not just a problem in
> India, but mostly in Asian regions the one community that's so close to the
> happenings in India is Mozilla Bangladesh.
>
> We hope the concerned Mozilla employees will have a look at this seriously
> before this turns to some real madness.
>
> We wonder why is the community and organization becoming more closed.
> Major decisions proceeding without prior informing to volunteers and
> closing the issues raised with a sorry. Isn't it this a volunteer driven
> community.?
>
> We wish the community to be open. We had enough rebels and people going on
> from an organization we don't want this to continue because we still have
> faith in the mission. Hope everything works out.
>
> Regards
> Fellow Mozillian
>
>
>
> Watson Vinro, thank you for supporting against the injustices caused.
> NOTE: We are not related to Watson Vinro or the team behind Watson Vinro.
>



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