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Rob Stradling

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Dec 13, 2018, 6:18:31 AM12/13/18
to dev-secur...@lists.mozilla.org, crt.sh, Kathleen Wilson
Thanks to Kathleen for suggesting/requesting this new crt.sh feature...

To facilitate compliance checking for the 3 test websites that BR 2.2
[1] requires for each root certificate, I've created this new report:

https://crt.sh/test-websites

Anything in red on this page represents either: a
misconfigured/non-compliant test website, a bug in my code, or an
interesting edge case worthy of further discussion.

Each test website is currently rechecked every 10 minutes. The code for
the checker application is available at [2].


[1] https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/CA-Browser-Forum-BR-1.5.9.pdf
"2.2. PUBLICATION OF INFORMATION
...
The CA SHALL host test Web pages that allow Application Software
Suppliers to test their software with Subscriber Certificates that chain
up to each publicly trusted Root Certificate. At a minimum, the CA SHALL
host separate Web pages using Subscriber Certificates that are (i)
valid, (ii) revoked, and (iii) expired."

[2] https://github.com/crtsh/test_websites_monitor

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Rob Stradling
Senior Research & Development Scientist
Sectigo Limited

Rob Stradling

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Dec 13, 2018, 7:30:37 AM12/13/18
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Hi Rufus. I'm not aware of any root program or CABForum requirement
that supports your interpretation.

On 13/12/2018 12:26, Rufus Buschart wrote:
> Very nice! Are you sure, that this requirement is only valid for "Root
> CAs"? I was always under the impression, that such a test web site needs
> to be hosted for every "Issuing CA that chains up to a publicly trusted
> Root CA".
>
> /Rufus
>
> What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
> ===========================================
> Rufus J.W. Buschart
> Anna-Pirson-Weg 1c
> 91052 Erlangen
> Phone: +49 (0)9131 - 530 15 85
> Mobile: +49 (0)152 - 228 94 134
> Web: http://www.buschart.de
>
>
> Am Do., 13. Dez. 2018 um 12:18 Uhr schrieb Rob Stradling
> <r...@sectigo.com <mailto:r...@sectigo.com>>:
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Dec 15, 2018, 7:34:06 AM12/15/18
to mozilla-dev-security-policy, ru...@buschart.de, cr...@googlegroups.com, Kathleen Wilson, Rob Stradling
Adding mozilla.dev.security.policy back to this thread per Rob's suggestion:

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:27 AM Rob Stradling <r...@sectigo.com> wrote:

> On 13/12/2018 19:05, Wayne Thayer wrote:
> > Thank you Rob, this is terrific!
>
> Thanks Wayne.
>
> > I would like to ask that all CAs to take a look at this report and
> > correct any issues that are found with their test websites.
>
> I just noticed that m.d.s.p was dropped from this sub-thread before you
> wrote that, so you probably didn't reach much of your target audience.
> (I would forward your message to m.d.s.p, but it's probably better if it
> comes directly from you).
>
> > The report is flagging a number of sites as "Not HTML", which means that
> > they are serving some content type other than text/html.
>
> Currently text/html and text/xml are permitted.
>
> Webpages are "usually written in HTML or a comparable markup
> language...and...Typical web pages provide hypertext that includes a
> navigation bar or a sidebar menu linking to other web pages via
> hyperlinks, often referred to as links"
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_page).
>
> Most of the "Not HTML" errors are due to the response being classified
> as text/plain, which clearly isn't a markup language and so it doesn't
> contain hyperlinks.
>
> > While I think that Rob has correctly interpreted the meaning of "test >
> website", Kathleen and I are not currently planning to categorize
> this> as a policy violation.
>
> That seems reasonable. The report only shows "Not HTML" when there are
> no other issues.
>
> > However, it would still be appreciated if CAs
> > help to clean up the report by serving HTML on their test websites.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 5:54 AM Rufus Buschart <ru...@buschart.de
> > <mailto:ru...@buschart.de>> wrote:
> >
> > Well, it seemed to be obvious to me, because there might be also a
> > problem with one of the Issuing CAs / Intermediate CAs in the chain
> > between the Root and the Subscriber Certificate. We at Siemens host
> > test web sites for every single issuing CA operated by us:
> > https://catestsite.siemens.com/
> >
> > It is always good to hear when a CA does things because they make sense,
> > not just to meet the minimum requirement.
> >
> > But if the requirement is not as strict as we understood it, that's
> > fine for me too. I rather like to err to the safe side than to have
> > a bug on MDSP list....
> >
> > The requirement is not as strict as you understood it, but it is only a
> > minimum requirement. Mozilla is most concerned with the roots we're
> > shipping, so the current requirement is satisfactory for us.
> >
> > /Rufus
> >
> > What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
> > ===========================================
> > Rufus J.W. Buschart
> > Anna-Pirson-Weg 1c
> > 91052 Erlangen
> > Phone: +49 (0)9131 - 530 15 85
> > Mobile: +49 (0)152 - 228 94 134
> > Web: http://www.buschart.de
> >
>

westm...@gmail.com

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Jan 14, 2019, 3:09:40 AM1/14/19
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This URL ( https://crt.sh/test-websites ) does not work (~5 days)

Rob Stradling

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Jan 14, 2019, 7:06:28 AM1/14/19
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On 14/01/2019 08:09, westmail24--- via dev-security-policy wrote:
> This URL ( https://crt.sh/test-websites ) does not work (~5 days)

Fixed. Thanks.

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Sectigo Limited

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