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Re: Can we remove nsIEntityConverter?
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Karl Tomlinson
May 1, 2016, 6:04:48 PM5/1/16
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Cross-posting to mozilla.dev.tech.mathml so that this is seen by
people who are interested.
Please follow-up to mozilla.dev.platform.
Henri Sivonen writes:
> We ship data tables for converting from Unicode to HTML entities.
> These tables obviously take space. (They are not optimized for space
> usage, either.) As far as I can tell, these tables are not used at all
> in Fennec. In desktop Firefox, these data tables are used only for the
> MathML View Source feature.
>
> Additionally, a subset of the tables is used by some XPCOM-based
> extensions, but those extensions seem to be obsolete or abandoned or
> don't seem to be using the feature for a very good reason.
>
> These data tables are not exposed to the Web Platform.
>
> In https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1048191 I proposed
> removing this for mobile only, but how about we just remove this
> altogether in order to make both Fennec and desktop Firefox smaller?
people who are interested.
Please follow-up to mozilla.dev.platform.
Henri Sivonen writes:
> We ship data tables for converting from Unicode to HTML entities.
> These tables obviously take space. (They are not optimized for space
> usage, either.) As far as I can tell, these tables are not used at all
> in Fennec. In desktop Firefox, these data tables are used only for the
> MathML View Source feature.
>
> Additionally, a subset of the tables is used by some XPCOM-based
> extensions, but those extensions seem to be obsolete or abandoned or
> don't seem to be using the feature for a very good reason.
>
> These data tables are not exposed to the Web Platform.
>
> In https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1048191 I proposed
> removing this for mobile only, but how about we just remove this
> altogether in order to make both Fennec and desktop Firefox smaller?
Frédéric Wang
May 2, 2016, 2:46:18 AM5/2/16
to dev-pl...@lists.mozilla.org, Mozilla Math Developers
Le 01/05/2016 02:16, smaug a écrit :
> What would source view for mathml look like if we removed
> nsIEntityConverter?
AFAIK, the only point is to replace things like "∑" with "∑"
in order to make it more readable. However, with appropriate fonts
installed I think reading "∑" is also fine.
Le 30/04/2016 12:25, Henri Sivonen a écrit :
> In desktop Firefox, these data tables are used only for the
> MathML View Source feature.
Personally, I don't really use this feature, as I find the DOM inspector
or the "MathML Copy" add-on (*) more convenient to check or copy a
MathML formula.
I guess we can move this feature from the Desktop front-end to a
separate Add-on (that could potentially work on mobile too in the
future). However, I can't speak for the users. Maybe we should write to
the Math WG mailing list in order to get more feedback.
(*) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mathml-copy/
--
Frédéric Wang
> What would source view for mathml look like if we removed
> nsIEntityConverter?
AFAIK, the only point is to replace things like "∑" with "∑"
in order to make it more readable. However, with appropriate fonts
installed I think reading "∑" is also fine.
Le 30/04/2016 12:25, Henri Sivonen a écrit :
> In desktop Firefox, these data tables are used only for the
> MathML View Source feature.
or the "MathML Copy" add-on (*) more convenient to check or copy a
MathML formula.
I guess we can move this feature from the Desktop front-end to a
separate Add-on (that could potentially work on mobile too in the
future). However, I can't speak for the users. Maybe we should write to
the Math WG mailing list in order to get more feedback.
(*) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mathml-copy/
--
Frédéric Wang
David Carlisle
May 2, 2016, 6:06:10 AM5/2/16
to dev-tec...@lists.mozilla.org
On 02/05/2016 07:45, Frédéric Wang wrote:
> Le 01/05/2016 02:16, smaug a écrit :
>> What would source view for mathml look like if we removed
>> nsIEntityConverter?
>
> AFAIK, the only point is to replace things like "∑" with "∑"
> in order to make it more readable. However, with appropriate fonts
> installed I think reading "∑" is also fine.
>
> Le 30/04/2016 12:25, Henri Sivonen a écrit :
> Le 01/05/2016 02:16, smaug a écrit :
>> What would source view for mathml look like if we removed
>> nsIEntityConverter?
>
> AFAIK, the only point is to replace things like "∑" with "∑"
> in order to make it more readable. However, with appropriate fonts
> installed I think reading "∑" is also fine.
>
> Le 30/04/2016 12:25, Henri Sivonen a écrit :
>> In desktop Firefox, these data tables are used only for the
>> MathML View Source feature.
>
>> MathML View Source feature.
>
> Personally, I don't really use this feature, as I find the DOM inspector
> or the "MathML Copy" add-on (*) more convenient to check or copy a
> MathML formula.
>
> I guess we can move this feature from the Desktop front-end to a
> separate Add-on (that could potentially work on mobile too in the
> future). However, I can't speak for the users. Maybe we should write to
> the Math WG mailing list in order to get more feedback.
>
> (*) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mathml-copy/
>
I would support not writing these things out using the named entities,
> or the "MathML Copy" add-on (*) more convenient to check or copy a
> MathML formula.
>
> I guess we can move this feature from the Desktop front-end to a
> separate Add-on (that could potentially work on mobile too in the
> future). However, I can't speak for the users. Maybe we should write to
> the Math WG mailing list in order to get more feedback.
>
> (*) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mathml-copy/
>
the fragments using ∑ etc are not well formed unless re-incorporated
into a document using a DTD which catches people out often as not.
David
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Karl,
When the email was written at Tandy Leather the email address was entered and never sent. It was erased and archived and the archive was erased. At the time I was being threatened I changed the "a" in the first word to "e"
I hope this helps you. There was also chatter on the web about a new Google Chrome but I think the guys were either messing with me cause I saw it or they were messing with each other. Neither implimented it.
When the email was written at Tandy Leather the email address was entered and never sent. It was erased and archived and the archive was erased. At the time I was being threatened I changed the "a" in the first word to "e"
I hope this helps you. There was also chatter on the web about a new Google Chrome but I think the guys were either messing with me cause I saw it or they were messing with each other. Neither implimented it.
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